It's alive! Thanks for releasing more of this. Moe is love. Glad to see Ayame is finally seeing the light.

I'm starting to sound like a broken record here. This should not be so hard to understand. I do not have a problem with the gore or the events that take place in the manga. This goes beyond that. The author decided to put a scene where a girl gets accidentally raped, well, excuse me, deflowered by an umbrella, just because. It had nothing to do with anything or anyone in the manga. It was included as a free distasteful bonus. I find that ridiculously gratuitous and disgusting. If you're ok with that, then good for you, but I certainly don't approve of this kind of bullshit.

She didn't rape anyone though.

Ok? She accidentally deflowered a girl with an umbrella then. Cool, now it sounds even more retarded.

Thrill of the confrontation

As in overpowering them until they die. Hence the no merit in killing Hinako thing. I never said she was a good person, I only said that I thought she wasn't supposed to be completely evil, if we took into account her daily life. Then again The_Dog_Lives brings up something I didn't remember, so I may be wrong in that regard, we'll see.

there was no confrontation

We only saw a handful of her killings, and you can see confrontation right in the very same page, so...

she need to want to do good to be an antihero.

I don't think that's a requirement.

you really think after all the killing people saw and expect they're going to care about an accident?

It worked though.

it was an accident

A really stupid, really forced and really unnecessary accident that had absolutely nothing to do with the character, the context, the story, the plot or anything at all in the story. So shock-baiting garbage.

that's not character development, that's being pragmatic.

Ok, fair enough.

and that rape is too much for her,

But I'm not. I said I'm ok if she wanted to rape people, that's not the problem.

while it's actually completelly in-character for her, because she's evil,

But she didn't do it, it was an absurd accident. That's the problem.

she's a villain protagonist forced to work for the good guys, that doesn't make her an antihero.

Sounds like antihero material to me, but that's a whole different issue, stop mixing the two, please.

last edited at Jan 5, 2016 4:05PM

none posted:

She murders for fun, not to reach her goal.

But she doesn't.

She does. You're also ignoring that in the previous page to the one you posted, she just admited she killed because she could.

Also in one you gave she blatantly says the only reason she wouldn't kill her is because there is no merit in it and cop praises her for think before doing for a change, as in she at least is capable of holding herself if in long run she will be able kill more people legally while working with police.

I'm not sure how it was phrased in japanese, but merit can be easily interpreted as "there is no fun in killing her so I won't".

There we go, that's the point. She doesn't find fun in the act of murdering itself, she's there for the thrill of the confrontation.

The building.

We didn't see any dead people resulting from that, and in any case, crashing it into the building wasn't her intention either.

Your complaint was that the injury was not in her intent so it was just for shock value, but other injuries that were not her intent are okay because the people they were antagonists and frankly horrible people.

No, the other unintended things were perfectly ok because they happened as a result of some fight. It wasn't Kuroko accidentally raping a girl with an umbrella just because she was trying to stop her from doing something. Don't you see how stupid that sounds? That's my problem with it.

only reason she kill bad guys is to stay free because that's her deal.

That's her goal, and as a result she stops even crazier people from doing more evil. Antihero.

And again you're completely ignoring the point that it doens't matter

And you're completely ignoring my point. She didn't do it to kill her. She didn't do it to taunt nor to torture her. She didn't do it because she could. I'd had been actually ok if any of those were the case, because it would had been arguable due to her character, but it wasn't. It was a really forced accident, done only to shock people, and that's distasteful. You may say, "well, accidents happen and it was just a matter of time before..." yes, but not fucking raping a girl with an umbrella. That's just retarded.

she cares about Chiyo because it's her girlfriend, the only character development she had was maybe accepting Rinko as apprentice

A psycho killer getting a girlfriend, an apprentice and friends sounds like character development to me.

Hinako and Yatsuha

Now, that was the good part of the chapter. Those 2 are pretty cute together.

protagonist has to be willing to ignore rules and act by thinking that ends justify means in order to achieve their goal

But that's what she does? If she doesn't comply she gets axed, so she has goals, and she does whatever she pleases to to reach them.

She murders for fun, not to reach her goal.

But she doesn't.

What purpose the latter serves except Kuroko having fun?

It moved forward the plot, obviously. The umbrella thing is completely unnecessary.

they know what Kuroko is capable of.

Again, that's not the point. She didn't even want to do that.

One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

It does. You could argue that she treats girls well because she wants to bang them, but you have characters like Hinako, who she doesn't even want to bang anymore and treats her more like a daughter/sister/pet, and she kind of cares about Chiyo. She's less crazy now that at the beginning of the manga because of her girl squad. That's character development.

As I said, she's supposed to be an antiheroine, not straight up evil.

Wait, so you really see more shock value in an accidental umbrella rape than she's crushing an innocent underaged girl head with her foot?

Yes. The latter serves a purpose, the former doesn't. It's just something that happens just to shock the readers. It's shameless.

there never was any character development between psycho killer and psycho killer for hire.

Wrong. She cares about her girls.

totally a good guy team here.

An antiheroine team.

Did you have a problem with her cutting off Yukari's arm and leg back in the Murder Party arc?

No, she was fighting her.

Takeru's face and chest being shredded in the Domestic Killer arc because of the sniper interference?

Who, the bad guy? Are you kidding me? Also she outright wanted to kill him in one shot.

the train very likely full of people.

They were clearly all dead by then.

last edited at Jan 5, 2016 1:21PM

But Kuroko is straigh up evil, she killed 715 people for fun, she was never an antiheroine,

But that was in the past, that's why she's an antiheroine now. Not anymore, of course. Now I'm rooting for the bad guys. Dunno if we're getting close to the end and that's the author's intentions?

and the umbrella scene was not shock value at all, after all the worse things she done that's nothing,

The thing is that she didn't even intend to do that. That's why it's gratuitous and shock value only. If she had just killed her nothing would had changed, the whole scene is unnecessary.

Well, that was fucked up.

it is a manga about a psycho killer.

Sure, but she's supposed to be the "good girl" here. An antiheroine, not straight up evil and petty. Sure, those girls were a bunch of bully jackasses, but they were just schoolgirls, not psycho jackasses with masterplans. And the whole thing with the umbrella? Just why? It was mean spirited and gratuitous as hell, and I'm not blaming Kuroko for that, that's obviously the writer's fault. Going for shock value only made this manga drop a lot in quality.

I loved the part with Fuyumi not wanting Akiho to kiss anybody else.

She also hasnt killed anyone

Well, none of the crazy persons of the week, but there's at least one dead person inside of several bags... Though we don't know if that was her doing or not yet.

SniperPumpkin posted:

Shoujo Ai is like the western term with is light Yuri with non physical contact romance or canon stuff.

Or you could simply call it subtext and we wouldn't be having any disagreement.

I thought we were past the shoujo-ai bullshit already?

Well, as I said before there's no tag on Dynasty for it, and there likely never will be one. So take that into account.

There actually is, it's called SUBTEXT. That's what people should be using instead of wrong made-up terms. But that's besides the point anyway, Sato clearly loves Shio, so whether her love is unrequited or not, it's a yuri story. We'll see how it all unfolds.

Shio could be the most fucked up of them all xD

I still think Shio isn't very innocent. Mainly thinking about how she kissed Sato. She can control Sato easily because she is so in love with her.

This raises a very interesting point. You see, Shio is always at home, you know, the very same home with a decapitated person in a thrash bag? So maybe she knows about all that, or hell, maybe that was the kidnapper and she somehow was the one who killed them?

A really sweet ending. Loved it.

So cute.

Fun, cute and sexy. This is anime material right here.

HOLY SHIT, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
The hell just happened? Was this about a bunch of women outbitching and outyandereing each other? With people getting blackmailed, kidnapped and murdered left and right? I... I... I loved every second of it. It's like a spectacular train wreck. You can't stop looking. It's just brilliant.

I think "go big or go home" should apply here. Bitchy girl and best friend should both become yanderes too, and just kill, maim and kidnap people with wild abandon, just so they can get off in their own individual ways.

I can't wait for the next chapter, to see how far they can get in their descent into absolute madness.

HOLY SHIT, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
The hell just happened? Was this about a bunch of women outbitching and outyandereing each other? With people getting blackmailed, kidnapped and murdered left and right? I... I... I loved every second of it. It's like a spectacular train wreck. You can't stop looking. It's just brilliant.

No kiss/10.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET-- oh, nevermind.

Look at the bright side: this isn't Philosophia.

Or Happy End. And at least it's finished unlike Flower Flower and Prism.

Except at least Prism ended on a good note. This didn't.

Fuck everything.

sequel to a sad story

Oh, wow, maybe...

it's even sadder

What the flying hell? Why?

Drama can turn things around. I want to believe, but the struggle is real.

I'm really glad this got picked up. It's a lot of fun, and the build up to that kiss was great indeed. Now let's see if the other girls get lucky too.