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My understanding was that she actually dated girls, but as soon as she hinted that she wanted something more than "going home from school together", the girls freaked out and broke up.

Kase specifically says that when she got "close" to another girl and was trying to get more physical they would distance themselves from her. No mention of actually dating.

She mentioned a couple times "but we are both girls" in the beginning, The anxiety about it didn't seem to amount to much, like here : https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kase_san_ch01#20 but it isn't nonexistent.

That's in reference to her love being unrequited. She never questions her own feelings at all, she instantly recognizes that she is in love. If she was meant to be portrayed as aromantic then you would think she would at least make a transition, like in Girl Friends, where she tries to figure out her feelings of attraction.

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While there was never any doubt that Kase-san is a lesbian from the get-go (she dated girls previously)

No, she didn't. She tried dating other girls but it never worked out. Yamada is the first girl that actually reciprocated.

Before and after she met her, it was never hinted that she would have been interested in anyone romantically or sexually.

Well we never really got to see Yamada before she met Kase, she also really never questioned the whole "but she's a girl, girls cant date girls". She was pretty quick to accept her feelings as romantic love, as if this isn't the first time she has questioned it.

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Citrus discussion 26 Oct 15:21
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wait, so Mei have another fiance? or only one? I thought the teacher from chapter 1 was her fiance and it's already over? did i got it all wrong?

We don't know, that's how bad this twist has been written.

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Their Story discussion 26 Oct 15:20
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We have seen that QT is lonely and has very few friends. So, when SJ said she liked her, but that it shouldn't change their friendship, she was more than happy to keep her as a friend.

SJ said that she was pursuing QT, she never said she was going to stop doing that. QT has known SJ's final goal this whole time.

This scene here, if I were in QT's shoes, would make me reconsider how SJ views me. A potential lover or a property? Is QT a child? Can't she talk for herself and eventually politely reject the guy? She's infantilized in the relationship.

And, again, that is just a gross overreaction. Lover or property? Come on, that's just insane. Even if they were on equal ground lovers why do you expect SJ not to say anything? Either way you can't expect SJ to sit there quietly, are you suggesting that SJ should be the child instead? That she shouldn't talk for herself? That she shouldn't tell other people that she is pursuing QT?

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Their Story discussion 25 Oct 11:22
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Just, "She's mine!" is a very forceful and controlling statement, IMO.

The only one she is controlling is the dude. It's like hanging out with a group of friends and seeing a hot girl at the bar, the first one to talk to her is the one that calls dibs.

They are just friends as far as QT is concerned.

No, they're not. QT is fully aware of SJ's feelings for her. It's not just mere friendship if one knows that the other is in love with them.

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This will end one of two ways, either Agari wins the match OR She loses but takes the loss well with her chin up and a smile on her face. Either way Kumami is going to lose.

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Their Story discussion 25 Oct 08:20
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I'd be QT, I'd be upset. "You like me, okay. It doesn't mean you can control who I talk to."

And that would be one hell of an overreaction. You really think SJ should just stay still and watch someone hit on the girl she likes? And do you think that QT wants SJ to silently drown in jealousy?

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Kase-san discussion 24 Oct 19:17
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I kind of found Kase-san’s “wanna do it?” slightly awkward, wasn’t it their first time going this far? I expected more romance, foreplay... I guess Kase-san couldn’t hold it in anymore? :D

No, they have tried "doing it" before but were interrupted.

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Citrus discussion 24 Oct 12:19
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Finally, the mystery of the parents marriage is solved. Yuzus mom never seemed like the type to marry for money so it was odd she would marry a man out of nowhere who was never going to be around.

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Oh damn, I completely forgot about Mimika's friend in all this, Here's hoping that she avenges Mimika's and Yuzumori's damaged relationship and kicks Ririha's ass! Also, I can see an anime adaption of this manga by Studio 3hz or Studio SHAFT. Ejima's art reminds me a lot of those two studios.

Inb4 "You're a delusional twat! This will never get an anime!" comments

You're a delusional twat! This will never get an anime!

Edit: Jokes aside. When an anime has a lolicon character he is usually portrayed as a pervert. In the case of Yuzumori-san the lolicon would be the main protagonist, and I'm afraid that this is too controversial for the normies.

Not really true as of late. We are getting more lolicon mains these days, just look at Eromanga.

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Amusingly, the extra makes it seem like they are even less in love than their volume.

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Citrus discussion 22 Oct 08:30
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Confess to what? Oh wait, we don't know because it was conveniently interrupted.

Oh come on, it's pretty obvious from the situation and all the chapters before.

Oh, so Mei loves Emilia! Of course, now it all makes sense.

But seriously, if it's just the plain "I love you" then why go through the effort of having it interrupted? What's the point? And of course, since this is a manga, they don't talk to each other for the rest of the night or continue it the next day. Because that's how conversations work. /s

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Citrus discussion 22 Oct 02:58
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So you have read the next chapters already? Because so far there's nothing at all that supports your reading. Mei was ready to confess this chapters before Matsuri (like the readers) jumped the gun and started to scream bloody murder over speculations from characters that aren't the ones up to date with whatever happens on the Aihara family household.

Confess to what? Oh wait, we don't know because it was conveniently interrupted. If Mei is engaged again then she has already failed to be trustworthy, she should have told Yuzu a long time ago. It wouldn't have been a big deal since they have already literally dealt with this same situation already.

Yuzu knew form the get go that Mei was engaged to the teacher so your comparison falls apart from the start.

Except she didn't. She didn't even know Mei was her sister. She didn't know that Mei didn't actually love him until she confronted her about it. Again, it's literally another family set up arranged marriage, it's the same exact situation.

And that is precisely why I'm waiting to see where is Saburota going with all of this. Is not the firs time that people here creates huge narratives without basis. Just last month we had people 100% that Mei was dying

No, you did not. People were just speculating, there wasn't a huge reaction like this. We have characters talking about a situation that the whole series started with that all the sudden has become an issue once again. Your comparison might hold water if the series didn't start out with the old and tired arranged marriage trope.

Yuzu and Mei weren't into a relationship, let alone know each other when Amemiya was a factor on the plot and Yuzu step in not because she was in love but because she thought it was the right thing to do.

Himeko and Matsuri are the only ones who have actively try to force their feelings over the crushes. And Sara's confession wasn't a real love triangle since she was fast to step up as soon she was made aware of the situation and her role actually pushed Yuzu and Mei into a relationship.

Narrative wise it's still a love triangle, we were hinted at back then that Yuzu had feelings for Mei and those feelings made her go above and beyond to protect her.

You have a weird definition of a love triangle. Sara's confession is what caused Yuzu so much stress and grief that it finally got her to make her own move in fear that she would lose her chance to be with Mei. Yuzu certainly thought Sara's confession was an actual threat.

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Citrus discussion 21 Oct 20:52
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No they aren't. The teacher was there to show the way Mei had lost any agency of her own and to allow Yuzu to make a dramatic entrance on Mei's life. Now this is a test for Mei's grow as character and one that will kickstart further development on the supporting cast.

Yes, they are. Mei, again, has lost all agency of her own and now needs Yuzu to be a bigger part in her life in order to change it. The test of her character growth is that she was caught continually lying? Looks like she already failed the test, if only they had already dealt with this exact situation a long time ago...

What parallels are there? The teacher was an actual factor where he was a villain of sorts while here the fiances are complete non-entities since the focus is on the girls' actions and not them.

It's literally a direct parallel since it's the same exact situation. Mei is once again engaged to another arranged fiance without Yuzu's knowledge and requires Yuzu to step in to save her AGAIN.

She peppered the entire story with meaningful background events, foreshadowing and easter eggs. And there haven't been real love triangles other than Matsuri and Himeko

You have got to be joking. Foreshadowing and easter eggs? Come on, please, where was the foreshadowing that Mei somehow got engaged again without anyone knowing? The fact that the mother doesn't say anything just shows that Saburouta is just pulling this out of her ass.

There have been four love triangles: Amemiya, Himeko, Sara, and Matsrui. Now here comes a fifth in the form of another arranged marriage. At this point Citrus can qualify as a harem manga with how many people are trying to get into Mei's panties.

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Citrus discussion 21 Oct 17:22
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The circumstances between the first chapters and now is very different to say they are the same. Is like people claiming this summer trip was an exact mirror to the school trip where Yuzu met the twins, the context of both plots is completely different and people is seeing parallels that aren't there.

Except they're not, the circumstances are the exact same. It's literally "SURPRISE! Mei has another arranged fiance! Isn't that so dramatic?"

Unless this is just a red herring and they are referring to the first arranged marriage that was called off then the parallels are there. At the very least it's lazy writing, ironically goes hand in hand with the lazy art.

Furthermore, as previous chapters have shown Saburota is actually a pretty clever writer and one that doesn't stretches outside conflicts on her plots. Remember how the whole thing with Matsuri's blackmail was solved on a couple of panels?

Come on, I've defended this series too from critics, but I have to admit that "clever" is not how I would describe Saburota's writing. You can only have so many different love triangles before they get repetitive.

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Citrus discussion 21 Oct 16:44
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Wow, someone did not make it to deadline I see. Half of this chapter were barely sketches.

She had to work on the extras for Volume 8.

Personally I feel people are overreacting here and jumping the gun no unlike Matsuri herself is doing. We know Yuzu and Mei are endgame so arranged marriages is just the next obstacle to overcome and is pretty in line with the "We have to live for ourselves and make our own decisions" theme that has driven the entire story. And that is assuming Mei does indeed have a fiance and is not a red herring.

We know Mei and Yuzu are endgame, doesn't stop it from being a dumb twist to reuse the same cliche plot from the very beginning of the manga. Not to mention the constant convenient interruptions that stop characters from talking to each other. And to top it off the art, one of the best parts of the manga, was completely forgotten.

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Citrus discussion 21 Oct 15:29
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Everything from the story to the art was just a big middle finger from Saburouta to the readers.

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Why do I read the title as Futanari whenever I see this lol. It's time to know what futari means

We all know why...

"Futanari" directly translates to "two forms", while "Futari" translates to "two people".

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Pulse discussion 20 Oct 09:48
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Gotta say that it's real pretty and all, and I'm happy that they live is a progressive country that allows it but I'm really hoping that they talk about the whole break up thing. I hope it doesn't get swept under the rug.

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So the English Lezhin site just got a new GL series up called Blooming Sequence (www.lezhin.com/en/comic/blooming_en). I haven't looked up the raws but so far so good. Other than a guy who can't take no for an answer when asking for a phone number there is very little drama for the first 8 chapters. The younger one is already aware that she is attracted to women while the older one is just now realizing it. It also seems to be hinting that the younger girls ex-girlfriend/crush will be entering the scene later to start up some drama.

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Their Story discussion 20 Oct 05:47
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Yeah, seems this is going to go down the road of QT realizing her feelings after seeing other girls hitting on SJ. A bit cliche but effective.

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That said, you realise Gunj attacked Pieta? That she physically abused her without consent?

idk i didn’t see that as “abuse” more like she was just kinda aggressive? then again, if she had told Petai she was that type of person who likes hardcore stuff from the beginning or at some point, the puppy wouldn’t be so traumatized now lol

the bad part is that the author cut the whole sex scene so we can’t really tell if she tried to stop Gunj/had a big rejection or was just that trope where the girl says “no” but likes it. If I were Petai rn i would feel a little sad bc that means Gunj doesn’t trust me enough to share important stuff that actually affects me as well

Except we know that the psychiatrist and Gunj agree that she was being violent. Petai also says that the whole experience makes her doubt her relationship with Gunj meaning that it wasn't consensual. We don't need to see the sex scene to know that neither character wanted it to go down like it did.

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Why would she do that - because she likes Maya and understands that she might lose her.

Do you know what a great way to lose the person you like? Disappearing without a trace and then showing up years later with a kid just because the kid's dad died and now you need someone to help you.

Michiru has not done a damn thing to make up for that level of betrayal. You really can't even say that she truly loves Maya, Maya's point of view that Michiru is just moving from one solid foundation to another is completely backed up with what we have seen. Even Michiru becoming more independent work wise resulted in her relying on Maya more and more dealing with her kid. If someone more suitable with taking care of a kid shows up then why would Michiru stay with Maya instead? She has already shown that she can leave without a care, nothing has shown that she won't do that again when opportunity strikes.

Even if Maya doesn't love the guy, at least he loves her enough to give her what she wants even if that means not being with him. Michiru doesn't even come close to that. Maya needs to find someone else because Michiru is nothing but trouble.

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It’s just BDSM i rlly don’t get the whole “secret” thing, “true self” as if its something horrible. The author makes it sound as if she’s a serial killer rather than just sadist

BDSM without a safe word is just abuse.

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Meh, was really hoping for Maya to keep up the ruse for longer than a day to teach Michiru a lesson.

One of the very few series that have me rooting for het end. Maya deserves better.