^is that a bad thing?
She's still hot, maybe even hotter
Sanka
Nov 23, 2014 2:21PM
She's super hot :o I don't mind that she became tomboy because the author create great stylish clothes that's why she look cool and hot anyway :3
TheHaku
Nov 23, 2014 2:24PM
I don't mind tomboys. But when it gets to the point where you really can't tell if it's a girl unless they're naked/half clothed, it can be annoying.
ari-chan
Nov 23, 2014 11:15PM
I like how she has androgynous appeal. She's not quiet feminine and yet doesn't give the" man with a vagina" vibe.
Anticipate
Nov 23, 2014 11:42PM
Tomboys are pretty hot tbh
TheHaku
Nov 24, 2014 7:33AM
They are yeah.
But some artists tend to add them to a story as a fill in for a male character. Especially when the setting is an all-girls-school :P
It usually gives me the impression of gay at school - het after graduation. I'm glad to see this couple isn't like that though ^^
Vane
Dec 1, 2014 1:12AM
I'm with you Haku. I understand that some attacks to tomboy, some attacks to feminist, but in a girlxgirl relationship, I personally don't think that one of them need to represent a man as in some artist clinging to, and yes, she looks a lot cuter with long hair in my opinion.
aoinokansei
Dec 8, 2014 5:45AM
Some lesbians really are masculine/aandrogynous and it is very weird for lesbians to be so objectified in this conversation that the very existence of masc women is a "worn out" concept and their relationships aren't "real life." Are any of you people even lesbians and part of an lgbt/queer community??
Dark Ren
Dec 9, 2014 9:34AM
this is so......sexy......
Okami
Dec 12, 2014 11:03PM
I think she looks amazing either way..
flips
Dec 12, 2014 11:57PM
@TheHaku - They are not written to be stand ins for male characters, they are written as a type of female character.
Sometimes they are written as stand ins, sometimes they are not.
Chuuchii
Dec 17, 2014 2:54PM
She looks hot either way. But I have to agree with @YuriShu12 and @aoinokansei. There are lesbians in some Manga that is boyish and has a trait of a guy, but that doesn't mean they are stand-in for Males. I prefer both though, Tomboys often looks cooler. But then again Woman X Woman are hot. :D lol I'm no lesbian so I'm in no position to categorize them. I simply LOVE YURI.
aoinokansei
Dec 20, 2014 2:36AM
I am an androgynous lesbian, both my identity and relationships are real life. I appreciate seeing masculine/androgynous lesbians in manga. We are not all blushing femmes.
kansak
Apr 4, 2015 7:10PM
I prefer her long hair
[deleted]
Oct 18, 2015 9:08PM
Where does she look like a man?
Nezchan
Oct 18, 2015 9:27PM
It's that elbow. Totally a butch elbow.
Selene
Jan 6, 2016 1:42AM
She was a tomboy from the start. That was obvious from page one of the manga. And goddess take me if she isn't the hottest manga/anime character I've seen in years. fans self
pulpolar
Jan 19, 2016 5:02PM
I agree with Selene. She was a "tomboy" from the start. She only cut her hair.
Rainbowanime
Feb 12, 2016 9:04PM
Mm, I'd take a slice of that ass :3
yasukokyouko
Apr 29, 2016 12:55AM
thank you, @aoinokansei ... these comments kill me, but i guess what can be expect from straight people lol.
but seriously, butch/femme isn't "worn out." women who are masculine are not "worn out." we're real people. saying that both women being feminine "is more like a real life lesbian couple too" is so ignorant. lesbians and bi women come in all shapes and sizes and styles. a lot are butch. MANY are in butch/femme relationships--this dynamic has a integral part in lesbian history. i'm butch and my girlfriend femme, and i know many lesbian couples like this. this is just how we are ... and also the other thing about the idea that butch/femme is "worn out" is that i just don't see it? i never see butch women in manga, or any other type of show. lesbians are always feminine in fiction usually to appeal to straight people. seeing a butch girl like sun jing in their story was really cool and meaningful to me. butch lesbians are only represented usually as jokes. butch women don't have to ~look like women~ to please you. and a "man with a vagina" is called a trans man and there's nothing wrong with being one.
on a lighter note, she's really hot this way and i'm glad she comes more into being herself in the future.
also on a lighter note, i feel really bad for the person who says they're not into haruka from sailor moon because ... come on. she's haruka tenoh.
last edited at Apr 29, 2016 1:13AM
Nezchan
Apr 29, 2016 9:01AM
^ You can apply pretty much all of that to Ymir from AoT too. So much "looks like a man, wtf".
Ratte
Apr 29, 2016 10:40AM
I would take both of them but they wouldn't take me.
sobs
[deleted]
Dec 12, 2017 3:23AM
As an androgynous lesbian these comments can be pretty hurtful. I tend to relate to the tomboy characters and for that reason it's possibly my favourite tag, although I can agree that sometimes the characters are unrealistically masc. I'd like more short tomboys and taller femmes so I don't feel so... Tiny.
Kiri
Dec 23, 2017 4:58AM
wow, tanjiu's art really has improved a lot! I like how she draws sun jing now. Also, some of the comments here are really terrible. I hear a lot about butch lesbians in media being cliche but yuri manga specially is filled with femme looking characters so... i dont know what this people have been reading. If you wouldn't say feminine characters are cliche (because thats stupid), the same should be true for more androgynous ones.
drifter375
Mar 21, 2018 2:27PM
Another andro lesbian here. Totally butch. 5'9" with muscles but I have a pretty face and people are drawn to my cool charismatic nature. You'll never find me apologizing for being mistaken for a man from up close or behind, even when I wear makeup I just look like a prettier andro person. I want more tomboys like this one. It's totally realistic. She's not even that masculine to be honest. You guys should try to experience some media aimed at real lesbians before you go around condemning lesbian/yuri media for not being heteronormative enough lol.
Beefaroni
Mar 17, 2023 8:36PM
I love the confidence she gives off here. Like "Yeah, I know I'm hot, what of it". Sheeeeeeeeesh
biteme Nov 23, 2014 1:10PM
She became such a tomboy =/
kickap00 Nov 23, 2014 1:59PM
^is that a bad thing?
She's still hot, maybe even hotter
Sanka Nov 23, 2014 2:21PM
She's super hot :o I don't mind that she became tomboy because the author create great stylish clothes that's why she look cool and hot anyway :3
TheHaku Nov 23, 2014 2:24PM
I don't mind tomboys. But when it gets to the point where you really can't tell if it's a girl unless they're naked/half clothed, it can be annoying.
ari-chan Nov 23, 2014 11:15PM
I like how she has androgynous appeal. She's not quiet feminine and yet doesn't give the" man with a vagina" vibe.
Anticipate Nov 23, 2014 11:42PM
Tomboys are pretty hot tbh
TheHaku Nov 24, 2014 7:33AM
They are yeah.
But some artists tend to add them to a story as a fill in for a male character. Especially when the setting is an all-girls-school :P
It usually gives me the impression of gay at school - het after graduation. I'm glad to see this couple isn't like that though ^^
Vane Dec 1, 2014 1:12AM
I'm with you Haku. I understand that some attacks to tomboy, some attacks to feminist, but in a girlxgirl relationship, I personally don't think that one of them need to represent a man as in some artist clinging to, and yes, she looks a lot cuter with long hair in my opinion.
aoinokansei Dec 8, 2014 5:45AM
Some lesbians really are masculine/aandrogynous and it is very weird for lesbians to be so objectified in this conversation that the very existence of masc women is a "worn out" concept and their relationships aren't "real life." Are any of you people even lesbians and part of an lgbt/queer community??
Dark Ren Dec 9, 2014 9:34AM
this is so......sexy......
Okami Dec 12, 2014 11:03PM
I think she looks amazing either way..
flips Dec 12, 2014 11:57PM
Sometimes they are written as stand ins, sometimes they are not.
Chuuchii Dec 17, 2014 2:54PM
She looks hot either way. But I have to agree with @YuriShu12 and @aoinokansei. There are lesbians in some Manga that is boyish and has a trait of a guy, but that doesn't mean they are stand-in for Males. I prefer both though, Tomboys often looks cooler. But then again Woman X Woman are hot. :D lol I'm no lesbian so I'm in no position to categorize them. I simply LOVE YURI.
aoinokansei Dec 20, 2014 2:36AM
I am an androgynous lesbian, both my identity and relationships are real life. I appreciate seeing masculine/androgynous lesbians in manga. We are not all blushing femmes.
kansak Apr 4, 2015 7:10PM
I prefer her long hair
[deleted] Oct 18, 2015 9:08PM
Where does she look like a man?
Nezchan Oct 18, 2015 9:27PM
It's that elbow. Totally a butch elbow.
Selene Jan 6, 2016 1:42AM
She was a tomboy from the start. That was obvious from page one of the manga. And goddess take me if she isn't the hottest manga/anime character I've seen in years. fans self
pulpolar Jan 19, 2016 5:02PM
I agree with Selene. She was a "tomboy" from the start. She only cut her hair.
Rainbowanime Feb 12, 2016 9:04PM
Mm, I'd take a slice of that ass :3
yasukokyouko Apr 29, 2016 12:55AM
thank you, @aoinokansei ... these comments kill me, but i guess what can be expect from straight people lol.
but seriously, butch/femme isn't "worn out." women who are masculine are not "worn out." we're real people. saying that both women being feminine "is more like a real life lesbian couple too" is so ignorant. lesbians and bi women come in all shapes and sizes and styles. a lot are butch. MANY are in butch/femme relationships--this dynamic has a integral part in lesbian history. i'm butch and my girlfriend femme, and i know many lesbian couples like this. this is just how we are ... and also the other thing about the idea that butch/femme is "worn out" is that i just don't see it? i never see butch women in manga, or any other type of show. lesbians are always feminine in fiction usually to appeal to straight people. seeing a butch girl like sun jing in their story was really cool and meaningful to me. butch lesbians are only represented usually as jokes. butch women don't have to ~look like women~ to please you. and a "man with a vagina" is called a trans man and there's nothing wrong with being one.
on a lighter note, she's really hot this way and i'm glad she comes more into being herself in the future.
also on a lighter note, i feel really bad for the person who says they're not into haruka from sailor moon because ... come on. she's haruka tenoh.
last edited at Apr 29, 2016 1:13AM
Nezchan Apr 29, 2016 9:01AM
^ You can apply pretty much all of that to Ymir from AoT too. So much "looks like a man, wtf".
Ratte Apr 29, 2016 10:40AM
I would take both of them but they wouldn't take me.
sobs
[deleted] Dec 12, 2017 3:23AM
As an androgynous lesbian these comments can be pretty hurtful. I tend to relate to the tomboy characters and for that reason it's possibly my favourite tag, although I can agree that sometimes the characters are unrealistically masc. I'd like more short tomboys and taller femmes so I don't feel so... Tiny.
Kiri Dec 23, 2017 4:58AM
wow, tanjiu's art really has improved a lot! I like how she draws sun jing now. Also, some of the comments here are really terrible. I hear a lot about butch lesbians in media being cliche but yuri manga specially is filled with femme looking characters so... i dont know what this people have been reading. If you wouldn't say feminine characters are cliche (because thats stupid), the same should be true for more androgynous ones.
drifter375 Mar 21, 2018 2:27PM
Another andro lesbian here. Totally butch. 5'9" with muscles but I have a pretty face and people are drawn to my cool charismatic nature. You'll never find me apologizing for being mistaken for a man from up close or behind, even when I wear makeup I just look like a prettier andro person. I want more tomboys like this one. It's totally realistic. She's not even that masculine to be honest. You guys should try to experience some media aimed at real lesbians before you go around condemning lesbian/yuri media for not being heteronormative enough lol.
Beefaroni Mar 17, 2023 8:36PM
I love the confidence she gives off here. Like "Yeah, I know I'm hot, what of it". Sheeeeeeeeesh