Yes we need again string shippers to make them canon!
Sup
Nov 25, 2018 7:33AM
Fuck yeah, Catradora is here!
SulliMike23
Nov 25, 2018 8:00PM
I had a feeling that this pairing would be on the rise the moment the new She-Ra premiered on Netflix.
BlazingSeraph
Nov 26, 2018 4:40PM
Catradora endgame tho
MagiMaki
Nov 26, 2018 6:53PM
I really hope this will be a thing in the next seasons. =v=
BugDevil
Nov 27, 2018 3:24AM
I'm surprised about the positive reaction here. Everyone under the sun seems to hate the new She-Ra show.
Then again, shipping is disconnected from the quality of the show.
Sweet Dangus McGee
Nov 27, 2018 1:31PM
A lot of people are very fond of She-Ra nowadays. By everyone under the sun you mean the cavalcade of freaks, creeps and alt-right "rationals" who took a show with character design not horny or directly appealing to their tastes as an affront on god and man. And also Voltron fans,
Timbla
Nov 27, 2018 3:00PM
Already, that was quick
BugDevil
Nov 27, 2018 4:15PM
^^Or bad character designs are just bad. Just a possibility. The creators over-corrected the terrible 80s glam designs into the opposite direction so hard that they ended up with this bad stuff. Can't we have a decent middle?
That is of course less important than the writing. I only watched a few episodes, so I won't judge. Many people with more time on their hands already dissected everything anyway. Let's just say that your generalization's even worse than mine lol
BlazingSeraph
Nov 27, 2018 6:16PM
I'm sorry but who are you listening to saying that???? Literally everyone who isn't a whiny manbaby on the internet has had really positive reactions towards the new She-Ra. If you were just watching those Youtube videos that were talking about how they were DONE with She-Ra then like, of course you're gonna see people think it's bad. The people reviewing it on Youtube are all older men who the show was not intended for at all.
The new She-Ra has a wide variety of body types and ethnicities just like how it is in real life and I've seen the show be praised because of it a lot more than criticized by regular people. The amount of tweets I've seen from parents saying that their children loved the show and how both their sons and daughters actually wanted to watch and didn't fight over the remote is way more important than whatever neo-reactionaries say. The show is literally a kids' show that is aimed towards younger girls and teens and the character designs and body types are the kinds that kids would actually want to see. And let me say again, the show is trying to promote positive body image for kids and it's succeeding. I've already seen people talk about how seeing Glimmer and Scorpia and Netossa etc made them really happy because they don't want kids thinking that their body type is wrong. And that they wished they had a show like this when they were younger. So yeah, I have no clue who you're listening to but there's way more positive responses than whatever you're currently getting.
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BlazingSeraph
Nov 27, 2018 6:25PM
@GeneralJ You should totally watch it, it was great. There's a lot of representation which is always a plus but the actual plot is pretty good too. It's still the first season so it's not exactly gonna be the best, as 1st seasons tend to go for Dreamworks shows, but it sets up the world of Etheria and the cast of characters nicely. Also it's a rebel force vs fascist government war plotline and honestly, I always find those interesting. It's especially cool cause the main character, Adora, is a former soldier of the Horde (the fascist regime) and she defects and joins the Rebellion. And then there's Adora and Catra's entire relationship which is a center point of the plot. Also they tell a good abuse survivor story in both Catra and Adora so like, the plot and story is solid. There's obviously some things they could've done better, but all in all, it's a well thought out show that sets up for further conflict in future episodes and actually makes you care about the characters.
lucario14
Nov 27, 2018 10:05PM
Before seeing it i saw some reviews just trashing it and at the same time it was trending on tumblr and i thought yup i'm watching it :D I expected some politically fueled garbage and...I saw none. Honestly it really wasn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. I especially liked the relationship dynamic between these two characters. The character design is pretty child like and less defined and pretty lazy but overall...not bad.
MagiMaki
Nov 28, 2018 3:54AM
I thought it would be tainted by crazy tumblr people as well, but it was pretty good on a silly, slightly cringy level. What I expect from something He-Man like. The male characters were funny and I'm rooting for Catra and Adora - their relationship is pretty interesting. Too many characters in the first season though.
BugDevil
Nov 28, 2018 4:19AM
@BlazingSeraph
As I said, I didn't watch much so I can't talk about the plot. I don't think it's very original, but what is these days? It's probably fine.
The character designs tho... jeez. You are taking what parents say as the actual opinions of their children. Kids DONT want to see "realistic" body types (maybe teens do, sometimes). That was never a thing. Fantasy idealizes for a reason. Just because the parents are happy that this is a thing doesn't mean the children care. They'd like the show either way, designs be damned. Otherwise the original She-Ra and He-man would have never gotten any fans with their terrible designs and subpar plots lol
And I am not actually defending the terrible 80s glam BS, but some "realistic" body types aren't realistic at all on average. Also gotta love the freckles = realistic stereotype. Because as we all know, 9/10 kids have freckles.
The one thing I really wanted them to change about She-Ra is her stupidly long hair... and that's the only part they kept for the new series lol
Also gotta love that anyone who disagrees with you is "a whiny manbaby", despite the fact that many women (old fans of the show) didn't like it either. It's pathetic to deflect criticism by throwing the "it's all old men" card around, don't you think?
BlazingSeraph
Nov 28, 2018 3:30PM
@BugDevil no offense but you're not a girl are you? Legit the only people I've seen criticize the show so far are men so I'm saying a generalization based on my own experiences. And I'm actually actively looking for She-Ra stuff on a constant basis, so I think I know more about what people who watch the show are saying. And pretty much every girl/woman/LGBT person I've talked to have said they love the designs and that's who they're aiming towards in the first place. No offense but this show isn't for you and just because it doesn't pander to what you think people are supposed to look like doesn't mean the designs are bad. I have no clue where you live, but in America, the body types shown in the show are literally the body types I see everywhere and I live in the capital city of my state.
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BugDevil
Nov 28, 2018 3:42PM
@BlazingSeraph
No offense, but my gender is irrelevant to the topic. As should be pretty much any reviewer's, but I guess that's too open minded. So yeah, I was basing my (clearly exaggerated) statement on my experiences as well. I knew there are people who like it. But I won't ignore and stamp off people who dislike it either. No offense but just because a couple of people like the designs doesn't mean they are beyond critique. No offense x 3, but America isn't the only country or culture in the world. I don't remember, but was it She-Ra, princess of America? lol No offense x 4, but isn't the target audience supposed to be children? I know a lot of children (working part time at a day care center sometimes) and to nobody's surprise they want to watch pretty much any cartoon on TV. Children are kinda notorious for that. They enjoyed stuff like Winx Club with their ridiculous Barbie doll body types just as much as some exaggerated designs in Fairly Oddparents.
In the end you just talked to some people with the same mindset as you about what they want for their children, rather than actually thinking critically about the content itself. But hey, that might just be a misunderstanding. We wouldn't wanna generalize everyone who disagrees with us, right?
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BlazingSeraph
Nov 28, 2018 5:48PM
@BugDevil Okay I'll link some articles talking about it and let's see this bubble you're talking about. You can literally just Google She-Ra review and the majority of them are also positive but sure, I'm talking to only people who have the same mindset. It's not like it could possibly be you who's doing it.
I'll even link Rotten Tomatoes since it has a 100% critic review and 72% audience score despite it being review bombed the day it came out by people who gave it a 1/2 star without even watching.
EDIT: I'm also not gonna answer anymore because this is the second time you've literally just completely missed the original argument and started arguing semantics and terms instead of the actual point. And for everyone else, you're welcome for the free drama. tips fedora Also watch the show, it's legit good as these reviews point out.
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BugDevil
Nov 30, 2018 9:28AM
^What drama? Oh right the one you created for no reason. This is the second time you acted like a drama queen for no reason and failed to understand basic conversation flow or argumentation. Like hell I'm going to deal with that lol
Ajeak
Nov 30, 2018 10:38PM
Woooow, we can never have anything nice without massive debate. ^BugDevil if you don't like it don't watch it or seek out content for it, just let the people who enjoy it enjoy it. ^BlazingSeraph calm down a little it's okay for people not to like it, not everyone who dislikes the new She-Ra is some straw man who hates women and progress, I can sympathize that the animation style isnt to everyone's tastes and it's vastly different from the original She-Ra, which is not a bad thing, it just is.
BugDevil
Dec 1, 2018 8:55AM
^And where did I say I didn't like it? You gotta follow your own advice about strawmaning people.
LoveHeart
Dec 1, 2018 10:58AM
People you are both pretty , stop arguing in the comments of a picture.
Adora knows Catra weakness ^^
Ajeak
Dec 1, 2018 9:03PM
I really hope this does become canon
Bugpope
Dec 4, 2018 3:41AM
BugDevil just seems to enjoy hating things for the sake of it, and then flips out if you try to reason with him. Don't take it seriously.
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Wanderer
Apr 28, 2019 8:56PM
Jeez how did i miss this whole debacle? I do agree with BugDevil in some little bits where the character designs are a bit iffy. (Glimmer's is my least favourite tbh, she looks like an eggplant). Most of the critics I've seen are mixed, (all white, and above the age of 30 tho), there are old She-Ra fans that are absolutely fuming because of the reboot, extreme anti-SJW's that hate the "overdiversity and disgusting non-feminine looking She-Ra" it's a bunch of bull. My bestfriend's little sisters absolutely adore the show and watched it all at once.
kickap00
Aug 14, 2019 3:15AM
Personally I think the new character designs look great. Catra being the most unique looking compared to her original and She ra more beefed up? Yes please. Although i am biased and just love girls with muscles to begin with.
cameron
May 25, 2020 11:30PM
These comments didn't age well.
lucario14
May 26, 2020 3:47AM
^Hahaha no they didn't at all especially my comment...lol. The one issue I had was its design but the season 5 She ra and Catra redesigns were so nice. I'll eat my words tho, the show incredible and I can say with confidence I am a big fan of the show and Catradora
Mimiyaah
May 26, 2020 10:51AM
^ they did a good job~
xxcindybeexx
May 28, 2020 3:54AM
my question is, why do the designs HAVE to be top dollar triple 3d 1080600p quality? why can't they be the way they are and be good? why can't simple be good enough? it's not a show that's about the art anyways. it's a show about catradora dammit, and that's all that matters!
TeruMoko Nov 24, 2018 10:38PM
LOL adorable!
Chungus Nov 24, 2018 10:46PM
more like Adora-ble....eh.... I know my way out.
REDflame23 Nov 24, 2018 10:54PM
Ah, it worked.
SakuraIce22 Nov 24, 2018 10:54PM
/\ Lmao
REDflame23 Nov 24, 2018 10:55PM
“Catra?” What is this? Naruto?
phatboisteez Nov 25, 2018 12:04AM
s2 when
kickap00 Nov 25, 2018 2:07AM
Purrr :3
ChaozCloud Nov 25, 2018 2:19AM
Season 2 when!?
LittelWind Nov 25, 2018 4:37AM
Yes we need again string shippers to make them canon!
Sup Nov 25, 2018 7:33AM
Fuck yeah, Catradora is here!
SulliMike23 Nov 25, 2018 8:00PM
I had a feeling that this pairing would be on the rise the moment the new She-Ra premiered on Netflix.
BlazingSeraph Nov 26, 2018 4:40PM
Catradora endgame tho
MagiMaki Nov 26, 2018 6:53PM
I really hope this will be a thing in the next seasons. =v=
BugDevil Nov 27, 2018 3:24AM
I'm surprised about the positive reaction here. Everyone under the sun seems to hate the new She-Ra show.
Then again, shipping is disconnected from the quality of the show.
Sweet Dangus McGee Nov 27, 2018 1:31PM
A lot of people are very fond of She-Ra nowadays. By everyone under the sun you mean the cavalcade of freaks, creeps and alt-right "rationals" who took a show with character design not horny or directly appealing to their tastes as an affront on god and man. And also Voltron fans,
Timbla Nov 27, 2018 3:00PM
Already, that was quick
BugDevil Nov 27, 2018 4:15PM
^^Or bad character designs are just bad. Just a possibility. The creators over-corrected the terrible 80s glam designs into the opposite direction so hard that they ended up with this bad stuff. Can't we have a decent middle?
That is of course less important than the writing. I only watched a few episodes, so I won't judge. Many people with more time on their hands already dissected everything anyway. Let's just say that your generalization's even worse than mine lol
BlazingSeraph Nov 27, 2018 6:16PM
I'm sorry but who are you listening to saying that???? Literally everyone who isn't a whiny manbaby on the internet has had really positive reactions towards the new She-Ra. If you were just watching those Youtube videos that were talking about how they were DONE with She-Ra then like, of course you're gonna see people think it's bad. The people reviewing it on Youtube are all older men who the show was not intended for at all.
The new She-Ra has a wide variety of body types and ethnicities just like how it is in real life and I've seen the show be praised because of it a lot more than criticized by regular people. The amount of tweets I've seen from parents saying that their children loved the show and how both their sons and daughters actually wanted to watch and didn't fight over the remote is way more important than whatever neo-reactionaries say. The show is literally a kids' show that is aimed towards younger girls and teens and the character designs and body types are the kinds that kids would actually want to see. And let me say again, the show is trying to promote positive body image for kids and it's succeeding. I've already seen people talk about how seeing Glimmer and Scorpia and Netossa etc made them really happy because they don't want kids thinking that their body type is wrong. And that they wished they had a show like this when they were younger. So yeah, I have no clue who you're listening to but there's way more positive responses than whatever you're currently getting.
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BlazingSeraph Nov 27, 2018 6:25PM
@GeneralJ You should totally watch it, it was great. There's a lot of representation which is always a plus but the actual plot is pretty good too. It's still the first season so it's not exactly gonna be the best, as 1st seasons tend to go for Dreamworks shows, but it sets up the world of Etheria and the cast of characters nicely. Also it's a rebel force vs fascist government war plotline and honestly, I always find those interesting. It's especially cool cause the main character, Adora, is a former soldier of the Horde (the fascist regime) and she defects and joins the Rebellion. And then there's Adora and Catra's entire relationship which is a center point of the plot. Also they tell a good abuse survivor story in both Catra and Adora so like, the plot and story is solid. There's obviously some things they could've done better, but all in all, it's a well thought out show that sets up for further conflict in future episodes and actually makes you care about the characters.
lucario14 Nov 27, 2018 10:05PM
Before seeing it i saw some reviews just trashing it and at the same time it was trending on tumblr and i thought yup i'm watching it :D I expected some politically fueled garbage and...I saw none. Honestly it really wasn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. I especially liked the relationship dynamic between these two characters. The character design is pretty child like and less defined and pretty lazy but overall...not bad.
MagiMaki Nov 28, 2018 3:54AM
I thought it would be tainted by crazy tumblr people as well, but it was pretty good on a silly, slightly cringy level. What I expect from something He-Man like. The male characters were funny and I'm rooting for Catra and Adora - their relationship is pretty interesting. Too many characters in the first season though.
BugDevil Nov 28, 2018 4:19AM
@BlazingSeraph
As I said, I didn't watch much so I can't talk about the plot. I don't think it's very original, but what is these days? It's probably fine.
The character designs tho... jeez. You are taking what parents say as the actual opinions of their children. Kids DONT want to see "realistic" body types (maybe teens do, sometimes). That was never a thing. Fantasy idealizes for a reason. Just because the parents are happy that this is a thing doesn't mean the children care. They'd like the show either way, designs be damned. Otherwise the original She-Ra and He-man would have never gotten any fans with their terrible designs and subpar plots lol
And I am not actually defending the terrible 80s glam BS, but some "realistic" body types aren't realistic at all on average. Also gotta love the freckles = realistic stereotype. Because as we all know, 9/10 kids have freckles.
The one thing I really wanted them to change about She-Ra is her stupidly long hair... and that's the only part they kept for the new series lol
Also gotta love that anyone who disagrees with you is "a whiny manbaby", despite the fact that many women (old fans of the show) didn't like it either. It's pathetic to deflect criticism by throwing the "it's all old men" card around, don't you think?
BlazingSeraph Nov 28, 2018 3:30PM
@BugDevil no offense but you're not a girl are you? Legit the only people I've seen criticize the show so far are men so I'm saying a generalization based on my own experiences. And I'm actually actively looking for She-Ra stuff on a constant basis, so I think I know more about what people who watch the show are saying. And pretty much every girl/woman/LGBT person I've talked to have said they love the designs and that's who they're aiming towards in the first place. No offense but this show isn't for you and just because it doesn't pander to what you think people are supposed to look like doesn't mean the designs are bad. I have no clue where you live, but in America, the body types shown in the show are literally the body types I see everywhere and I live in the capital city of my state.
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BugDevil Nov 28, 2018 3:42PM
@BlazingSeraph
No offense, but my gender is irrelevant to the topic. As should be pretty much any reviewer's, but I guess that's too open minded. So yeah, I was basing my (clearly exaggerated) statement on my experiences as well. I knew there are people who like it. But I won't ignore and stamp off people who dislike it either.
No offense but just because a couple of people like the designs doesn't mean they are beyond critique.
No offense x 3, but America isn't the only country or culture in the world. I don't remember, but was it She-Ra, princess of America? lol
No offense x 4, but isn't the target audience supposed to be children? I know a lot of children (working part time at a day care center sometimes) and to nobody's surprise they want to watch pretty much any cartoon on TV. Children are kinda notorious for that. They enjoyed stuff like Winx Club with their ridiculous Barbie doll body types just as much as some exaggerated designs in Fairly Oddparents.
In the end you just talked to some people with the same mindset as you about what they want for their children, rather than actually thinking critically about the content itself. But hey, that might just be a misunderstanding. We wouldn't wanna generalize everyone who disagrees with us, right?
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BlazingSeraph Nov 28, 2018 5:48PM
@BugDevil Okay I'll link some articles talking about it and let's see this bubble you're talking about. You can literally just Google She-Ra review and the majority of them are also positive but sure, I'm talking to only people who have the same mindset. It's not like it could possibly be you who's doing it.
https://junkee.com/she-ra-and-the-princesses-of-power-reactions/184028
http://collider.com/she-ra-netflix-queer-characters-lgbtq-representation/
https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/she-ra/277531/she-ra-the-next-step-in-queer-representation
https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/11/21/18105176/she-ra-princesses-of-power-reboot-review
https://www.bustle.com/p/the-she-ra-the-princesses-of-power-cast-is-super-diverse-ready-to-save-the-day-13115586
https://dailybruin.com/2018/11/19/she-ra-characters-remodeled-to-promote-inclusivity-diversity-in-tv-industry/
https://www.newsarama.com/42576-she-ra-wants-to-reflect-and-represent-our-modern-world.html
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12163726
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/25/17596576/she-ra-and-the-princesses-of-power-fan-art-subversive-netflix-fandom-community
http://www.pajiba.com/tv_reviews/netflix-review-shera-and-the-princess-of-power-uplifts-women.php
http://www.comicsbeat.com/she-ra-princesses-power-review/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/07/netflixs-she-ra-princesses-power-is-youthful-revamp-bursting-with-big-sword-energy/?utm_term=.ff8f47ecfce5
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/she_ra_and_the_princesses_of_power/s01/
I'll even link Rotten Tomatoes since it has a 100% critic review and 72% audience score despite it being review bombed the day it came out by people who gave it a 1/2 star without even watching.
EDIT: I'm also not gonna answer anymore because this is the second time you've literally just completely missed the original argument and started arguing semantics and terms instead of the actual point. And for everyone else, you're welcome for the free drama. tips fedora Also watch the show, it's legit good as these reviews point out.
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BugDevil Nov 30, 2018 9:28AM
^What drama? Oh right the one you created for no reason. This is the second time you acted like a drama queen for no reason and failed to understand basic conversation flow or argumentation. Like hell I'm going to deal with that lol
Ajeak Nov 30, 2018 10:38PM
Woooow, we can never have anything nice without massive debate. ^BugDevil if you don't like it don't watch it or seek out content for it, just let the people who enjoy it enjoy it. ^BlazingSeraph calm down a little it's okay for people not to like it, not everyone who dislikes the new She-Ra is some straw man who hates women and progress, I can sympathize that the animation style isnt to everyone's tastes and it's vastly different from the original She-Ra, which is not a bad thing, it just is.
BugDevil Dec 1, 2018 8:55AM
^And where did I say I didn't like it? You gotta follow your own advice about strawmaning people.
LoveHeart Dec 1, 2018 10:58AM
People you are both pretty , stop arguing in the comments of a picture.
Adora knows Catra weakness ^^
Ajeak Dec 1, 2018 9:03PM
I really hope this does become canon
Bugpope Dec 4, 2018 3:41AM
BugDevil just seems to enjoy hating things for the sake of it, and then flips out if you try to reason with him. Don't take it seriously.
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Wanderer Apr 28, 2019 8:56PM
Jeez how did i miss this whole debacle? I do agree with BugDevil in some little bits where the character designs are a bit iffy. (Glimmer's is my least favourite tbh, she looks like an eggplant). Most of the critics I've seen are mixed, (all white, and above the age of 30 tho), there are old She-Ra fans that are absolutely fuming because of the reboot, extreme anti-SJW's that hate the "overdiversity and disgusting non-feminine looking She-Ra" it's a bunch of bull. My bestfriend's little sisters absolutely adore the show and watched it all at once.
kickap00 Aug 14, 2019 3:15AM
Personally I think the new character designs look great. Catra being the most unique looking compared to her original and She ra more beefed up? Yes please. Although i am biased and just love girls with muscles to begin with.
cameron May 25, 2020 11:30PM
These comments didn't age well.
lucario14 May 26, 2020 3:47AM
^Hahaha no they didn't at all especially my comment...lol. The one issue I had was its design but the season 5 She ra and Catra redesigns were so nice. I'll eat my words tho, the show incredible and I can say with confidence I am a big fan of the show and Catradora
Mimiyaah May 26, 2020 10:51AM
^ they did a good job~
xxcindybeexx May 28, 2020 3:54AM
my question is, why do the designs HAVE to be top dollar triple 3d 1080600p quality? why can't they be the way they are and be good? why can't simple be good enough? it's not a show that's about the art anyways. it's a show about catradora dammit, and that's all that matters!