Oh hell yes. I'm going to pretend that I'm Stark and this is my birthday present.
FluffyCow
May 6, 2025 2:57AM
^
ImheretoDie
May 6, 2025 5:14AM
^
Eggsnrice
May 6, 2025 5:41AM
Someone didn’t get the memo around here
MilesVelocity
May 6, 2025 8:09AM
^^^^ no h*t here
youdontknowwho
May 6, 2025 8:33AM
^^^^^
You're on the wrong site. Please leave.
BV
May 6, 2025 12:52PM
@eromancer I expected better from you.
Owl-Mage
May 6, 2025 2:07PM
Maybe they just think that Fern x Frieren yuri is good birthday gift, I'll personally like it. Or maybe it was just a joke, and everyone should take all of this a little less seriously. Very nice picture by the way.
last edited at May 6, 2025 2:14PM
FluffyCow
May 6, 2025 2:19PM
^Going into a lesbian/LGBT centered community and commenting that you're going to self insert into a male character in order to receive a woman as a present is weird. It's weird for a few reasons but at the very least read the room here. It's entirely reasonable for people to be uncomfortable about such a remark and it's not something that people should simply "take less seriously" as you put it.
Moedred
May 6, 2025 3:06PM
^Yeah I met way too much "lesbians aren't real, they are just playing, and will become normal when they will take a D" in real life to "take it less seriously ".
last edited at May 6, 2025 3:07PM
Knobody Knows
May 6, 2025 4:07PM
Oh hell yes. I'm going to pretend that I'm Stark and this is my birthday present.
"Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door. Rule 34's two blocks down."
last edited at May 6, 2025 4:07PM
MagiMaki
May 6, 2025 9:31PM
It does look like they are looking at a third (probably male) person but I'll just pretent they look into a mirror and Frieren is a bit too into whatever thing they are trying together.
Aureole
May 6, 2025 11:34PM
imo the third person is in a "third wheel" kind of position. You see, Fern looked quite annoyed at the third person in the picture, like, "why are you still here? can't you read the room and get out of here so we can have some fun?"
^^^Artist seems to draw only Yuri and solo stuff so I'm not sure "looking for third, probably male" was an intention.
DrJamesFox
May 7, 2025 2:02AM
^Agreed. Unless there is an obvious indication that there is a third person, I'll give the artist the benefit of the doubt that they're simply drawing the characters without putting much thought into composition.
KurayamiNeko
May 7, 2025 5:45AM
"Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation." - Frieren the =w=, property of Fern.
SrNevik
May 7, 2025 9:25AM
The "third person" is the audience, not a real person. That's how these comps nearly always work. I definitely wouldn't assume some guy, even without knowing the artist draws pretty much only women.
last edited at May 7, 2025 9:25AM
Yamahara Kudo
May 8, 2025 1:46PM
I wonder if he read any of the yuri manga here or he is new lol. Anyway these are nice art and I'm glad the artist slowly getting healthy with their mental health
BV
May 8, 2025 2:33PM
^ eromancer has been here for years. I've mostly seen (I assume) him on image comments, but I might've seen him on a manga discussion thread once or twice (it's more likely I mixed him up for someone else, but my memory isn't really good at that stuff, so, while unlikely, there is a non-zero chance)
EDIT:
OK, went to double check - the discussion thread that I was thinking of didn't show up in his post history, but he did make a couple dozen or so comments accross different chapter discussion threads, including 4 comments on 3 threads that I have read in the past, though of those 3 comment threads, 2 of them (containing 3 of the 4 comments) were on one-shot doujinshi of other works, and only 1 on a serialized original manga.
last edited at May 8, 2025 2:41PM
Iono
May 9, 2025 3:25AM
What a weird conversation...
Yamahara Kudo
May 9, 2025 3:30AM
^^ Ahh I see my bad, ero. I apologise if I made an assumption
last edited at May 9, 2025 3:40AM
Moedred
May 9, 2025 4:58AM
^^Well, you can't say we aren't passionate community.
juanelric
May 9, 2025 7:25AM
Tbf a lot of couple art has the characters look at the viewer, so I don't get why only Yuri get this "the viewer is part of the scene" treatment. That said, if you can't tell just from a manga/doujin's cover whether it's Yuri or harem/male-focused poly, I feel covers where the girls look at the viewer are much more likely to not be Yuri.
Also, today I realized no Fern x Frieren posts have the age gap tag. Byleth x Edelgard posts don't either, despite Byleth being 3~4 years older than Edelgard, and Byleth x Rhea posts only do because I slowly suggested the tag to all posts of them. These aren't even the only ships without the age gap tag that probably should have it.
last edited at May 9, 2025 8:40AM
SrNevik
May 9, 2025 9:21AM
despite Byleth being 3~4 years older than Edelgard
We're using age gap tags for 3-4 years? I don't think that's what most people are intending when they think of age gap in a series. I agree with Byleth/Rhea and Frieren stuff, though.
last edited at May 9, 2025 9:22AM
Zesc
May 9, 2025 11:27AM
I feel covers where the girls look at the viewer are much more likely to not be Yuri.
juanelric
May 9, 2025 12:36PM
^I stand corrected
But also look at this crap:
And as much as I like 100Kano as a rare good harem (as in, "it's good despite being harem", not "it's good and it's harem), it also does the "looking at you, isn't Yuri" thing:
last edited at May 9, 2025 12:46PM
FluffyCow
May 9, 2025 1:34PM
We're using age gap tags for 3-4 years? I don't think that's what most people are intending when they think of age gap in a series. I agree with Byleth/Rhea and Frieren stuff, though.
Yeah 3-4 years is not an age gap, that's very standard I think.
UrsaTempest
May 9, 2025 7:05PM
That's more a matter of composition. Lots of pics take cue from photo, which does have third person: the photographer. Or, I suppose, the painter, etc. But they don't (necessarily) pose for the photographer/painter - they pose for hypothetical viewer of the photo/painting.
Which is you.
Swag Wagon
May 9, 2025 8:55PM
@Zesc I have no idea what the top right one is in the "Bait and straight" column, but aren't all the rest of the couples explicitly in a relationship together?
And I thought Hibike Euphonium was just (very very heavy) subtext. Feel free to correct me, I haven't actually read/watched it yet.
I'm having difficulty parsing if the meme is supposed to be ironic or not.
It took me a moment to parse/remember what all the posters on the left side were. I'm now 90% sure it's supposed to be ironic but I feel like there's something I'm missing and my faith has been shaken.
last edited at May 9, 2025 9:00PM
FluffyCow
May 9, 2025 9:32PM
^Yeah it's a meme post. The left side are characters looking at each other that would make for good couple, but don't get together, often because the series wants the characters to be straight instead. The right side are girls looking at the camera but they're all canonically in a relationship together, or at least canonically lesbians.
UrsaTempest
May 9, 2025 9:34PM
yeah, the joke is Bait and Straight isn't bait and straight. The cast do get together as a couple. While the one that's 'Surely Yuri' is at best high subtext, and most of them either separate or get last-minute bf.
Zesc
May 10, 2025 12:19AM
The top right is the anime cover of Yuri Kuma Arashi if I'm not mistaken. Also that meme is only funny because it's true. Everybody claiming it is "ironic" is part of an elaborate PsyOp.
Anyway, folks, help me out. Is there any succint, memorably way to tell people not to gauge a manga by it's front binding ...?
eromancer
May 10, 2025 4:18AM
Um ... juuust poking my head back in on a comment I forgot I made and ... Jesus Christ everyone! I was just making an offhand remark about my own personal fantasies. I assure you I am well aware this is a yuri site--what kind of moron wouldn't be? Am I not allowed to express my own sexually-related thoughts without pretending I'm a woman?
@Moedred; I assure you, I do not think that "lesbians aren't real" and that they "will become normal when they will take a D". I would be the first person to tell someone like that to go fuck themselves. I am honestly and truly sorry for whatever experiences you've had in real life, or online. But I find it incredibly offensive that you would read that into my comment; it isn't fair for you to project all of that onto me just for expressing that I find this work alluring in a way that would be natural for a male. I'm not a monster.
@FluffyCow: I didn't just show up here yesterday. You ought to be aware of that. I'm sorry but no, I don't think it's reasonable to be uncomfortable when I make a remark that implies nothing more than the fact that I'm a male and these are two of my favorite waifus. I'm really stunned that you think an honest self-expression like that is such a violation of norms--I didn't think appreciation of yuri meant male sexuality was so thoroughly reviled. The sanctimony about "receiving someone as a gift" is absurd on a site that is far from restricted to entirely wholesome representations of lesbian relationships, and I'm sure I could easily find positive comments by almost anyone here on pictures where women were given as "gifts" to other women, possibly coerced into sexual servility, or other such risque themes.
@youdontknowwho: You don't know who I am, so don't talk to me like I'm some creep.
I'm tempted to apologize here, and honestly I thought the first few remarks were just teasing. But then it got serious and nasty, and now I'm pissed and frankly a little hurt. If this is the kind of reaction I'm going to get just by expressing my own personal sexual thoughts--that I'm some woman-hating man-o-sphere incel who thinks lesbians are just jilted feminists--than maybe I'm not welcome here, and I should just become a lurker. But frankly I expected better of all of you.
FluffyCow
May 10, 2025 4:55AM
What I'm saying is that reading the room will help you avoid socially awkward situations. I don't know you and I don't think you're a bad person or anything like that, it's fine to have your sexual fantasies, though there is a time and a place for certain talk. Sharing a male centered sexual fantasy in a lesbian centered community is awkward, and it's going to make people uncomfortable. It also overlaps with how there's a long ongoing history in the world with women being treated like objects that are owned by men. Regardless of your personal intent it can be easy to come off certain ways without meaning to, and I'm definitely not perfect either, I make a lot of mistakes and social fumbles. I also apologize if I'm rude or harsh at all, I simply think there's a certain element of knowing your audience here and acting accordingly.
eromancer
May 10, 2025 6:08AM
I appreciate your response and I'm sorry if I overreacted. For what it's worth, I did briefly consider putting a disclaimer or qualifier of some sort on my comment; I suppose I should have.
I understand that this place is a refuge to an extent from all of the toxic masculinity in the world, but I hoped that the fact that Stark is a good male character who doesn't exhibit any of the chauvinistic flaws of other male anime heroes, and respects his female comrades as equals, would dampen any such visceral reactions. I like yuri not specifically because it excludes males but because it generally features more positive representations of both relationships and sex, with most male-oriented such works being a rather prurient and shallow mess of bodily fluids and unhealthy power dynamics. Frieren in general doesn't have a yuri vibe but it promotes healthier het pairings than in other anime/manga, so I hoped fans of the series would understand. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
Moedred
May 10, 2025 8:55AM
^I too can say sorry for my too harsh of an comment, I just frustrated reading similar comments on other sites under yuri-adjacent content, so it made me unnecessarily angry. Even if, like Fluffy said, "There is time and place for such an comments" I still want to apologize, that my reaction made you feel bad, I shouldn't attack you this hard.
I think i just got jaded with everything, with this site being small respite for me.
eromancer
May 10, 2025 11:46AM
I understand, Moedred; sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable or if I overreacted. I'll be more sensitive in the future. Thanks for your reply. No hard feelings.
ManuTheBloodedge
May 10, 2025 9:37PM
While I understand the need for spaces where you have some kind of control over the interactions you are going to get, one should be careful to avoid being exclusinary themselves. Have your rules and enforce them, sure, but a rule that is not applied equally is not a rule, but a weapon.
Saying that someone should not be expressing heterosexual fantasies in a homosexual-centered space is the same kind of logic that is used against homosexuals kissing in public by the "won't somebody think of the children" types.
Live and let live, people. We won't reach an understanding by cornering ourselves off in our segregated little fiefdoms where we throw out wrongthinkers.
That being said, the ability of admitting that emotions flared too high and apologizing is very good to see and puts this place leagues above other online spaces, so kudos.
MagiMaki
May 13, 2025 6:27AM
@Moedred: I guess I'm too jaded as well looking at fanarts and covers even though by default my brain likes to go for the yuri route and ignore any straight canon I don't like. I do think eromancer did nothing wrong of course and being suspicious of "two girls looking at the audience" is valid in most cases. Anyway, it's really cute art and I'm still scared to watch the series any further because of Himmel and Stark. xD
TwirlSakura
May 14, 2025 3:21AM
Just stopping in to say owwa owwa mama mia. I totally believe they could develop a roleplay relat like this. Bet she even turned herself into a catamd domineering Fern has no patience for her tonight. Carry on ladies.
Perlen297
May 14, 2025 4:02AM
"Saying that someone should not be expressing heterosexual fantasies in a homosexual-centered space is the same kind of logic that is used against homosexuals kissing in public by the "won't somebody think of the children" types."
Practicing sensitivity in a LGBT space (in an otherwise still widely homophobic world) is nowhere near of a comparison to actual examples of homophobia in society. Just... completely different dynamic entirely.
Sorry but this is just too baffling to let on.
last edited at May 14, 2025 4:05AM
butches-and-chicken
May 14, 2025 4:37AM
^ I second that and also:
Live and let live, people. We won't reach an understanding by cornering ourselves off in our segregated little fiefdoms where we throw out wrongthinkers.
This is not like segregation in real life, an internet space will never be like one from irl. People aren't throwing out "wrongthinkers", people are just saying "hey, this makes people kind of uncomfortable", this isn't segregation.
It doesn't make much sense to me to say that lgbt people are acting the same as homophobics in the moment they say "please, read the room" when these people have read the room for cishet all of their life. And we aren't going to grow as a society if we don't listen to each other, and, you see, eromancer listened to and the others even apologized for the harshness, it's the dialogue that matters, understanding each other.
eromancer May 6, 2025 2:37AM
Oh hell yes. I'm going to pretend that I'm Stark and this is my birthday present.
FluffyCow May 6, 2025 2:57AM
^
ImheretoDie May 6, 2025 5:14AM
^
Eggsnrice May 6, 2025 5:41AM
Someone didn’t get the memo around here
MilesVelocity May 6, 2025 8:09AM
^^^^ no h*t here
youdontknowwho May 6, 2025 8:33AM
^^^^^
You're on the wrong site. Please leave.
BV May 6, 2025 12:52PM
@eromancer I expected better from you.
Owl-Mage May 6, 2025 2:07PM
Maybe they just think that Fern x Frieren yuri is good birthday gift, I'll personally like it. Or maybe it was just a joke, and everyone should take all of this a little less seriously. Very nice picture by the way.
last edited at May 6, 2025 2:14PM
FluffyCow May 6, 2025 2:19PM
^Going into a lesbian/LGBT centered community and commenting that you're going to self insert into a male character in order to receive a woman as a present is weird. It's weird for a few reasons but at the very least read the room here. It's entirely reasonable for people to be uncomfortable about such a remark and it's not something that people should simply "take less seriously" as you put it.
Moedred May 6, 2025 3:06PM
^Yeah I met way too much "lesbians aren't real, they are just playing, and will become normal when they will take a D" in real life to "take it less seriously ".
last edited at May 6, 2025 3:07PM
Knobody Knows May 6, 2025 4:07PM
"Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door. Rule 34's two blocks down."
last edited at May 6, 2025 4:07PM
MagiMaki May 6, 2025 9:31PM
It does look like they are looking at a third (probably male) person but I'll just pretent they look into a mirror and Frieren is a bit too into whatever thing they are trying together.
Aureole May 6, 2025 11:34PM
imo the third person is in a "third wheel" kind of position. You see, Fern looked quite annoyed at the third person in the picture, like, "why are you still here? can't you read the room and get out of here so we can have some fun?"
last edited at May 6, 2025 11:47PM
LilyBlueCat May 6, 2025 11:38PM
^^ Fair point, but there are a lot of pictures on this site where the couple are looking at a third person
https://dynasty-scans.com/images/34317
https://dynasty-scans.com/images/33908
https://dynasty-scans.com/images/33509
last edited at May 6, 2025 11:38PM
Moedred May 7, 2025 1:47AM
^^^Artist seems to draw only Yuri and solo stuff so I'm not sure "looking for third, probably male" was an intention.
DrJamesFox May 7, 2025 2:02AM
^Agreed. Unless there is an obvious indication that there is a third person, I'll give the artist the benefit of the doubt that they're simply drawing the characters without putting much thought into composition.
KurayamiNeko May 7, 2025 5:45AM
"Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation." - Frieren the =w=, property of Fern.
SrNevik May 7, 2025 9:25AM
The "third person" is the audience, not a real person. That's how these comps nearly always work. I definitely wouldn't assume some guy, even without knowing the artist draws pretty much only women.
last edited at May 7, 2025 9:25AM
Yamahara Kudo May 8, 2025 1:46PM
I wonder if he read any of the yuri manga here or he is new lol. Anyway these are nice art and I'm glad the artist slowly getting healthy with their mental health
BV May 8, 2025 2:33PM
^ eromancer has been here for years. I've mostly seen (I assume) him on image comments, but I might've seen him on a manga discussion thread once or twice (it's more likely I mixed him up for someone else, but my memory isn't really good at that stuff, so, while unlikely, there is a non-zero chance)
EDIT:
OK, went to double check - the discussion thread that I was thinking of didn't show up in his post history, but he did make a couple dozen or so comments accross different chapter discussion threads, including 4 comments on 3 threads that I have read in the past, though of those 3 comment threads, 2 of them (containing 3 of the 4 comments) were on one-shot doujinshi of other works, and only 1 on a serialized original manga.
last edited at May 8, 2025 2:41PM
Iono May 9, 2025 3:25AM
What a weird conversation...
Yamahara Kudo May 9, 2025 3:30AM
^^ Ahh I see my bad, ero. I apologise if I made an assumption
last edited at May 9, 2025 3:40AM
Moedred May 9, 2025 4:58AM
^^Well, you can't say we aren't passionate community.
juanelric May 9, 2025 7:25AM
Tbf a lot of couple art has the characters look at the viewer, so I don't get why only Yuri get this "the viewer is part of the scene" treatment. That said, if you can't tell just from a manga/doujin's cover whether it's Yuri or harem/male-focused poly, I feel covers where the girls look at the viewer are much more likely to not be Yuri.
Also, today I realized no Fern x Frieren posts have the age gap tag. Byleth x Edelgard posts don't either, despite Byleth being 3~4 years older than Edelgard, and Byleth x Rhea posts only do because I slowly suggested the tag to all posts of them. These aren't even the only ships without the age gap tag that probably should have it.
last edited at May 9, 2025 8:40AM
SrNevik May 9, 2025 9:21AM
We're using age gap tags for 3-4 years? I don't think that's what most people are intending when they think of age gap in a series. I agree with Byleth/Rhea and Frieren stuff, though.
last edited at May 9, 2025 9:22AM
Zesc May 9, 2025 11:27AM
juanelric May 9, 2025 12:36PM
^I stand corrected
But also look at this crap:
And as much as I like 100Kano as a rare good harem (as in, "it's good despite being harem", not "it's good and it's harem), it also does the "looking at you, isn't Yuri" thing:
last edited at May 9, 2025 12:46PM
FluffyCow May 9, 2025 1:34PM
Yeah 3-4 years is not an age gap, that's very standard I think.
UrsaTempest May 9, 2025 7:05PM
That's more a matter of composition. Lots of pics take cue from photo, which does have third person: the photographer. Or, I suppose, the painter, etc. But they don't (necessarily) pose for the photographer/painter - they pose for hypothetical viewer of the photo/painting.
Which is you.
Swag Wagon May 9, 2025 8:55PM
@Zesc I have no idea what the top right one is in the "Bait and straight" column, but aren't all the rest of the couples explicitly in a relationship together?
And I thought Hibike Euphonium was just (very very heavy) subtext. Feel free to correct me, I haven't actually read/watched it yet.
I'm having difficulty parsing if the meme is supposed to be ironic or not.
It took me a moment to parse/remember what all the posters on the left side were. I'm now 90% sure it's supposed to be ironic but I feel like there's something I'm missing and my faith has been shaken.
last edited at May 9, 2025 9:00PM
FluffyCow May 9, 2025 9:32PM
^Yeah it's a meme post. The left side are characters looking at each other that would make for good couple, but don't get together, often because the series wants the characters to be straight instead. The right side are girls looking at the camera but they're all canonically in a relationship together, or at least canonically lesbians.
UrsaTempest May 9, 2025 9:34PM
yeah, the joke is Bait and Straight isn't bait and straight. The cast do get together as a couple. While the one that's 'Surely Yuri' is at best high subtext, and most of them either separate or get last-minute bf.
Zesc May 10, 2025 12:19AM
The top right is the anime cover of Yuri Kuma Arashi if I'm not mistaken. Also that meme is only funny because it's true. Everybody claiming it is "ironic" is part of an elaborate PsyOp.
Anyway, folks, help me out. Is there any succint, memorably way to tell people not to gauge a manga by it's front binding ...?
eromancer May 10, 2025 4:18AM
Um ... juuust poking my head back in on a comment I forgot I made and ... Jesus Christ everyone! I was just making an offhand remark about my own personal fantasies. I assure you I am well aware this is a yuri site--what kind of moron wouldn't be? Am I not allowed to express my own sexually-related thoughts without pretending I'm a woman?
@Moedred; I assure you, I do not think that "lesbians aren't real" and that they "will become normal when they will take a D". I would be the first person to tell someone like that to go fuck themselves. I am honestly and truly sorry for whatever experiences you've had in real life, or online. But I find it incredibly offensive that you would read that into my comment; it isn't fair for you to project all of that onto me just for expressing that I find this work alluring in a way that would be natural for a male. I'm not a monster.
@FluffyCow: I didn't just show up here yesterday. You ought to be aware of that. I'm sorry but no, I don't think it's reasonable to be uncomfortable when I make a remark that implies nothing more than the fact that I'm a male and these are two of my favorite waifus. I'm really stunned that you think an honest self-expression like that is such a violation of norms--I didn't think appreciation of yuri meant male sexuality was so thoroughly reviled. The sanctimony about "receiving someone as a gift" is absurd on a site that is far from restricted to entirely wholesome representations of lesbian relationships, and I'm sure I could easily find positive comments by almost anyone here on pictures where women were given as "gifts" to other women, possibly coerced into sexual servility, or other such risque themes.
@youdontknowwho: You don't know who I am, so don't talk to me like I'm some creep.
I'm tempted to apologize here, and honestly I thought the first few remarks were just teasing. But then it got serious and nasty, and now I'm pissed and frankly a little hurt. If this is the kind of reaction I'm going to get just by expressing my own personal sexual thoughts--that I'm some woman-hating man-o-sphere incel who thinks lesbians are just jilted feminists--than maybe I'm not welcome here, and I should just become a lurker. But frankly I expected better of all of you.
FluffyCow May 10, 2025 4:55AM
What I'm saying is that reading the room will help you avoid socially awkward situations. I don't know you and I don't think you're a bad person or anything like that, it's fine to have your sexual fantasies, though there is a time and a place for certain talk. Sharing a male centered sexual fantasy in a lesbian centered community is awkward, and it's going to make people uncomfortable. It also overlaps with how there's a long ongoing history in the world with women being treated like objects that are owned by men. Regardless of your personal intent it can be easy to come off certain ways without meaning to, and I'm definitely not perfect either, I make a lot of mistakes and social fumbles. I also apologize if I'm rude or harsh at all, I simply think there's a certain element of knowing your audience here and acting accordingly.
eromancer May 10, 2025 6:08AM
I appreciate your response and I'm sorry if I overreacted. For what it's worth, I did briefly consider putting a disclaimer or qualifier of some sort on my comment; I suppose I should have.
I understand that this place is a refuge to an extent from all of the toxic masculinity in the world, but I hoped that the fact that Stark is a good male character who doesn't exhibit any of the chauvinistic flaws of other male anime heroes, and respects his female comrades as equals, would dampen any such visceral reactions. I like yuri not specifically because it excludes males but because it generally features more positive representations of both relationships and sex, with most male-oriented such works being a rather prurient and shallow mess of bodily fluids and unhealthy power dynamics. Frieren in general doesn't have a yuri vibe but it promotes healthier het pairings than in other anime/manga, so I hoped fans of the series would understand. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
Moedred May 10, 2025 8:55AM
^I too can say sorry for my too harsh of an comment, I just frustrated reading similar comments on other sites under yuri-adjacent content, so it made me unnecessarily angry. Even if, like Fluffy said, "There is time and place for such an comments" I still want to apologize, that my reaction made you feel bad, I shouldn't attack you this hard.
I think i just got jaded with everything, with this site being small respite for me.
eromancer May 10, 2025 11:46AM
I understand, Moedred; sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable or if I overreacted. I'll be more sensitive in the future. Thanks for your reply. No hard feelings.
ManuTheBloodedge May 10, 2025 9:37PM
While I understand the need for spaces where you have some kind of control over the interactions you are going to get, one should be careful to avoid being exclusinary themselves. Have your rules and enforce them, sure, but a rule that is not applied equally is not a rule, but a weapon.
Saying that someone should not be expressing heterosexual fantasies in a homosexual-centered space is the same kind of logic that is used against homosexuals kissing in public by the "won't somebody think of the children" types.
Live and let live, people. We won't reach an understanding by cornering ourselves off in our segregated little fiefdoms where we throw out wrongthinkers.
That being said, the ability of admitting that emotions flared too high and apologizing is very good to see and puts this place leagues above other online spaces, so kudos.
MagiMaki May 13, 2025 6:27AM
@Moedred: I guess I'm too jaded as well looking at fanarts and covers even though by default my brain likes to go for the yuri route and ignore any straight canon I don't like. I do think eromancer did nothing wrong of course and being suspicious of "two girls looking at the audience" is valid in most cases. Anyway, it's really cute art and I'm still scared to watch the series any further because of Himmel and Stark. xD
TwirlSakura May 14, 2025 3:21AM
Just stopping in to say owwa owwa mama mia. I totally believe they could develop a roleplay relat like this. Bet she even turned herself into a catamd domineering Fern has no patience for her tonight. Carry on ladies.
Perlen297 May 14, 2025 4:02AM
Practicing sensitivity in a LGBT space (in an otherwise still widely homophobic world) is nowhere near of a comparison to actual examples of homophobia in society. Just... completely different dynamic entirely.
Sorry but this is just too baffling to let on.
last edited at May 14, 2025 4:05AM
butches-and-chicken May 14, 2025 4:37AM
^ I second that and also:
This is not like segregation in real life, an internet space will never be like one from irl. People aren't throwing out "wrongthinkers", people are just saying "hey, this makes people kind of uncomfortable", this isn't segregation.
It doesn't make much sense to me to say that lgbt people are acting the same as homophobics in the moment they say "please, read the room" when these people have read the room for cishet all of their life. And we aren't going to grow as a society if we don't listen to each other, and, you see, eromancer listened to and the others even apologized for the harshness, it's the dialogue that matters, understanding each other.
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