For all of Tharja's stalking and other problematic tendencies, it's still a bit disappointing that Female Robin can't S Support her, unlike how Female Corrin can do the same with Rhajat(who may or may not be a reincarnation of Tharja) in Fates.
Of course, both Awakening and Fates have the same problem: even if you could S-Support same-sex units, you'll miss out on one or more second-generation units. Just as Male Corrin/Niles costs you Female Kana and Nina, and Female Corrin and Rhajat costs you Male Kana, this pairing would cost you Male Morgan and Noire, unless the characters were somehow able to find a workaround, so to speak.
FluffyCow
Jul 18, 2025 10:39PM
^Sounds like future Fire Emblem games need magic babies for same sex couples or something
Zesc
Jul 19, 2025 2:36AM
^^ Shenanigans. Wasn't Morgan very explicitly from some alternate timeline or something, so both very popular cases of Chrome/F!Robin and Lucina/M!Robin don't clash with the established lore? If you can resolve that, IPS Cells should be a cake walk.
eromancer
Jul 19, 2025 5:10AM
So maybe this is because I played as M!Robin and married Cordelia (suck it, Chrom!), but this actually looks like F!Morgan to me (with Cordelia's hair color), not Robin. Is it just me? Do we know the artist's intent? (Granted, Robin could take on a wide array of looks, but F!Morgan definitely had that short hairstyle.)
^ In the post-game "what became of ..." for all of the characters, it was suggested that Morgan may have come from an alternate timeline because she/he never really recovered her memory of her/his mother/father. I don't know about those cases clashing with any lore; I assumed it was a convenient way to avoid writing a bunch of different dialogues for each possible other parent (though granted they'd have had a similar problem with other 2nd-generation characters since FFA and FFF let you play matchmaker with the other 1st-generation characters). Personally I disliked that little aside and ignored it, since Morgan's support conversations seemed to reveal she was remembering some things.
^ Anyway, I don't think IPS Cells would work well in a medieval setting; they'd likely just use magic like FluffyCow suggested.
Linterdiction
Jul 21, 2025 11:43AM
^^No, Morgan will take on traits of whoever you marry, they're definitely supposed to be your kid. The weirdness around them is IIRC supposed to hint at the fact that they were with Grima in the future and not the other kids.
Unless you're talking about some future game calling back to Awakening?
Zesc
Jul 21, 2025 1:51PM
^ Yeah, Morgan is very clearly Robin's offspring, but it's mentioned in passing that they come from a different timeline. Probably because Robin can also marry the second-generation units, which would open up the question of how they got back in time when their parent already went back in time before meeting Robin.
^^ I'm not sure if any of their potential siblings remember growing up together because I only ever played FE:A with a friend during sleepovers (gosh, it's been 12 years already?) but the wiki tells me Morgan only has supports with second-generation units as either parents or siblings.
Also, just plugging the Gay Awakening Mod here for all who don't want to speak in mere hypotheticals about WLW (and MLM) reproduction.
Ultraxion Jul 18, 2025 10:28PM
For all of Tharja's stalking and other problematic tendencies, it's still a bit disappointing that Female Robin can't S Support her, unlike how Female Corrin can do the same with Rhajat(who may or may not be a reincarnation of Tharja) in Fates.
Of course, both Awakening and Fates have the same problem: even if you could S-Support same-sex units, you'll miss out on one or more second-generation units. Just as Male Corrin/Niles costs you Female Kana and Nina, and Female Corrin and Rhajat costs you Male Kana, this pairing would cost you Male Morgan and Noire, unless the characters were somehow able to find a workaround, so to speak.
FluffyCow Jul 18, 2025 10:39PM
^Sounds like future Fire Emblem games need magic babies for same sex couples or something
Zesc Jul 19, 2025 2:36AM
^^ Shenanigans. Wasn't Morgan very explicitly from some alternate timeline or something, so both very popular cases of Chrome/F!Robin and Lucina/M!Robin don't clash with the established lore? If you can resolve that, IPS Cells should be a cake walk.
eromancer Jul 19, 2025 5:10AM
So maybe this is because I played as M!Robin and married Cordelia (suck it, Chrom!), but this actually looks like F!Morgan to me (with Cordelia's hair color), not Robin. Is it just me? Do we know the artist's intent? (Granted, Robin could take on a wide array of looks, but F!Morgan definitely had that short hairstyle.)
^ In the post-game "what became of ..." for all of the characters, it was suggested that Morgan may have come from an alternate timeline because she/he never really recovered her memory of her/his mother/father. I don't know about those cases clashing with any lore; I assumed it was a convenient way to avoid writing a bunch of different dialogues for each possible other parent (though granted they'd have had a similar problem with other 2nd-generation characters since FFA and FFF let you play matchmaker with the other 1st-generation characters). Personally I disliked that little aside and ignored it, since Morgan's support conversations seemed to reveal she was remembering some things.
^ Anyway, I don't think IPS Cells would work well in a medieval setting; they'd likely just use magic like FluffyCow suggested.
Linterdiction Jul 21, 2025 11:43AM
^^No, Morgan will take on traits of whoever you marry, they're definitely supposed to be your kid. The weirdness around them is IIRC supposed to hint at the fact that they were with Grima in the future and not the other kids.
Unless you're talking about some future game calling back to Awakening?
Zesc Jul 21, 2025 1:51PM
^ Yeah, Morgan is very clearly Robin's offspring, but it's mentioned in passing that they come from a different timeline. Probably because Robin can also marry the second-generation units, which would open up the question of how they got back in time when their parent already went back in time before meeting Robin.
^^ I'm not sure if any of their potential siblings remember growing up together because I only ever played FE:A with a friend during sleepovers (gosh, it's been 12 years already?) but the wiki tells me Morgan only has supports with second-generation units as either parents or siblings.
Also, just plugging the Gay Awakening Mod here for all who don't want to speak in mere hypotheticals about WLW (and MLM) reproduction.