Linterdiction Sep 24, 2022 7:07AM

wait isnt shiver a guy

FilthyFlow Sep 24, 2022 7:12AM

^Shiver's confirmed a girl; in addition to in-game dialogue, someone actually bothered to write to Nintendo themselves to ask about Shiver's identity.

Apparently (and this is just based on a poor machine translation I did of a japanese tweet, so I may have misinterpreted something) Shiver is deliberately made to be androgynous because her character is based off Kabuki theatre, where actors were traditionally expected to play roles of the opposite gender (most well known were men playing the roles of women after female actors were banned, but Kabuki was originally an all-female thing).

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Linterdiction Sep 25, 2022 5:43AM

thats so sick, thanks for sharing

Evitron Sep 25, 2022 7:04PM

reportedly shiver also alternates between male and female pronouns when speaking in japanese, so it's entirely possible that shiver is some manner of genderfluid. that's just what i've heard though, i have no hard evidence to back this up

FilthyFlow Sep 25, 2022 11:38PM

^From a quick look up it seems that Shiver refers to herself by the feminine pronoun "uchi" in Japanese so I suspect you've been had.

Hylarn Sep 26, 2022 6:04AM

^From a quick look up it seems that Shiver refers to herself by the feminine pronoun "uchi" in Japanese so I suspect you've been had.

'Uchi' isn't gendered

ShortHairedCrow Sep 26, 2022 12:43PM

Shiver is female, uses female pronouns, and is referred to as she/her in-game several times. Not genderfluid or nonbinary. Confirmed by Nintendo and the game itself.

ArsenicCatnip Sep 28, 2022 12:06AM

i dont know if shivers a guy or a girl, but i still headcanon them as non-binary no matter what

Matchariyu Sep 28, 2022 8:23PM

^^^i dont know too much on the issue, but uchi IS a feminine pronoun, despite it not being "gendered". People can use guys and dudes to refer to both genders but people will still associate it with males.
atleast thats what ive picked up from accidentally witnessing like 100 splatoon arguments on twitter lmao

Hylarn Sep 28, 2022 9:10PM

Uh, 'uchi' is a personal pronoun. You use it to refer to yourself. It's more feminine than masculine, but I've definitely come across male characters using it

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