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This is the first time it occurred to me that the way this author writes some relationships kind of structurally pisses me off. No one is ever active. No one strives for change. All of them are shackled by their flaws and continue to act in a way that exasperated them instead of choosing to act opposite to them. Everyone is unlikeable because no one has good qualities. No one is allowed to have more than a neutral expression. Every other pair feels the same cause they all have this structure and dynamic.

It’s like, the world the characters live in don’t push them out of their comfort zone and perform actions that are New. They aren’t allowed to be anything but stagnant.

I get that they’re “just like me frfr”, or the author just wants to write stagnant people thinking the entire chapter away, unable to overcome their fatal flaw and find themselves in the love, but also like. Reading about the teacher lowkey annoyed me. The storytelling doesn’t make me hope she finds love, it makes hope she finds a therapy dog and a friend or a hobby. Anything to make her a character that is able to pull my emotions.

And I feel like that’s what it boils down to. Some of these characters are never under any threat to change anything. The twin tailed girl and the delinquent were really cool until they stopped challenging and pushing each other to be a better person. The mangaka and the manager were really cool until they got together and (honestly I can’t remember much of this story anymore I just remember being unmoved by the writing, in any direction). They just… peter out.

Also a bit nitpicky but so many of the romances default to the punchline as “actually I’m totally not on the same wavelength as you about your romance” whether it be manager’s reaction after sex (“I’m seriously reconsidering our future as a couple” bitch. After having good sex for a whole two days? Set your boundaries), Main Character straight up not caring about delinquent girl’s feelings… twin tailed girl and delinquent girl 2’s whole dog thing. But at this point this is me not liking the thesis of this story…

I guess I’ve been following this story for a while and never really thought about it until now.

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I've always found the way the author handles labels and romance to be fascinating, mainly how many of her characters--Kasumi and Koruri being the two big ones--aren't internally driven to them at all. They're fine with leaving things unspoken but intimate and only consider the label 'girlfriend' when the people they're close with push for it. It makes me wonder if the author's own experience with romance has been similar, and that's why she depicts love this way.

Moca strives for labels. She places meaning in them, so that if "one day she disappears" someone will mourn for her. This is how she validates her existence.

Sakurako was okay with not defining her relationship with Kasumi because they had a balanced give and take together, until she was challenged in a way that made her to want to secure her place in Kasumi’s life. The idea Kasumi could just...be without her and let her go (Special 3) pushed her to try to change their relationship into of explicit romance.

Kasumi, is the ultimate loner. She neither seeks labels, nor needs them, and doesn't need people in her life nor the assurance of her own permanence in their lives. She fundamentally lacks the fear of "disappearing" like Moca, or not mattering, because she's the epitome of self-sufficiency. No part of her is dependent on another human to define herself or fulfill her needs. However, there's a twist. Somehow living with Sakurako for seven years has been the right balance of "not too much but not too little" (ch 65.3). Somehow, she hasn't gotten sick of Sakurako despite how bothersome it can be for her (who is lazy and chooses the path of least resistance) to live with a whole other person.

This story is a really cute slice of life, but the author also places different forms of connection against each other. This story was never about the Romance! It's about how we navigate the relationship we have with someone we want to be with for the rest of our lives. When Koruri finally accepted being Moca's girlfriend, finally accepting that label of girlfriend, she was using romance as the Vehicle, a Means to secure Moca in her life. We never get a deep psychological dissection of what romantic love means for her. It doesn't matter. What matters is the conflict between them (Koruri fearing Moca may leave one day without saying a word, both sating their need for companionship) and how they compromised to keep each other in their lives (Koruri accepting being Moca's girlfriend). This story is different variations exploring the fundamental intimacy between people who live together, who share A Room For Two, and how different people choose to define it using the means they have.

I'm sure the other different pairings like Seri and her roommate, or Sakurako's sister and her roommate, all have their own flavors and nuances. I just can't remember them after following this series for so many years lol.

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That was hilarious. Thank you translation team for this meta comedy combining the author, community, and our horniness for Elsa and Yvonne to bang each other. Hard.

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NANAO LETS GET SOMEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cute (6)

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So excited to see this again! I miss my lovely stupid girlie

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PRE-MARITAL HAND TOUCHING? IMPROPER

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Astronomically adorable

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Smol Yvonne is absolutely killing me. I’m 100% with the dad here frfr. Yvonne is just so cute!

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Riko using alcohol to coerce and You lying about forgetting. The perfect amount of dark and fucked up from Pito.

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Riko using alcohol to coerce and You lying about forgetting. The perfect amount of dark and fucked up from Pito.

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Wow I had no idea they were girlfriends. Honestly thought they were gals being pals the whole time. I guess I'm gonna become a historian

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Really really REALLY hoping it's not a manga about men pushing themselves onto a trans woman cause I don't know what's up with that molesting scene...

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pg 14 looks like someone took the bucket tool and filled white indiscriminately over every black pixel

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The Devil Wears Prada fan art??? In the year of our lord 2023??????? The classic lesbian keystone film that came out a decade and a half ago??????

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I can’t believe Yuzu just did an Arthur fist clench

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Fuck came back to this and I remember no one and nothing.

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I don't think this is going to turn out well for Nanao.... Asumi is right in her self-assessment. She's not in a position to do anything other than casual sex and dates, can't be serious and monogamous. In that sense, I don't think Asumi is being insensitive to Nanao and Serina. Both seem to be okay that she can't commit and date despite wanting it. Nanao understands Asumi's Mai situation and Serina understands her position as a sex worker. In fact, Nanao is the one insisting one just-one-date.

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Give it to me straight fellas... Tae's going to end up in prison, isn't she?

At this point I’m convinced the court would rule in her favor considering how Tae looks and acts

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Let’s move past the discussion posts about this being unhealthy, toxic, and abusive. We all know this. Let’s move onto post-analysis fun time and enjoy the comedy.

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Can someone do a dummy explain to me about what happened + the subtext of Kaoru and Mask’s conversation? I found it difficult to follow.

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This is like my favorite thing I’ve read on this site since Pink Ribbon

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This is so adorable

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Sisterly bonding <3