The French aren't even sober before at least drinking one glass of wine in the morning.
random
Feb 27, 2019 9:47AM
Marie was Austrian tho. Then again, the Germans and beer...
BugDevil
Feb 27, 2019 9:49AM
^Got married to the French King = French. Pretty clear cut.
random
Feb 27, 2019 10:40AM
^^Quite a bit of the populace disagreed, or came to, as likely did her various enemies among the upper crust (though that'd have been a minor detail to them as the aristocracy was very international).
yuri n wine
Feb 27, 2019 4:19PM
Yuri and wine, excellent choice
SushiKnight
Mar 1, 2019 1:50PM
^^international and intrafamilial :P
random
Mar 1, 2019 4:40PM
^That was really just the top "princely" layer, who between considerations of dynastic strategy and the need to marry someone of roughly equal rank tended to have pretty sharply curtailed pool of potential spouses. The middle and lower aristocracy were numerous enough - and regularly got enough "new blood" from elevated commoners - to mostly dodge the consanguinity problem. (Ancien regime France actually had one of the most porous barriers between the lower aristocracy and upper commoners of its day; to caricature only slightly any schmuck with the wealth and property to back it up could just declare himself a minor noble and get accepted as such, albeit with the usual social snubbing of arrivistes ofc.)
BugDevil
Mar 1, 2019 5:58PM
Moral of the story: Don't trigger @random's history boner.
SushiKnight
Mar 1, 2019 7:20PM
But I like random's history boner. I want all that knowledge inside me.
BugDevil Feb 27, 2019 2:46AM
The French aren't even sober before at least drinking one glass of wine in the morning.
random Feb 27, 2019 9:47AM
Marie was Austrian tho. Then again, the Germans and beer...
BugDevil Feb 27, 2019 9:49AM
^Got married to the French King = French. Pretty clear cut.
random Feb 27, 2019 10:40AM
^^Quite a bit of the populace disagreed, or came to, as likely did her various enemies among the upper crust (though that'd have been a minor detail to them as the aristocracy was very international).
yuri n wine Feb 27, 2019 4:19PM
Yuri and wine, excellent choice
SushiKnight Mar 1, 2019 1:50PM
^^international and intrafamilial :P
random Mar 1, 2019 4:40PM
^That was really just the top "princely" layer, who between considerations of dynastic strategy and the need to marry someone of roughly equal rank tended to have pretty sharply curtailed pool of potential spouses. The middle and lower aristocracy were numerous enough - and regularly got enough "new blood" from elevated commoners - to mostly dodge the consanguinity problem. (Ancien regime France actually had one of the most porous barriers between the lower aristocracy and upper commoners of its day; to caricature only slightly any schmuck with the wealth and property to back it up could just declare himself a minor noble and get accepted as such, albeit with the usual social snubbing of arrivistes ofc.)
BugDevil Mar 1, 2019 5:58PM
Moral of the story: Don't trigger @random's history boner.
SushiKnight Mar 1, 2019 7:20PM
But I like random's history boner. I want all that knowledge inside me.
random Mar 1, 2019 8:26PM
juanelric Mar 3, 2019 1:45AM
I thought that was Shin from Idolmaster lol