it's basically Worse Arknights Knockoff that's also for dykes but in a more pandering way. but what can i say, im the target audience. ive been v baihe-pilled lately and this game is too sooooo...
last edited at May 22, 2025 10:10AM
Moedred
May 22, 2025 10:49AM
PtN have like 70-something percentage of female player base, at least according to survey made in China. I think it's either highest or 2nd highest out of "popular" gacha games. Top3 were also Infinity Nikki and Reverse:1999.
Interesting enough it and fact that games like Snowbreak, Azur Lane and ZZZ have lowest female player base confirms something that a lot of guys saying defending some characters designs, that, yes women like Fanservice-designed female characters, they just like "different" kind of Fanservice.
Well there is Love and Deepspace, but that an outlier :)
Edit. I just checked and ZZZ isn't that bad (just a bit worse that other popular Hoyo games), WuWa and PGR have it worse.
last edited at May 22, 2025 11:05AM
Zesc
May 22, 2025 3:42PM
^ Source on that? Less that I don't believe you (everyone on the internet is always trustworthy), but it'd be interesting to see how other gachas compare (in particulary Limbus Corporation). It'd be also interesting to see how chinese (and eastern) spreads compare to western/global ones.
FluffyCow
May 22, 2025 4:23PM
^If I remember correctly it was specifically gender ratios based on Chinese TikTok for the games or something along those lines. So I don't know if it's entirely accurate to representing the entirety of the fans and more so a specific segment of the fandoms on a specific platform.
It's supposedly come from CN TikTok accounts of these games. As you see Limbus isn't there. Maybe they only took one that publish this kind of data. I think Hoyo doing it each year. I remember they published CN and US/EU data and their ratio in CN overall were 66/33 too. And for EU/US servers it was 55/45 I think.
For the love of all that is golden, do not search WuWa subreddit for source of this iconographic. Damn what a toxic shithole. And I was holding ZZZ low in that regard.
FluffyCow
May 22, 2025 4:40PM
^The worst gacha fandom at present is probably Snowbreak, so that's definitely one to avoid in general. From what I've heard they hate real women so much that they don't want women anywhere near their game, no fans, no cosplayers, nothing. A lot of gacha fandoms have issues, but they seem to take the cake and then some for incel behavior.
Moedred
May 22, 2025 4:52PM
I can only have opinion on a games that I know, but for me three worst gacha-related communities are Snowbreak (for a reason you yourself posted), Blue Archive for rampant pedophilia, and ZZZ (they are honestly a mix of Snowbreak - an genuine aggression if you criticize character, especially design, but they are more "gooners" that straight-up incels, they don't shun women - yet, and an Blue Archive - they have the same "fascination" with younger characters and even child-NPCs, including this God-awful Blue Archive "meme" , but they still lust after adult-ones. I can't criticize their obsession with incest, even if I have objections to it with M/F couples, I don't want to be a hypocrite). It's always funny how ZZZ player paint themselves as "best, chill community", but it's always like that only if you follow Hive Mind and don't stray from "narration".
But seeing some WuWa CCs and this alternative subreddit, WuWa trying their hardest to climb rankings in "awfulness".
last edited at May 22, 2025 4:53PM
FluffyCow
May 22, 2025 5:08PM
^With ZZZ most of my experience with the fandom is pretty light, so I've mostly just seen people enjoying the game and artists drawing it. Blue Archive I'm not going to equate liking anime lolis to actual pedophilia, but you do and that's an argument that's not going to go anywhere. Especially with how I've seen part of social media turn on the Bocchi The Rock mangaka because she plays Blue Archive, where they were calling her a pedophile for playing the game. All sides can be excessive and in need of touching grass.
Anyways, we're steering way off course with off-topic conversation so I'll just leave it there.
Zesc
May 23, 2025 11:59AM
Excuse me calling shenanigans, but a deleted user in a "free speech"-oriented subforum of the crayon connoisseurs citing corporate music.ly accounts makes me think this is a vibes-based guesstimate, diplomatically worded.
Even if we assume best intentions (dubious given the discussion about NIKKE, which isn't even in the "info"graphic, and its presumed large female playerbase in the original thread) the source could have easily confused follower demographics for actual playerbase. Especially since this for example contradicts the 55/45 split of Genshin that is reported by multiple sources[1][2][3].
(There's also a purported QuanticFoundry survey that puts the AK ratio in stark contrast at 2:1; howbeit an echo chamber poll is even worse at 6:1, underlining the massive skew of surveying third-party platforms. Honourable mention goes to whatever the frack this PGR poll was supposed to be???)
Not that i could find much better sources myself. Guess I need to be a CCP-investor to get access to the juiciest data.
Moedred
May 23, 2025 2:07PM
^I mean it's most "reliable" source we can get, most games don't really collect and publish data on players genders. I'm not a fun of TikTok (I hate it in fact), but this China-targeted aggression is...kinda weird? Especially in discussion about Gacha games, since a lot, if not most in this iconograpic, are CN-made.
I didn't saw people discussing about NIKKE there, they talk about Infinity NIKKI, which is a different game.
Funnily enough I wrote 55/45 for Genshin from memory, good to know this Swiss Cheese in my head still working somehow.
Every good-will survey will have bias, since gender, age, orientation etc. ratio can be different for different sites, and subsites. Most players don't even use forums, they just play. TikTok, Youtube or even Shitter actually would be one of better source, since it's used by everyone, don't have that much of an imbalance like Reddit, or even this very site have. We work with what we got.
Lady Lamperouge May 20, 2025 4:10AM
woah...
Linterdiction May 22, 2025 2:34AM
I should re-download ptn…
Vivozie May 22, 2025 3:05AM
^ never played it, now I want to
Linterdiction May 22, 2025 10:10AM
it's basically Worse Arknights Knockoff that's also for dykes but in a more pandering way. but what can i say, im the target audience. ive been v baihe-pilled lately and this game is too sooooo...
last edited at May 22, 2025 10:10AM
Moedred May 22, 2025 10:49AM
PtN have like 70-something percentage of female player base, at least according to survey made in China. I think it's either highest or 2nd highest out of "popular" gacha games. Top3 were also Infinity Nikki and Reverse:1999.
Interesting enough it and fact that games like Snowbreak, Azur Lane and ZZZ have lowest female player base confirms something that a lot of guys saying defending some characters designs, that, yes women like Fanservice-designed female characters, they just like "different" kind of Fanservice.
Well there is Love and Deepspace, but that an outlier :)
Edit. I just checked and ZZZ isn't that bad (just a bit worse that other popular Hoyo games), WuWa and PGR have it worse.
last edited at May 22, 2025 11:05AM
Zesc May 22, 2025 3:42PM
^ Source on that? Less that I don't believe you (everyone on the internet is always trustworthy), but it'd be interesting to see how other gachas compare (in particulary Limbus Corporation). It'd be also interesting to see how chinese (and eastern) spreads compare to western/global ones.
FluffyCow May 22, 2025 4:23PM
^If I remember correctly it was specifically gender ratios based on Chinese TikTok for the games or something along those lines. So I don't know if it's entirely accurate to representing the entirety of the fans and more so a specific segment of the fandoms on a specific platform.
Moedred May 22, 2025 4:32PM
^https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F6zjgnd6h86ve1.png
It's supposedly come from CN TikTok accounts of these games. As you see Limbus isn't there. Maybe they only took one that publish this kind of data. I think Hoyo doing it each year. I remember they published CN and US/EU data and their ratio in CN overall were 66/33 too. And for EU/US servers it was 55/45 I think.
For the love of all that is golden, do not search WuWa subreddit for source of this iconographic. Damn what a toxic shithole. And I was holding ZZZ low in that regard.
FluffyCow May 22, 2025 4:40PM
^The worst gacha fandom at present is probably Snowbreak, so that's definitely one to avoid in general. From what I've heard they hate real women so much that they don't want women anywhere near their game, no fans, no cosplayers, nothing. A lot of gacha fandoms have issues, but they seem to take the cake and then some for incel behavior.
Moedred May 22, 2025 4:52PM
I can only have opinion on a games that I know, but for me three worst gacha-related communities are Snowbreak (for a reason you yourself posted), Blue Archive for rampant pedophilia, and ZZZ (they are honestly a mix of Snowbreak - an genuine aggression if you criticize character, especially design, but they are more "gooners" that straight-up incels, they don't shun women - yet, and an Blue Archive - they have the same "fascination" with younger characters and even child-NPCs, including this God-awful Blue Archive "meme" , but they still lust after adult-ones. I can't criticize their obsession with incest, even if I have objections to it with M/F couples, I don't want to be a hypocrite). It's always funny how ZZZ player paint themselves as "best, chill community", but it's always like that only if you follow Hive Mind and don't stray from "narration".
But seeing some WuWa CCs and this alternative subreddit, WuWa trying their hardest to climb rankings in "awfulness".
last edited at May 22, 2025 4:53PM
FluffyCow May 22, 2025 5:08PM
^With ZZZ most of my experience with the fandom is pretty light, so I've mostly just seen people enjoying the game and artists drawing it. Blue Archive I'm not going to equate liking anime lolis to actual pedophilia, but you do and that's an argument that's not going to go anywhere. Especially with how I've seen part of social media turn on the Bocchi The Rock mangaka because she plays Blue Archive, where they were calling her a pedophile for playing the game. All sides can be excessive and in need of touching grass.
Anyways, we're steering way off course with off-topic conversation so I'll just leave it there.
Zesc May 23, 2025 11:59AM
Excuse me calling shenanigans, but a deleted user in a "free speech"-oriented subforum of the crayon connoisseurs citing corporate music.ly accounts makes me think this is a vibes-based guesstimate, diplomatically worded.
Even if we assume best intentions (dubious given the discussion about NIKKE, which isn't even in the "info"graphic, and its presumed large female playerbase in the original thread) the source could have easily confused follower demographics for actual playerbase. Especially since this for example contradicts the 55/45 split of Genshin that is reported by multiple sources[1][2][3].
(There's also a purported QuanticFoundry survey that puts the AK ratio in stark contrast at 2:1; howbeit an echo chamber poll is even worse at 6:1, underlining the massive skew of surveying third-party platforms. Honourable mention goes to whatever the frack this PGR poll was supposed to be???)
Not that i could find much better sources myself. Guess I need to be a CCP-investor to get access to the juiciest data.
Moedred May 23, 2025 2:07PM
^I mean it's most "reliable" source we can get, most games don't really collect and publish data on players genders. I'm not a fun of TikTok (I hate it in fact), but this China-targeted aggression is...kinda weird? Especially in discussion about Gacha games, since a lot, if not most in this iconograpic, are CN-made.
I didn't saw people discussing about NIKKE there, they talk about Infinity NIKKI, which is a different game.
Funnily enough I wrote 55/45 for Genshin from memory, good to know this Swiss Cheese in my head still working somehow.
Every good-will survey will have bias, since gender, age, orientation etc. ratio can be different for different sites, and subsites. Most players don't even use forums, they just play. TikTok, Youtube or even Shitter actually would be one of better source, since it's used by everyone, don't have that much of an imbalance like Reddit, or even this very site have. We work with what we got.