There's literally no heterosexual interpretation possible, lets face it.
moglius
Oct 6, 2024 3:39PM
^ as if that ever stopped a story from becoming bait.
9inchnail5
Oct 6, 2024 5:05PM
Their hands are almost touching
Flip Flap
Oct 6, 2024 6:05PM
^Arai-sensei is absolutely not baiting with the green yuri, it's incredibly obvious. She has a history of making yuri manga, she's into queer culture (including Western media), she's almost certainly sapphic herself, and she's tagged some of her social media posts with Mitsuki and Aya with #wlw.
This shouldn't even be a conversation, but this constant paranoia about bait is poisoning yuri discourse and spilling into real world consequences.
BeanBeanKingdom
Oct 6, 2024 6:52PM
Love the puppet designs.
smirkingtyrant
Oct 7, 2024 2:00AM
^ who knows, it could be yuri bait. Well find out , just don’t sound so confident when we live in a capitalist world. Queers are sold out all the time, just look at Target.
Cute art
KomradeBicycle
Oct 7, 2024 2:49AM
^ Arai-sensei opened the Pandora's box of people wondering if this is bait, when she said that she would not call this work yuri. So I would not say that this is a baseless worry. (This is discussed in the thread for the series starting on the bottom of page 34.)
Yasako
Oct 7, 2024 3:18AM
it's not bait, but there likely won't ever be the catharsis of them getting together. In a way it's a worse hell than bait, because at least then you know it's just capital greed. Here it's just kinda frustrating a sapphic woman who put a lot of herself into this manga isn't letting her leads KITH....!!!
Kankneet
Oct 7, 2024 4:11AM
lol, people are getting paranoid over the green fluffy yuri romcom? Sometimes not reading the comments is a winning move.
Swag Wagon
Oct 7, 2024 4:36AM
It's like y'all magically forgot she made official future doujins of these two explicitly together
Zeesha
Oct 7, 2024 5:31PM
... misleading thumbnail
LilyBlueCat
Oct 8, 2024 10:34AM
This is where I start to get confused. Throughout all 100+ chapters, the relationship between Oosawa Mitsuki develops in a very yuri and romantic way. For Arai-sensei to say she wouldn't consider calling this work yuri seems quite odd. I'm not trying to criticize Arai-sensei, but I'm just confused by how she label the series compared to what it's actually about. A friendship manga isn't likely to develop into a yuri romance unless it's queerbaiting. I've read Arai-sensei's previous works, and they're yuri, so she clearly knows how to write in that genre. She knows what she's doing, like in My Female Friend Comes Home to Me Every Now and Again.
Swag Wagon
Oct 9, 2024 5:53PM
This is purely conjecture, I have absolutely zero knowledge of this is fully accurate, but this is how I understand it.
In Japan yuri as a genre has a lot of very specific tropes and cliches tied to it that specifically make it unappealing to wider audiences and that is what she's trying to distance herself from, not the GL aspect of it, just being pigeon-holed into a very specific set of rules or expectations for her story.
It's the same principle as whenever a modern horror movie is announced, it's generally expected to fail. But then you'll have genre busters like Cabin in the Woods or IT 2017.
last edited at Oct 9, 2024 5:57PM
FluffyCow
Oct 9, 2024 11:31PM
^I think Yuri/GL/WLW is whatever you make it. It's up to creators to define and redefine it and maybe even say this is a new take on what some might call Yuri, something along those lines. I've seen a Japanese manga creator/artist define herself as someone that makes Yuri, and I once saw her glad that girls were buying her works at a convention from what I remember, stating that's who she makes her works for.
I've seen all different kinds of words get used in all different kinds of ways over the years. It's fine if the creator of this doesn't want to define her work as Yuri, and I think it's fine if other creators want to call their work that. I just hope all of this doesn't lead to infighting and division no matter what terminology people use.
ninryu Oct 6, 2024 7:41AM
I think it may be yuri
luinthoron Oct 6, 2024 11:54AM
Nice. :D
Kojiro481 Oct 6, 2024 1:51PM
There's literally no heterosexual interpretation possible, lets face it.
moglius Oct 6, 2024 3:39PM
^ as if that ever stopped a story from becoming bait.
9inchnail5 Oct 6, 2024 5:05PM
Their hands are almost touching
Flip Flap Oct 6, 2024 6:05PM
^Arai-sensei is absolutely not baiting with the green yuri, it's incredibly obvious. She has a history of making yuri manga, she's into queer culture (including Western media), she's almost certainly sapphic herself, and she's tagged some of her social media posts with Mitsuki and Aya with #wlw.
This shouldn't even be a conversation, but this constant paranoia about bait is poisoning yuri discourse and spilling into real world consequences.
BeanBeanKingdom Oct 6, 2024 6:52PM
Love the puppet designs.
smirkingtyrant Oct 7, 2024 2:00AM
^ who knows, it could be yuri bait. Well find out , just don’t sound so confident when we live in a capitalist world. Queers are sold out all the time, just look at Target.
Cute art
KomradeBicycle Oct 7, 2024 2:49AM
^ Arai-sensei opened the Pandora's box of people wondering if this is bait, when she said that she would not call this work yuri. So I would not say that this is a baseless worry. (This is discussed in the thread for the series starting on the bottom of page 34.)
Yasako Oct 7, 2024 3:18AM
it's not bait, but there likely won't ever be the catharsis of them getting together. In a way it's a worse hell than bait, because at least then you know it's just capital greed. Here it's just kinda frustrating a sapphic woman who put a lot of herself into this manga isn't letting her leads KITH....!!!
Kankneet Oct 7, 2024 4:11AM
lol, people are getting paranoid over the green fluffy yuri romcom? Sometimes not reading the comments is a winning move.
Swag Wagon Oct 7, 2024 4:36AM
It's like y'all magically forgot she made official future doujins of these two explicitly together
Zeesha Oct 7, 2024 5:31PM
... misleading thumbnail
LilyBlueCat Oct 8, 2024 10:34AM
This is where I start to get confused. Throughout all 100+ chapters, the relationship between Oosawa Mitsuki develops in a very yuri and romantic way. For Arai-sensei to say she wouldn't consider calling this work yuri seems quite odd. I'm not trying to criticize Arai-sensei, but I'm just confused by how she label the series compared to what it's actually about. A friendship manga isn't likely to develop into a yuri romance unless it's queerbaiting. I've read Arai-sensei's previous works, and they're yuri, so she clearly knows how to write in that genre. She knows what she's doing, like in My Female Friend Comes Home to Me Every Now and Again.
Swag Wagon Oct 9, 2024 5:53PM
This is purely conjecture, I have absolutely zero knowledge of this is fully accurate, but this is how I understand it.
In Japan yuri as a genre has a lot of very specific tropes and cliches tied to it that specifically make it unappealing to wider audiences and that is what she's trying to distance herself from, not the GL aspect of it, just being pigeon-holed into a very specific set of rules or expectations for her story.
It's the same principle as whenever a modern horror movie is announced, it's generally expected to fail. But then you'll have genre busters like Cabin in the Woods or IT 2017.
last edited at Oct 9, 2024 5:57PM
FluffyCow Oct 9, 2024 11:31PM
^I think Yuri/GL/WLW is whatever you make it. It's up to creators to define and redefine it and maybe even say this is a new take on what some might call Yuri, something along those lines. I've seen a Japanese manga creator/artist define herself as someone that makes Yuri, and I once saw her glad that girls were buying her works at a convention from what I remember, stating that's who she makes her works for.
I've seen all different kinds of words get used in all different kinds of ways over the years. It's fine if the creator of this doesn't want to define her work as Yuri, and I think it's fine if other creators want to call their work that. I just hope all of this doesn't lead to infighting and division no matter what terminology people use.