i didn't watch the og season where these three appeared... Can someone explain the yuri part to me
GrimEater
Jun 11, 2019 12:29AM
?
BugDevil
Jun 11, 2019 12:50AM
^^Not sure what explanation you need... some people shipped Usagi with Seiya. That's pretty much it.
Deltasa333
Jun 11, 2019 2:04AM
@Sup As I recall, Seiya is gender fluid. They are male as normal person and female as transformed into sailor.
BugDevil
Jun 11, 2019 2:09AM
^....what? Seiya is a girl even untransformed. Just because she wears male clothes doesn't mean she is gender fluid.
Omega Deuse
Jun 11, 2019 2:19AM
^....what? Seiya is a girl even untransformed. Just because she wears male clothes doesn't mean she is gender fluid.
I've only read the summaries of those episodes/chapters but that might be an adaptation difference, though I forget if it was between the manga and anime or due to translation.
SmolBoiYazawa
Jun 11, 2019 5:19AM
Seiya is a reverse trap.
Jesus, we had females dressed as males 20 whole years before we'd still our first actual trap.
blopa
Jun 11, 2019 8:03AM
@BugDevil The anime ... took some liberties regarding them. At least in the dubbed version in Spanish.
BugDevil
Jun 11, 2019 8:29AM
^I mean.... the localisation turned Neptune and Uranus into cousins, so what do I know? Maybe they really did lose their minds and pretended Seiya was a guy during school.
Ktulu007
Jun 11, 2019 3:08PM
@Sup Seiya and her friends are cross-dressing girls in a singing group.
Seiya also openly has romantic feelings towards Usagi and spends the better part of STARS flirting with her.
Omega Deuse
Jun 11, 2019 8:26PM
Jesus, we had females dressed as males 20 whole years before we'd still our first actual trap.
90s anime were oddly progressive. The Major, from Ghost in the Shell, is a lesbian cybog in a poly relationship. She also has a close relationship with her male co-star that doesn't turn into a romance and doesn't regularly require rescue. I think that show might still be progressive.
MournfulLust
Jun 11, 2019 11:24PM
^what do you mean be progressive?
Omega Deuse
Jun 12, 2019 2:00AM
^what do you mean be progressive?
Including themes and characters that break with traditional norms, with a more inclusive and equal view/representation of things like gender and sexuality. Typically, this is somewhat relative to when a work was produced. For example, Star Trek having an interracial couple kiss was progressive for its time, but wouldn't be particularly shocking now. GitS was so far ahead of its time that it still compares well with shows that are currently breaking boundaries, like Steven Universe. Though, obviously, those two shows have very different focuses and takes on certain topics.
Sup
Jun 12, 2019 5:51AM
guys, i just wanted someone to point me the theme of the picture, pls don't start going at each other i just haven't watch the season these guys appeared in. the first few did that just fine
LesbianPirate
Jun 12, 2019 7:46AM
all yall need to shut the hell up this shit is cute
elevown
Jun 12, 2019 10:10AM
^^ As they already explained- looking into the room dressed in a guy uniform has a crush on Usagi. That is the yuri and point of the pic. That simple.
Urashi C. Pin
Jun 12, 2019 10:44AM
I love this alot
MarqFJA87
Jun 12, 2019 1:19PM
It's not a localization thing, the Sailor Stars really do transform into males in the '90s anime instead of simply cross-dressing. No idea why they did that to begin with, it's not like cross-dressing girls were unknown or unpopular at the time.
Nezchan
Jun 12, 2019 2:04PM
As I recall, the Starlights had the opposite deal from the Senshi. Their fighting forms were their real identities, where the other form was for a specific purpose. So regardless of what body they went to school in, they were alien women at heart.
YuzuYuri
Jun 13, 2019 10:14AM
^lmao, you win.
I actually like this ship better than the main. No hard feelings, just mo.
Nene
Jun 13, 2019 6:19PM
Naoko-sensei always claimed that the Starlights were always female, in any form, and that their "male" personas were simply disguises.
[deleted]
Jun 14, 2019 12:49AM
I read somwhere in the anime they're male and turn into ladies when transformed. In the manga they were always female aliens cross dressing as males on earth though.
Guess Seiya just fell in love with Usagi somehow when Usagi had some love troubles with Mamoru at that time(i hope i remember correctly?)
Kankneet
Jun 14, 2019 2:01AM
Mamoru left Japan to study abroad and got killed by Galaxia. Usagi didn't know this and feared he'd dumped her without saying anything.
elevown
Jun 14, 2019 5:59AM
I think the confusion is partly in the westernization - if you read up on the sailormoon wiki etc it clearly says they are all female- the pretending to be men is just part of their disguise.
UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
Jun 14, 2019 4:33PM
It is not as confusing as some people make it here. The manga has the Three Lights as females with female bodies, both in civilian and in Senshi forms. They basically crossdress when posing as normal people. The 90's anime then took this and changed it so they have actual male bodies in civilian form, and Takeuchi was not a fan of this editorial decision.
As to why they did this, well, we can only speculate, but consider this: it was the 90's, and a prominent feature of that entire season was Seiya romancing Usagi (before anyone brings up Haruka and Michiru, their romance was something of a background thing, only expressed in rare innuendos and rose petals flying across the screen). Seiya's pursuit of Usagi, and the latter nearly reciprocating on numerous occasions, was front-and-centre. It also happens that most of the romancing scenes take place when Seiya is in her civilian form. You also have to take into account that this was a mainstream anime, massively popular back then, and not really advertised as yuri.
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Nezchan
Jun 14, 2019 8:58PM
To be fair, aside from the first six episodes which were a brilliant postscript on Super S, the rest of the Sailor Stars anime was mostly crap. It was pretty obvious when Takeuchi wasn't actively involved since both the writing and animation quality dropped sharply, and only picked up again near the end when she got back on board. And that's coming from someone who's long-time handle on the internet is a tribute to Sailor Iron Mouse.
Sup Jun 10, 2019 11:42PM
i didn't watch the og season where these three appeared... Can someone explain the yuri part to me
GrimEater Jun 11, 2019 12:29AM
?
BugDevil Jun 11, 2019 12:50AM
^^Not sure what explanation you need... some people shipped Usagi with Seiya. That's pretty much it.
Deltasa333 Jun 11, 2019 2:04AM
@Sup As I recall, Seiya is gender fluid. They are male as normal person and female as transformed into sailor.
BugDevil Jun 11, 2019 2:09AM
^....what? Seiya is a girl even untransformed. Just because she wears male clothes doesn't mean she is gender fluid.
Omega Deuse Jun 11, 2019 2:19AM
I've only read the summaries of those episodes/chapters but that might be an adaptation difference, though I forget if it was between the manga and anime or due to translation.
SmolBoiYazawa Jun 11, 2019 5:19AM
Seiya is a reverse trap.
Jesus, we had females dressed as males 20 whole years before we'd still our first actual trap.
blopa Jun 11, 2019 8:03AM
@BugDevil The anime ... took some liberties regarding them. At least in the dubbed version in Spanish.
BugDevil Jun 11, 2019 8:29AM
^I mean.... the localisation turned Neptune and Uranus into cousins, so what do I know? Maybe they really did lose their minds and pretended Seiya was a guy during school.
Ktulu007 Jun 11, 2019 3:08PM
@Sup Seiya and her friends are cross-dressing girls in a singing group.
Seiya also openly has romantic feelings towards Usagi and spends the better part of STARS flirting with her.
Omega Deuse Jun 11, 2019 8:26PM
90s anime were oddly progressive. The Major, from Ghost in the Shell, is a lesbian cybog in a poly relationship. She also has a close relationship with her male co-star that doesn't turn into a romance and doesn't regularly require rescue. I think that show might still be progressive.
MournfulLust Jun 11, 2019 11:24PM
^what do you mean be progressive?
Omega Deuse Jun 12, 2019 2:00AM
Including themes and characters that break with traditional norms, with a more inclusive and equal view/representation of things like gender and sexuality. Typically, this is somewhat relative to when a work was produced. For example, Star Trek having an interracial couple kiss was progressive for its time, but wouldn't be particularly shocking now. GitS was so far ahead of its time that it still compares well with shows that are currently breaking boundaries, like Steven Universe. Though, obviously, those two shows have very different focuses and takes on certain topics.
Sup Jun 12, 2019 5:51AM
guys, i just wanted someone to point me the theme of the picture, pls don't start going at each other i just haven't watch the season these guys appeared in. the first few did that just fine
LesbianPirate Jun 12, 2019 7:46AM
all yall need to shut the hell up this shit is cute
elevown Jun 12, 2019 10:10AM
^^ As they already explained- looking into the room dressed in a guy uniform has a crush on Usagi. That is the yuri and point of the pic. That simple.
Urashi C. Pin Jun 12, 2019 10:44AM
I love this alot
MarqFJA87 Jun 12, 2019 1:19PM
It's not a localization thing, the Sailor Stars really do transform into males in the '90s anime instead of simply cross-dressing. No idea why they did that to begin with, it's not like cross-dressing girls were unknown or unpopular at the time.
Nezchan Jun 12, 2019 2:04PM
As I recall, the Starlights had the opposite deal from the Senshi. Their fighting forms were their real identities, where the other form was for a specific purpose. So regardless of what body they went to school in, they were alien women at heart.
YuzuYuri Jun 13, 2019 10:14AM
^lmao, you win.
I actually like this ship better than the main. No hard feelings, just mo.
Nene Jun 13, 2019 6:19PM
Naoko-sensei always claimed that the Starlights were always female, in any form, and that their "male" personas were simply disguises.
[deleted] Jun 14, 2019 12:49AM
I read somwhere in the anime they're male and turn into ladies when transformed. In the manga they were always female aliens cross dressing as males on earth though.
Guess Seiya just fell in love with Usagi somehow when Usagi had some love troubles with Mamoru at that time(i hope i remember correctly?)
Kankneet Jun 14, 2019 2:01AM
Mamoru left Japan to study abroad and got killed by Galaxia. Usagi didn't know this and feared he'd dumped her without saying anything.
elevown Jun 14, 2019 5:59AM
I think the confusion is partly in the westernization - if you read up on the sailormoon wiki etc it clearly says they are all female- the pretending to be men is just part of their disguise.
UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins Jun 14, 2019 4:33PM
It is not as confusing as some people make it here. The manga has the Three Lights as females with female bodies, both in civilian and in Senshi forms. They basically crossdress when posing as normal people. The 90's anime then took this and changed it so they have actual male bodies in civilian form, and Takeuchi was not a fan of this editorial decision.
As to why they did this, well, we can only speculate, but consider this: it was the 90's, and a prominent feature of that entire season was Seiya romancing Usagi (before anyone brings up Haruka and Michiru, their romance was something of a background thing, only expressed in rare innuendos and rose petals flying across the screen). Seiya's pursuit of Usagi, and the latter nearly reciprocating on numerous occasions, was front-and-centre. It also happens that most of the romancing scenes take place when Seiya is in her civilian form. You also have to take into account that this was a mainstream anime, massively popular back then, and not really advertised as yuri.
last edited at Jun 14, 2019 4:36PM
Nezchan Jun 14, 2019 8:58PM
To be fair, aside from the first six episodes which were a brilliant postscript on Super S, the rest of the Sailor Stars anime was mostly crap. It was pretty obvious when Takeuchi wasn't actively involved since both the writing and animation quality dropped sharply, and only picked up again near the end when she got back on board. And that's coming from someone who's long-time handle on the internet is a tribute to Sailor Iron Mouse.