^ There are a few more yuri pairings that don't involve Elaina later in LN but it seems very few artists are drawing them.

I don't get it, this isn't a trans manga. I think about wanting to be a woman and in a lesbian relationship all the time, but that doesn't make me trans.

Ask any of your guy friends how often they think about wanting to be women and/or want to be in a lesbian relationship.

But all of my closest friends are sapphic women.

Maybe ask some het women friends that are into bara/yaoi (no need to be close, just close enough to ask these questions :P), too, about whether they fantasize of being a man and fall in love with other men.

I really like Bara a lot. I really like to see two boys chuu each other... Never once i fantasize about being a big hairy man to kiss another big hairy man... reconsider some things maybe

Today I learned Bara and Yaoi are not necessarily the same thing. Thank you.

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Please for the love of God ban jhon he's just a bigoted troll

That account was created in 2016 but all comments are made in the last 48 hours, and all 11 comments are in under this manga's comment section.

Gee, that seems so strange, I wonder why? (rhetorical)

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However, it's important to remember that we as a society and the medical community have definitions for what it means to be trans

Lol, that "medical community" that's dominated by cis people that gatekeeps us from accessing crucial HRT drugs (and sometimes even puberty blockers) unless we repeat cis people's stereotype of "what transgender is like"? Yeah, sure, of course nobody knows "what trangender is like" and "what's the best for a trans person" better than cis people! /s

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^^ li... lizard?

Being a woman is different from being a manga heroine.

The people arguing that the protagonist of this manga is not a (trans) girl have resorted to arguing that no manga character is a woman. Truly this thread has produced heretofore unseen wonders.

That's not my point. I'm saying that wanting to be recognized as a woman, biologically, psychologically and socially is different from wanting to be a idealized fictional figure.
A girl who wants to be Superman doesn't want to be a man, but the fictional superhero

cis boy please shut the fuck up. You are talking over trans fems as if their lived experiences mean nothing.

Why, they don't see anything wrong with this /s

Spam

@Aureole Sorry for posting in the wrong thread. Should I delete my post there? Also, this font cut in half is not in the markdown guide, (I think I've already said that).

It's somewhat common to mistakenly post there, just copy the old post here and all's good, I think.

: Curse my wife behind my back? You're damned for life.

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^ Gonna rule out the pagans /j

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It's really difficult to read when a character is having issue of crippling self-esteem and starts the "maybe the person I loved would be better off with some other person" line of thinking because all of this is so real.

Having a very low self-esteem is like (content warning: symptoms, contains vulgar language) Someone constantly whispering to you "you have no worth", "you're just wasting the time and patience of everyone you know", "you lied to everyone you know, you faker", "everyone will leave you if they ever know what piss of shit you really are", "you don't deserves anything good in life" but that "someone" is you and you fully agree. And at some point you just started to distance everyone near you and burn the bridges, to try not to be disassociated by others later (even if that may not happen). Been there, done that. I'm still very sorry to those people I hurt due to this, but I still believes, to this day, that they would be better without me.

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^ Steam Deck

Highly unlikely but it'd be really funny if they discover MC also has the female bits too

Yes please some intersex representation. I have not saw any work here (or in most places) that have any intersex representation.

"pure hearted male yuri fan"

Well I was a "pure hearted male yuri fan" some years ago and then "wait what the f- is wrong with me it's totally not I'm so stupid" :P

I wonder if there's a difference in current transfem narratives between the US and Japan? Like, even if this is a totally sincere and sympathetic work, maybe by a transfem author, could it still rub people here the wrong way because of different communities/construction/shorthand?

Yes that could happen. Though I don't know much about it either.

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^ Please note that FAQ help and suggests thread has moved to this pinned thread and this is only an old thread waiting to be archived.

But I agree that that account doesn't seem right...

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^ If that's true then I'm fine with it (if not counting the huge power/water need for model training).

^^ Even non-important stuff are generated based on training data, which is ripped off by AI company from uncompensated artists (and co).

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This isn't some gladiatorial crowning type shit where the "loser" fucking dies and all their possessions are conceded to the winner.

For an arrogant person just imagine losing a bet they consider "will absolutely win" and being mocked as "less insightful" (even if that might not happen) is enough to drive them insane.

^ Yeah we're mere servants to the almighty cat overlord, officer of poop cleaning ("铲屎官").

Drop and run, also call 911?

@Zesc Take your media manipulation theory somewhere else. This is a niche anime forum, why would anyone bother doing memetic warfare here? If I want to manipulate public opinion I would choose somewhere like Facebook or TikTok. Hell. I'd probably even buy some reputable news agency like wapost or big social media firm like Twitter (oops?) to push my own opinions to millions in critical times.
But trying to manipulate public opinions here? Lol that feels like someone spamming online black market ads here would want to do.
Misinformation campaign exists and can cause great harm, that's exactly why people shall try not to label one as such when one isn't, because repeatedly raise alarms only serves to create alarm fatigue and missing real ones when it happens, which is the end of The Boy Who Cried Wolf .

@juanelric I'm pretty sure they means drawings' artistic skills, like less weird hands and such.

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@Zesc contents aside that sounds totally like a crazed conspiracy theorist. Are you for real or sarcasm?

Considering these tags, the work is more wholesome than I expected.

Updated??!!

^^ based artist

^ Because Yuuna is overthinking the possibility of Tougou distancing her for that kiss.