Calling Female Hakuno as her husbando is quite interesting take ngl
FluffyCow
May 26, 2025 10:14PM
Always great to see Hakuno receiving love from one of her wives.
SeraphimofYuri
May 27, 2025 12:49AM
^^Tamamo calling the Female Master "Husband" is simply the writer's way of keeping the Male Master's script for both player avatars.
Whether this is simply due to the localization, or was a part of the original Japanese script, I do not know.
What I do know is that while it is funny, it is also probably due to laziness.
last edited at May 27, 2025 12:50AM
FluffyCow
May 27, 2025 1:03AM
^Well in at least Extella both master options have CG art that's unique to them, and from my understanding Hakuno/Hakunon have some differences in general. Then there's FGO where Morgan says husband or wife depending on your master. So I don't think Tamamo's single word choice is laziness and it's more so that she views herself as the wife, and the player as her husband regardless of gender. A character quirk of hers is how I think of it anyhow.
Elarikus
May 27, 2025 7:22AM
That's how a lot of fate works. By the very nature of who tamamo is, whoever her partner is will inherently be her "husband", no matter their gender.
Classy-Nessi
May 27, 2025 11:39AM
Rin needs to stop standing around and hug her wife Hakuno too!
Linterdiction
May 29, 2025 9:19PM
^^^^It kind of is at some level, I guess? but there's enough effort put into both games that it's not actually like that--it feels more like Nasu is intentionally evoking that kind of thing that's frequently done for the sake of the characters. Tamamo's history is basically entirely with men and she's only really fooled around with girls before, and this is addressed directly between the two characters. But she's attracted to Hakuno because she still acts "like a hot guy" in the sense of like. Boldness, resoluteness, occasionally even smoothness. It does kind of suit her like that.
Linterdiction
May 29, 2025 9:20PM
Like they definitely wanted to keep as many lines as possible. but they did also make a whole thing of it, and it is addressed. It's really different from a game like FGO where the female protag really does just feel like a tacked-on option.
FluffyCow
May 30, 2025 1:23AM
^Gudako and Gudao aren't super different in FGO, though how some characters treat the protag has differences, they do make certain unique CGs and Arts for each protag, including ones that just show their command spells (you can tell the protag command spells apart easily), along with certain scenes in the game playing out differently depending on who you're playing, which is something I wish would happen more often but they are there here and there. One of the primary fun elements of the protag differences is the Shinjuku chapter where Gudako dresses in a suit, and Gudao wears a dress. Some of these elements and characteristics are better defined in the manga adaptions as well, as some feature Gudako as the protag, and others feature Gudao. So while the protags for Extra/Extella might get a bit more, I wouldn't say Gudako is just tacked on either as there is some really fun differences.
Anyways, regardless of your opinion on FGO I think we can both at the very least agree that Fate needs more main line anime featuring their lady protagonists.
Moedred
May 30, 2025 4:19AM
I'm FGO only few servant really "notice" your gender. If I remember Fergus tells you he is not into man, but can give you a pass, Kiyohime say that she don't care you are a girl and Medusa tells you that's she "prefers that way" if you set your gender as female. And of course Morgan is calling you wife. But overall gender is purely aesthetic thing.
FluffyCow
May 30, 2025 4:53AM
^Dino Summer from what I remember has a girls night or a boys night depending on who you're playing. The island building summer when it comes to being stuck there Scath offers runes that can help Gudako repopulate the island with servants such as Tamamo. Which in theory means Gudako with some rune help could get Tamamo pregnant. There's some other dialogue bits and scenes here and there. I do wish there was more, but at least we have the manga adaptions as I mentioned. There's also the Riyo gag series where Gudako and Gudao are both uniquely defined, there's the Youtube shorts with Gudao, along with the FGO Carnival Phantasm that focuses on Gudako as the master. So there's stuff. Personally I love both Hakuno and Gudako and that's my view. Perfectly fine if anyone has a different opinion, we can simply agree to disagree.
That aside as far as adaptions go I'd love an Extra or Extella anime where Hakuno is the protag. I'd also love an FGO adaption of the Shimosa manga where Gudako is the protag, following the art style of the manga.
Mark426 May 26, 2025 10:09PM
Calling Female Hakuno as her husbando is quite interesting take ngl
FluffyCow May 26, 2025 10:14PM
Always great to see Hakuno receiving love from one of her wives.
SeraphimofYuri May 27, 2025 12:49AM
^^Tamamo calling the Female Master "Husband" is simply the writer's way of keeping the Male Master's script for both player avatars.
Whether this is simply due to the localization, or was a part of the original Japanese script, I do not know.
What I do know is that while it is funny, it is also probably due to laziness.
last edited at May 27, 2025 12:50AM
FluffyCow May 27, 2025 1:03AM
^Well in at least Extella both master options have CG art that's unique to them, and from my understanding Hakuno/Hakunon have some differences in general. Then there's FGO where Morgan says husband or wife depending on your master. So I don't think Tamamo's single word choice is laziness and it's more so that she views herself as the wife, and the player as her husband regardless of gender. A character quirk of hers is how I think of it anyhow.
Elarikus May 27, 2025 7:22AM
That's how a lot of fate works. By the very nature of who tamamo is, whoever her partner is will inherently be her "husband", no matter their gender.
Classy-Nessi May 27, 2025 11:39AM
Rin needs to stop standing around and hug her wife Hakuno too!
Linterdiction May 29, 2025 9:19PM
^^^^It kind of is at some level, I guess? but there's enough effort put into both games that it's not actually like that--it feels more like Nasu is intentionally evoking that kind of thing that's frequently done for the sake of the characters. Tamamo's history is basically entirely with men and she's only really fooled around with girls before, and this is addressed directly between the two characters. But she's attracted to Hakuno because she still acts "like a hot guy" in the sense of like. Boldness, resoluteness, occasionally even smoothness. It does kind of suit her like that.
Linterdiction May 29, 2025 9:20PM
Like they definitely wanted to keep as many lines as possible. but they did also make a whole thing of it, and it is addressed. It's really different from a game like FGO where the female protag really does just feel like a tacked-on option.
FluffyCow May 30, 2025 1:23AM
^Gudako and Gudao aren't super different in FGO, though how some characters treat the protag has differences, they do make certain unique CGs and Arts for each protag, including ones that just show their command spells (you can tell the protag command spells apart easily), along with certain scenes in the game playing out differently depending on who you're playing, which is something I wish would happen more often but they are there here and there. One of the primary fun elements of the protag differences is the Shinjuku chapter where Gudako dresses in a suit, and Gudao wears a dress. Some of these elements and characteristics are better defined in the manga adaptions as well, as some feature Gudako as the protag, and others feature Gudao. So while the protags for Extra/Extella might get a bit more, I wouldn't say Gudako is just tacked on either as there is some really fun differences.
Anyways, regardless of your opinion on FGO I think we can both at the very least agree that Fate needs more main line anime featuring their lady protagonists.
Moedred May 30, 2025 4:19AM
I'm FGO only few servant really "notice" your gender. If I remember Fergus tells you he is not into man, but can give you a pass, Kiyohime say that she don't care you are a girl and Medusa tells you that's she "prefers that way" if you set your gender as female. And of course Morgan is calling you wife. But overall gender is purely aesthetic thing.
FluffyCow May 30, 2025 4:53AM
^Dino Summer from what I remember has a girls night or a boys night depending on who you're playing. The island building summer when it comes to being stuck there Scath offers runes that can help Gudako repopulate the island with servants such as Tamamo. Which in theory means Gudako with some rune help could get Tamamo pregnant. There's some other dialogue bits and scenes here and there. I do wish there was more, but at least we have the manga adaptions as I mentioned. There's also the Riyo gag series where Gudako and Gudao are both uniquely defined, there's the Youtube shorts with Gudao, along with the FGO Carnival Phantasm that focuses on Gudako as the master. So there's stuff. Personally I love both Hakuno and Gudako and that's my view. Perfectly fine if anyone has a different opinion, we can simply agree to disagree.
That aside as far as adaptions go I'd love an Extra or Extella anime where Hakuno is the protag. I'd also love an FGO adaption of the Shimosa manga where Gudako is the protag, following the art style of the manga.
