I think the greatest example of modern character development is Takamori fans. They heard what Calli and Kiara said, took that in, then once the two did start hanging out again and providing ship material, they completely adjusted the understanding and portrayal of the dynamic
Donkey Kong
May 2, 2025 11:04PM
^ Did they put a stop to it cuz ppl were being too obsessive or smthn?
juanelric
May 2, 2025 11:09PM
^Yes
They didn't even kill the ship, they just wanted people to be less crazy about it (some people took it the wrong way at the time and get mad at them tho)
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FluffyCow
May 2, 2025 11:11PM
People got really into it so Kiara put some distance between herself and the ship, so her and Calli wouldn't be solely defined by the ship and so fourth. That's at least the gist that I remember but it's been awhile. I do remember Kiara at the time also saying it was fine for artists to continue drawing the ship, so it was never the death of the ship either.
pill359
May 3, 2025 3:53PM
^ I'm gonna be real here, it's not really their fault or the fans'. It's kinda hard to deny at this point that Hololive pushes for ships and yuri bait because people LIKE it. Gacha games have caught onto this too, it's why half the female characters in modern gachas are on the verge of making out 90% of the time.
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FluffyCow
May 3, 2025 5:20PM
^Kiara herself really pushed the ship and defined it at the start, as basically thee Holo EN ship at the start of the branch. After it became one of the primary focuses of her fans she needed to tone it down a bit. Especially because some of the fans did get really intense about it, and that entirely is on those fans. A person can enjoy a ship and be chill about it, being unhinged and taking the ship too far is entirely the fault of the people in the shipping sphere that get that way.
Also gacha games from 10ish years ago were into shipping so I wouldn't say that's new.
Dark_Tzitzimine
May 4, 2025 1:26AM
I must say is impressive how is the only OG Holo ship to still have a on-stream presence while every other has either died or moved off-stream.
[deleted]
May 6, 2025 5:53PM
Kiara still comments on some ship art on Twitter, it's just the people that are really into shipping take it way too far.
TheHusbandofAllTime May 2, 2025 9:35PM
I think the greatest example of modern character development is Takamori fans. They heard what Calli and Kiara said, took that in, then once the two did start hanging out again and providing ship material, they completely adjusted the understanding and portrayal of the dynamic
Donkey Kong May 2, 2025 11:04PM
^ Did they put a stop to it cuz ppl were being too obsessive or smthn?
juanelric May 2, 2025 11:09PM
^Yes
They didn't even kill the ship, they just wanted people to be less crazy about it (some people took it the wrong way at the time and get mad at them tho)
last edited at May 2, 2025 11:09PM
FluffyCow May 2, 2025 11:11PM
People got really into it so Kiara put some distance between herself and the ship, so her and Calli wouldn't be solely defined by the ship and so fourth. That's at least the gist that I remember but it's been awhile. I do remember Kiara at the time also saying it was fine for artists to continue drawing the ship, so it was never the death of the ship either.
pill359 May 3, 2025 3:53PM
^ I'm gonna be real here, it's not really their fault or the fans'. It's kinda hard to deny at this point that Hololive pushes for ships and yuri bait because people LIKE it. Gacha games have caught onto this too, it's why half the female characters in modern gachas are on the verge of making out 90% of the time.
last edited at May 3, 2025 3:54PM
FluffyCow May 3, 2025 5:20PM
^Kiara herself really pushed the ship and defined it at the start, as basically thee Holo EN ship at the start of the branch. After it became one of the primary focuses of her fans she needed to tone it down a bit. Especially because some of the fans did get really intense about it, and that entirely is on those fans. A person can enjoy a ship and be chill about it, being unhinged and taking the ship too far is entirely the fault of the people in the shipping sphere that get that way.
Also gacha games from 10ish years ago were into shipping so I wouldn't say that's new.
Dark_Tzitzimine May 4, 2025 1:26AM
I must say is impressive how is the only OG Holo ship to still have a on-stream presence while every other has either died or moved off-stream.
[deleted] May 6, 2025 5:53PM
Kiara still comments on some ship art on Twitter, it's just the people that are really into shipping take it way too far.