Still wondering why Doki took down her stream that she had with that anti-woke lawyer. It's not like she have to hide her views collabing with "Hide your powerlevel" Pippa or Fillian.
FluffyCow
Aug 4, 2025 4:13PM
^Oh? I've only watched Doki casually on and off and I guess I missed her views being bad. I don't know what "hide your power level" means here, but I do avoid Fillian after not liking something she said, and I especially avoid Pippa because to my knowledge Pippa is "far right 4chan memes" the Vtuber. I never knew Doki is close with either of them, outside of maybe a collab or two with Fillian....? Sadly my memory is hazy heh
Moedred
Aug 4, 2025 4:47PM
Yeah, one of her first "collabs" was with some, pretty popular as far as i saw, lawyer who went full into "anty-woke-Disney" stuff. It's just deleted/hidden.
"Hide your powerlevel" if from 4chan, it's hiding your "true" views to feign innocence and attract people step by step. And since it's 4chan, you know what views these are. It's also kinda interesting to see, that anytime someone call Phase "problematic" almost instantly some of their fans come out and prove them right with their comment.
Fillian is one of few streamers (together with Pippa, Tenma and NuxTaku) that massively boosted people like Rev (but he was big even earlier, I remember him from Azur Lane memes compilations, even before he went full hog on culture wars), Kirche (one that called herself "Alex Jones of VTubing" and "jokingly" KKKirche) and SmugAlana (pretty box-standard VTuber that went full on anti-woke/blackpill when she realized how much money she can make from it, idk if she belive or is just an grifter, but guess former). It's funny how they always rage at "politics in their media", but all political VTubers are an the right.
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FluffyCow
Aug 4, 2025 5:20PM
^Interesting to know, thanks. I'll keep an ear open with Doki and see if she expresses worse views, I hope she hid the video you're talking about because she wasn't okay with it. Maybe she's friends with some unfortunate people, I just hope she doesn't share those views at least...
Editing my previous statement since I thought about it more: I think most Vtubers I've seen don't get political, I've seen some that appear to be more open minded / nice people, and don't like what's happening in the world, but there are definitely a whole handful that are unhinged 4chan types unfortunately.
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juanelric
Aug 4, 2025 6:03PM
Oh god, I already blocked Centurii on Twitter and Facebook so I won't have to risk seeing her racist crap, can't believe I have to increase my list of people to avoid on the internet.
Why do so many "slightly-famous-on-the-internet" people lean far right?
Moedred
Aug 4, 2025 6:08PM
^It makes money. People crave negativity much, much more than positivity. I mean just look at world as a whole. And you don't really expected people who are into VTubers to be most well-adjusted people aren't You? Not from something that is on the crossroads of anime, gaming, streaming and politics in that case.
Funnily enough Fillian is literally streaming with SmugAlana right now. And once again two weeks ago.
But I still had people telling me that "Fillian is just stupid, she don't do it by purpose, she is unaware of what they doing". Yeah sure, mate.
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Mr. Jones
Aug 4, 2025 7:15PM
Vtubers... not even once.
FluffyCow
Aug 4, 2025 7:38PM
^I mean...there's also a good amount of Vtubers that I do genuinely love, though I generally don't know what their views are due to them not wanting to get into it (understandable so), I just know them as being generally nice people. So I don't think this is a "all Vtubers are evil" situation lol
Edit:
One example off the top of my head. Melody is one that comes to mind in terms of being smart with a good head on her shoulders to my knowledge. I don't know all of her views, but she seems like a genuinely kind person and sex positive in a healthy way. At least from what I've seen of her.
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ObsessiveFingerLicker
Aug 4, 2025 8:00PM
@juanelric
Why do so many "slightly-famous-on-the-internet" people lean far right?
Content creators need to maintain a level of "relevancy" to have a stable income. They see this kind of stuff (which currently is very relevant) just as a form of entertainment. Let's remember that at some point all memes came from 4chan, in a way everyone wants to be part of that... Let's also remember that most people are uneducated in these disciplines.
juanelric
Aug 9, 2025 9:01PM
@Moedred by the way, which Pippa do you mean? Pipkin or Pebblesworth?
Moedred
Aug 10, 2025 3:07AM
^Pipkin. But funnily enough they did collab together.
Moedred Aug 4, 2025 3:54PM
Still wondering why Doki took down her stream that she had with that anti-woke lawyer. It's not like she have to hide her views collabing with "Hide your powerlevel" Pippa or Fillian.
FluffyCow Aug 4, 2025 4:13PM
^Oh? I've only watched Doki casually on and off and I guess I missed her views being bad. I don't know what "hide your power level" means here, but I do avoid Fillian after not liking something she said, and I especially avoid Pippa because to my knowledge Pippa is "far right 4chan memes" the Vtuber. I never knew Doki is close with either of them, outside of maybe a collab or two with Fillian....? Sadly my memory is hazy heh
Moedred Aug 4, 2025 4:47PM
Yeah, one of her first "collabs" was with some, pretty popular as far as i saw, lawyer who went full into "anty-woke-Disney" stuff. It's just deleted/hidden.
"Hide your powerlevel" if from 4chan, it's hiding your "true" views to feign innocence and attract people step by step. And since it's 4chan, you know what views these are. It's also kinda interesting to see, that anytime someone call Phase "problematic" almost instantly some of their fans come out and prove them right with their comment.
Fillian is one of few streamers (together with Pippa, Tenma and NuxTaku) that massively boosted people like Rev (but he was big even earlier, I remember him from Azur Lane memes compilations, even before he went full hog on culture wars), Kirche (one that called herself "Alex Jones of VTubing" and "jokingly" KKKirche) and SmugAlana (pretty box-standard VTuber that went full on anti-woke/blackpill when she realized how much money she can make from it, idk if she belive or is just an grifter, but guess former). It's funny how they always rage at "politics in their media", but all political VTubers are an the right.
last edited at Aug 4, 2025 4:53PM
FluffyCow Aug 4, 2025 5:20PM
^Interesting to know, thanks. I'll keep an ear open with Doki and see if she expresses worse views, I hope she hid the video you're talking about because she wasn't okay with it. Maybe she's friends with some unfortunate people, I just hope she doesn't share those views at least...
Editing my previous statement since I thought about it more: I think most Vtubers I've seen don't get political, I've seen some that appear to be more open minded / nice people, and don't like what's happening in the world, but there are definitely a whole handful that are unhinged 4chan types unfortunately.
last edited at Aug 4, 2025 7:40PM
juanelric Aug 4, 2025 6:03PM
Oh god, I already blocked Centurii on Twitter and Facebook so I won't have to risk seeing her racist crap, can't believe I have to increase my list of people to avoid on the internet.
Why do so many "slightly-famous-on-the-internet" people lean far right?
Moedred Aug 4, 2025 6:08PM
^It makes money. People crave negativity much, much more than positivity. I mean just look at world as a whole. And you don't really expected people who are into VTubers to be most well-adjusted people aren't You? Not from something that is on the crossroads of anime, gaming, streaming and politics in that case.
Funnily enough Fillian is literally streaming with SmugAlana right now. And once again two weeks ago.
But I still had people telling me that "Fillian is just stupid, she don't do it by purpose, she is unaware of what they doing". Yeah sure, mate.
last edited at Aug 4, 2025 7:06PM
Mr. Jones Aug 4, 2025 7:15PM
Vtubers... not even once.
FluffyCow Aug 4, 2025 7:38PM
^I mean...there's also a good amount of Vtubers that I do genuinely love, though I generally don't know what their views are due to them not wanting to get into it (understandable so), I just know them as being generally nice people. So I don't think this is a "all Vtubers are evil" situation lol
Edit:
One example off the top of my head. Melody is one that comes to mind in terms of being smart with a good head on her shoulders to my knowledge. I don't know all of her views, but she seems like a genuinely kind person and sex positive in a healthy way. At least from what I've seen of her.
last edited at Aug 4, 2025 8:07PM
ObsessiveFingerLicker Aug 4, 2025 8:00PM
@juanelric
Content creators need to maintain a level of "relevancy" to have a stable income. They see this kind of stuff (which currently is very relevant) just as a form of entertainment. Let's remember that at some point all memes came from 4chan, in a way everyone wants to be part of that... Let's also remember that most people are uneducated in these disciplines.
juanelric Aug 9, 2025 9:01PM
@Moedred by the way, which Pippa do you mean? Pipkin or Pebblesworth?
Moedred Aug 10, 2025 3:07AM
^Pipkin. But funnily enough they did collab together.
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