God damn it, that last update was adorable! But Qiu Tong's phone... face... picture... thing was terrifying.

Probably should put that in spoiler tags.

Sorry, I didn't think it was specific enough to really spoil anything. I'll keep a tighter rein on what I say next time.

Spoiler-ed, I guess.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

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God damn it, that last update was adorable! But Qiu Tong's phone... face... picture... thing was terrifying.

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I think I would be more tolerant if it wasn't a glasses girl, but the first box was awful. I don't know if the language barrier made it worse than it was, but it sounded like they were trying way too hard to be poetic. Also, 'ah, she's crying', really? Not as good as their other stuff. Though I am biased, because I don't like (most) glasses girls.

Thank you for this post, as I didn't see the original. This shall be useful in my efforts to consume all the yuri ever.

So she is dating the sister now =))

Thematically, that would be bad. There's a running thread about people having roles forced on them that don't really fit. Kana being seen as a substitute for her mother. Hina as a substitute for her sister. Nanase as a good girl. To have Nanase take Hina as her lover in place of Kana would be to do both of them a disservice in that light. Which is why the line "You two are not alike in the slightest" is so important here.

Personally I see them as being friends at the end with a very close understanding, not to mention a shared connection to the late Kana. But I'd rather not see them pursue a relationship.

Exactly what I was thinking. I feel like those two ending up together would make the one shot lose all his interest and meaning. Them being friend with a special connection is so much better. Friendship can be great too... often better than love.

Who says friends can't love? Philia dude, philia. Of the good, I suppose. But yeah, far better justification for why them not hooking up than I managed. Which seems a pointless comment. Something compelled me to do so, but I can't for the life of me remember. God damn it, I'm not deleting this now I've typed it either.

I'm going to bed.

The mom's joyous face at learning they're only the basics. Seriously, that can be interpreted as nothing but glee.

Seriously sounds like it was supposed to be continued. The ending just begs for a part 2.

Well... If you shoot a random guy and leave two evil dudes alive, I'm gueeeessing the timelord shows up and sets things right. While he's doin that you nab the Tardis while he's distracted.

Oh right, I'm with you know. My stupid brain expecting to have everything obvious in front of it.

Well. My next door neighbor is called Toby. I'll be back after I know how Stretch finishes.

On yawaspi, there's the date of the next chapter. April 16. It will take a day or two to get translated probably.

If I was in the market for a TARDIS, what kind of bait would I put out for a timelord?

edit: grammar failure. Proposing something hypothetical, then putting should rather than would was incorrect I think.

According to Micheal Scott, shoot Toby twice.

Where did he say that would give me access to time travel? Or was it the joke to far bi at the end? Was it really in that poor taste?

On yawaspi, there's the date of the next chapter. April 16. It will take a day or two to get translated probably.

If I was in the market for a TARDIS, what kind of bait would I put out for a timelord?

edit: grammar failure. Proposing something hypothetical, then putting should rather than would was incorrect I think.

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Kana would have reincarnated by then. Nanase still loves Kana and always will, but you can't change death, and having her suffer until death will make no one Happy.

I am so glad we got out of the era of depressing Yuri, don't make me go back.

Oh, it's just silly talk of red strings and all that. Just the ideal I have in my head of what romance should be (everyone gets someone else), and as reincarnation doesn't filter into that (for me. Excepting for yuri which include explicit, like Kanazuki no Miko) dead twin gets girlfriend.

I think the matter is me imposing a system onto what I read (which developed as a coping mechanism for sad yuri, funnily enough), an idealised system specified to me through which the characters are warped to my view of happiness, rather than proper consideration of how the story presents it's own ideals, and according to this view of happiness, a comparatively short life where in one can move on and not be with there love until there reuniting for an eternity in the yurilife is preferable finite life of happiness which would not last. Though a cruel part of me does scream "Make them go back there!", I didn't mean to impose my way of thinking onto you. If don't like to think of what I've said as denoting an idealised form of happiness, as you have your own views on it fair enough. I don't believe in universal absolutes, so it's not like everyone should have the same concept of happiness as I do.

Edit: I think I've muddled what I was trying to say. If my poor structure has confused you, feel free to ask me to elaborate on something.

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I feel bad for the twin

Which twin? I feel bad for the dead one if her girlfriend gets of with her sister, but bad for the living one either way, living with her dead girlfriends ex. Must be horribly awkward. I prefer the platonic ending though, because in fiction I like to believe everyone has one person, and whilst the living twin can go on to get someone else, the dead one can't.

That is way to depressing, sure Hina gets to move on, but Nanase must suffer forever with her lost love?

I prefer to think the fire flies where Kana's way of approving of the relationship.

Not forever. Just until she dies and can be with her in the yurilife (afteryuri?). Which seems both less and more depressing.

More depressing for me to think the dead twin eternally not paired with someone, because in fiction, all must hook up. It is law.

Except for guys. Because they can't yuri.

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I feel bad for the twin

Which twin? I feel bad for the dead one if her girlfriend gets of with her sister, but bad for the living one either way, living with her dead girlfriends ex. Must be horribly awkward. I prefer the platonic ending though, because in fiction I like to believe everyone has one person, and whilst the living twin can go on to get someone else, the dead one can't.

Say what you will about this manga, you can't deny the uniform is terrific.

True.

This manga is special to me. The ending affected me in a way no other has before.

It made me make a list entirely for manga's with horrible endings which must me fixed. I call it job for my word processor.

The first ending was Satan.

The revision ending was worse than Satan, because it teased that Satan would be fixed. But it didn't. It made Satan worse. It tried to take away the last bad guy in the series. By the end, the author seems to think there are no bad guys, but how, in this setting can there be no one to root against? When I go back now, I see this oppressive organisation abusing girls and a dude shouting 'RELATIVISM!' at me.

As someone who is an absolute relativist, I realise there are some places where it shouldn't be displayed. here is one. This kind of fiction needs a villain. Well motivated villains are good, but don't do it to the point of complete absolution. It ruins the narrative.

I swear this post was only two lines long in my head.

I need a stronger heart. As soon as it was mentioned there was a dead character at the start, instant sadness.

Well, at least you don't have a black hole where your heart is supposed to be, cuz stuff like this and angst in general rarely has any effect whatsoever on me :p

I suppose that's definitely a plus. Though donating my black hole to science would make for some interesting conversations.

Interestingly (for approximately no one), I used to view myself as rather unaffected by emotion. Then I watched Code Geass. I assumed it was just a blip. Then I got into yuri. It was not. Only in fiction though. In real life, I am shockingly able to get other things that should be tragic in a day, where as Lelouch's death affected me for more than a year.

I need a stronger heart. As soon as it was mentioned there was a dead character at the start, instant sadness.

I'm just gonna imagine the doujin Hakuna stole was at least a OfficeGirlxFutaGirl doujin, or else someone's gonna be in SO much pain. Also, Makoto's friend should die. Period. Don't like him. GIVE ME MORE HIBARI!

... I tried to google the doujinshi because I misread your post, thinking that it was a specific one you were referencing. I am sad now.

I think Lord Atobee is Aizen, and all of this is his nefarious plot to escape his sunflower jailer. And hopefully to prove that the cutest girl is in fact a girl.

Shinozaki is one of my favourite protagonists in anything ever.

My personal hope is that the series doesn't end with the two of them getting together, although at this point that seems likely. The two of them are interesting enough that I'd like to see them navigate an entirely new sort of relationship. I mean it's not like their personal issues (especially Keiko's) will be suddenly solved by making it official.

Did this mean not get together at all, or just before the end? I'm fairly certain not at all, my confusion stems entirely from my not brain not being able to compute an ending where they aren't together. What sort of relationship could you have meant I wonder? To me, I feel if they don't end together, that leaves the door open for future partners, and I can't see anything other than a partner being the most significant relationship in someones life, and to me, these two have to be the others most significant relationship.

Oh, I absolutely believe they'll get together. The question is, will them doing so be the series finale, or the beginning of a new story arc? I'd prefer the latter, but I'm afraid the flow of the story seems to be headed down the other path.

*Stops self fanboying over Nezchan replying to me again.

Thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were saying you wanted them to have a relationship that wasn't friends or together rather something new, and the concept was giving me a headache.

It might be lonely to masturbate alone, but it's better that way. People just ruin it.

My personal hope is that the series doesn't end with the two of them getting together, although at this point that seems likely. The two of them are interesting enough that I'd like to see them navigate an entirely new sort of relationship. I mean it's not like their personal issues (especially Keiko's) will be suddenly solved by making it official.

Did this mean not get together at all, or just before the end? I'm fairly certain not at all, my confusion stems entirely from my not brain not being able to compute an ending where they aren't together. What sort of relationship could you have meant I wonder? To me, I feel if they don't end together, that leaves the door open for future partners, and I can't see anything other than a partner being the most significant relationship in someones life, and to me, these two have to be the others most significant relationship.

Oh God this is muddled, but I can't multitask well enough that I can both type coherently AND listen to 'And Then There Was Silence' at the same time.

I think people have missed that it's obvious the abusive aspect of the relationship would not have continued following this, just because it wasn't shown to us that it had because of where it ended. The trust issue, I believe, came from Sayumi being insecure regarding the sincerity of Jun's love, stemming from being repeatedly shot down in high school, which was solved following the scene in the park. Would have been nice to see how the relationship had become healthier, but oh well. What we had was nice, and I'm a sucker for a happy ending.

I giggled at the bit about the relationship beginning anew as I was listening to 'Wheel of Time', and it just got to the 'keeps on spinning, there's no beginning' part, so you know, ha, slight relevance to each other. I have low standards for comedy (why I've never said a funny thing ever). I once laughed at a Frankie Boyle joke as proof.

Wait, so, there's going to be Ying/Ming? From what I could gather from the raws, they seemed suspect in one chapter, so I'm not too surprised, but my initial reaction is a bad one. Ming is just so boring, I can't be bothered for him to have relationships with anyone lest he make them boring too. Seriously, Fat Guys Dad was more interesting to me, and he's had a chapter at an arcade. And Yings best quality is her obsession with Ling. Actually, that's seemed her entire character thus far, so that romance scuppers her character thus far. Hope her new one isn't too tainted by Ming.

On the bright side, the further he is from Empress, the closer Hong is.

Huge plus for the chapter in the adorable design reciting those lines on page 3.

On a positive for domination of the west, China will have a hard time with the generation containing the Valiant 8 coming into their own about now.

Also, judging by the shape of his head, the figure at the end is Ikkaku from Bleach. It's a precise science, telling bald peoples identity's from the shape of their head, so I am confident he will go Bankai against Class 4 president next chapter. In my Fanfiction. It will be glorious.

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Every condition for ruining your muscles I fulfilled...

Muscles around my eye got a good work out from mention of soccer player though,

I suppose it's just my knee jerk reaction that porn* is a lesser form of storytelling, regardless of contents. Not actually true, it's a society thing, I think, telling me that porn can't be good. That was the idea with original statement, anyway.

*And therefore being associated with porn makes one a lesser artist.

It depends what your definition of porn is. If it's anything depicting human nudity that is meant to arouse a sexual, or even sensual reaction, then porn is not necessarily a bad thing, or even bad art. Shoot, if that's the definition, then half the stuff Michelangelo did would be considered porn. But I see it as more what we come to know it as growing up today...as the objectification and sexualization of people for one's own sexual pleasure. If that's the definition then yes, porn is a lesser form of storytelling. Shoot it'd be a compliment to even call it a story of any kind.

And by that regard, vanilla is not necessarily porn (although it certainly can be, it just usually isn't). I don't know what Shou's loli stuff is, but I'd be surprised if none if it is vanilla. I mean he probably has cranked out a lolicon porn doujin or two, or few, because that stuff sells well unfortunately.

I dunno it just sounds so bitter going by the first definition. Because then something like this is in the same category as this.

Well I prefer broader uses of words, which is why I don't like that I associate porn with lesser storytelling.

Did people get to the end of this? I like to think I too, will someday finish this, but I just can't. Did it have a happy ending?

Edit: I can just fanfic the tentacles out, that'll get me through.

Again: So, I found the will to continue somewhere in me. That place is now dead.

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Love will make her kind. Or at least, my Fanfiction will.