Gudako is going to have to explain the pregnancy to the medical team
TheRaptureKing
Oct 7, 2024 11:41PM
Mordred is going to be a DAD!!
juanelric
Oct 7, 2024 11:52PM
Gudako is getting pregnant from that handholding
Reirin
Oct 8, 2024 12:05AM
Oh how sweet!
FluffyCow
Oct 8, 2024 12:05AM
Dadred
Roodypatooti
Oct 8, 2024 1:04AM
Is this yuri?
FluffyCow
Oct 8, 2024 1:17AM
^More or less lol
naivety
Oct 10, 2024 6:00PM
^^ Yes. Mordred is a girl, same way Saber Blue or Saber Red are girls. It's just a Fate thing
Joddascus
Oct 11, 2024 10:15AM
Mordred’s gender is really a question of how you interpret her earlier scenes in apocrypha. I think there’s valid ground for her original portrayal to be some kind of transmasc situation, but in this case I think the artist is going for her being a girl.
FluffyCow
Oct 11, 2024 4:15PM
Fate's gender stuff is tends to be all over the place in general. For me I view Mordred as someone who is a woman but the concept of knighthood from her time focuses on men and masculinity, same with being the king. So you get a situation where Mordred doesn't want to be treated as a woman but rather as one of the guys at the round table because she's a knight. A similar situation to her parent, Artoria, disguising as a man and being historically recorded as a man, because for Artoria had to play the part of a man to be king. Which Morgan had Mordred disguise in full armor and play the part of knight to infiltrate the round table as the winning card up Morgan's sleeve. There's also a lot of complicated and not fully defined things with all of this. So I view Artoria and Mordred as women that delve into concepts of masculinity revolving around Knight and King. Additionally I think ship art like this is Yuri personally. Though I also think if people have a trans or related interpretation of Mordred that's valid as well. Mordred is a character where varied interpretation will happen for different people, and I think that's fine.
juanelric
Oct 11, 2024 6:16PM
^tl;dr Fate is a mess even at the best of times, so just enjoy your headcanons
last edited at Oct 11, 2024 6:18PM
FluffyCow
Oct 11, 2024 6:35PM
^Yeah I enjoy a lot of things about Fate, other things not so much, but that's more or less the gist. I know you and me have discussed / debated about Fate in the past, and pretty much came to the conclusion that it was better for us to agree to disagree. Leaning into part of what I said in my previous comment, people are going to have their own interpretations with various aspects of Fate, and that's fine.
DrJamesFox
Oct 11, 2024 7:54PM
Didn't Nasu just enjoy making historical figures into waifus? Never thought there was more to it than that.
Hylarn
Oct 11, 2024 8:13PM
It's more Takeuchi than Nasu, really
juanelric
Oct 11, 2024 8:32PM
Which one wanted to make swimsuit Passionlip or something like that again?
FluffyCow
Oct 11, 2024 9:49PM
@DrJamesFox I mean depends on how reductionist you want to be. I personally find various aspects of the lore and reasoning behind some of the gender shifts to be interesting.
@juanelric Nasu wants summer Passionlip, Takeuchi doesn't. Wada is Lip's artist and she got to draw Lip in a swimsuit for JP's most recent summer event as an NPC. Which IMO looked cute and wasn't super sexual. Takeuchi from what I heard doesn't want Lip to be a summer servant because her breasts are so big. Which doesn't really make sense when Wada literally proved you can draw Lip in a cute way while wearing a swimsuit with her NPC design...but oh well. Maybe one day Takeuchi will give up and we'll get her. I like Passionlip a lot in FGO, and I think she's a cinnamon-bun
nio_neka Oct 7, 2024 10:49PM
LEWD
FluffyCow Oct 7, 2024 11:10PM
Gudako is going to have to explain the pregnancy to the medical team
TheRaptureKing Oct 7, 2024 11:41PM
Mordred is going to be a DAD!!
juanelric Oct 7, 2024 11:52PM
Gudako is getting pregnant from that handholding
Reirin Oct 8, 2024 12:05AM
Oh how sweet!
FluffyCow Oct 8, 2024 12:05AM
Dadred
Roodypatooti Oct 8, 2024 1:04AM
Is this yuri?
FluffyCow Oct 8, 2024 1:17AM
^More or less lol
naivety Oct 10, 2024 6:00PM
^^ Yes. Mordred is a girl, same way Saber Blue or Saber Red are girls. It's just a Fate thing
Joddascus Oct 11, 2024 10:15AM
Mordred’s gender is really a question of how you interpret her earlier scenes in apocrypha. I think there’s valid ground for her original portrayal to be some kind of transmasc situation, but in this case I think the artist is going for her being a girl.
FluffyCow Oct 11, 2024 4:15PM
Fate's gender stuff is tends to be all over the place in general. For me I view Mordred as someone who is a woman but the concept of knighthood from her time focuses on men and masculinity, same with being the king. So you get a situation where Mordred doesn't want to be treated as a woman but rather as one of the guys at the round table because she's a knight. A similar situation to her parent, Artoria, disguising as a man and being historically recorded as a man, because for Artoria had to play the part of a man to be king. Which Morgan had Mordred disguise in full armor and play the part of knight to infiltrate the round table as the winning card up Morgan's sleeve. There's also a lot of complicated and not fully defined things with all of this. So I view Artoria and Mordred as women that delve into concepts of masculinity revolving around Knight and King. Additionally I think ship art like this is Yuri personally. Though I also think if people have a trans or related interpretation of Mordred that's valid as well. Mordred is a character where varied interpretation will happen for different people, and I think that's fine.
juanelric Oct 11, 2024 6:16PM
^tl;dr Fate is a mess even at the best of times, so just enjoy your headcanons
last edited at Oct 11, 2024 6:18PM
FluffyCow Oct 11, 2024 6:35PM
^Yeah I enjoy a lot of things about Fate, other things not so much, but that's more or less the gist. I know you and me have discussed / debated about Fate in the past, and pretty much came to the conclusion that it was better for us to agree to disagree. Leaning into part of what I said in my previous comment, people are going to have their own interpretations with various aspects of Fate, and that's fine.
DrJamesFox Oct 11, 2024 7:54PM
Didn't Nasu just enjoy making historical figures into waifus? Never thought there was more to it than that.
Hylarn Oct 11, 2024 8:13PM
It's more Takeuchi than Nasu, really
juanelric Oct 11, 2024 8:32PM
Which one wanted to make swimsuit Passionlip or something like that again?
FluffyCow Oct 11, 2024 9:49PM
@DrJamesFox I mean depends on how reductionist you want to be. I personally find various aspects of the lore and reasoning behind some of the gender shifts to be interesting.
@juanelric Nasu wants summer Passionlip, Takeuchi doesn't. Wada is Lip's artist and she got to draw Lip in a swimsuit for JP's most recent summer event as an NPC. Which IMO looked cute and wasn't super sexual. Takeuchi from what I heard doesn't want Lip to be a summer servant because her breasts are so big. Which doesn't really make sense when Wada literally proved you can draw Lip in a cute way while wearing a swimsuit with her NPC design...but oh well. Maybe one day Takeuchi will give up and we'll get her. I like Passionlip a lot in FGO, and I think she's a cinnamon-bun