dammit Kirin, your profile image now has a parody version of Daft Punk in my head. Pathologic instead of Technologic. "cough it spit it sniff it sneeze it quick you spread it....Pathologic"

I love Loco musica now, I can only imagine that voice full of pleasure and moaning

It does make me wish we could have heard it... it seems she was bad at singing but the three reacted really well, was it just to her nakedness or did her singing actually improve?

your voice doesn't change when you are stressed or embarrassed or horny? likely her singing was more full-bodied, a bit huskier, and not raising it to artificial heights trying to be an 'idol'.

why is this labeled BDSM? Just because some of the gear/elements are used?

"If you read this manga your intestinal yuri bacteria will be more effective in fighting your het bacteria"

SOLD.

(Wait, do I even have a het bacteria?)

I have this mental image of a bacterium kabedoning another bacterium against a cell wall...

Ah, I see you are a person of culture, as well. :-)

Boo. BOOO. bacteria/culture pun.

shame we don't get to see the 'punishment'

Lappin' the Lapin?

Read some of my other posts in this thread for why what you said is wrong.

No. Full stop. Your experience is your experience and that's it. You do not get to dictate everyone else's experience. Plenty of us do read it as rape and\or sexual assault. I am sorry you had to experience what you did, but it doesn't give you the right to tell others what their experience says is wrong.

You went to exactly the wrong post of mine about that. i'm not dictating like that. i meant about using the examples WITHIN THE MANGA about how it is actually consensual.

My experience, also, there's something in kink called 'consensual non-consent'. Where it may look like someone isn't consenting, but is, because said consent does NOT need to be sought out first so long as things happen within limits. Everything here reads as something like that to me as well.

when did idiot couple tag get added? applicable, but still....

Ami likes the abs. we know from the original anime Mako likes the booty.

super kabedon?

.....it only just now hit me that Yuki's 'Tundra' nickname, while also being a pun on her hair color and snow name, is a homophone JP joke for "tsundere"

^Read some of my other posts in this thread for why what you said is wrong.

i wanna know, how is this manga any different than this?

https://i.imgur.com/07Od2Qc.png

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Deep breathe
THERE ARE TWO BDSM QUEENS
I'm just screaming on the inside

Lord's is abusive, tho. Utena isn't about breaking people (while it looks like she did it to Azul, it is more like she awakened some desires and Azul bounced back after being refused on the actual 'breaking') but Lord is all about that.

Yeah, I feel like that’s going to be Utena’s ace-in-the-hole when fighting the Legion. Lord’s turned her people into a bunch of submissives, and if there’s one thing we know Utena’s good at, it’s asserting her dominance.

Oh, wait... what about Azul...

Remember when Azul started going "Baiser-sama" AKA Mistress Baiser? and Utena rejected that? Azul thought the only way to get fulfillment was to be broken. Utena left not wanting that breaking, and next time we see Azul she's training to be better.

at this point, as a bloody rape survivor, i wanna ask all the people calling this 'rape' if they are survivors too.

Deep breathe
THERE ARE TWO BDSM QUEENS
I'm just screaming on the inside

Lord's is abusive, tho. Utena isn't about breaking people (while it looks like she did it to Azul, it is more like she awakened some desires and Azul bounced back after being refused on the actual 'breaking') but Lord is all about that.

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"Well why didn't they just fight the rapist off?" For real people? I feel like I'm in a bad satirical sketch.

hey. as a rape survivor myself, i understand that trapped mentality. But the ending again belies the whole "she's a rapist" thing because she is STILL AROUND THE PRINCE. Once the situation was done, she didn't go anywhere but with the prince character.

Also, reread the original complaint. "I got involved with a girl that goes overboard with physical contact" notice then, when asked about the skinship, as the prince is sneaking behind her: "maybe i'm worrying too much?" Makes it clear the problem isn't being raped, just the sheer amount of how much happens (and it's pretty clear that it happens nearly every time they are together). Not the actions, but the frequency.

The kiss? "Hey, don't push it!" not "Don't kiss me!" more "not right now"

"Are you two dating?" doesn't get a 'no', either. just "Shut the fuck up, Momo!"

I see your point, however, it should be noted that the Prince was able to convince the MC that her actions amounted to simple “skinship,” and was a normal thing at an all-girls school pretty easily. It’s entirely possible that that she’s convinced the delinquent of of the same thing, which is why she is still around the Prince at the end. In which case the Prince becomes much more insidious.

Regardless, I honestly didn’t like this. I’m fine with the whole rape (?) thing (it’s a work of fiction, and I like works that sometimes toe the line of propriety), but this was just... boring. You send the entire work waiting for the MC to intervene in the situation in some way, but she just sits there like a big gay log, and things play out pretty much like they would if no one else was there. The observer narrator device worked well in the Great Gatsby, but not in this.

This does read like the precursor to a big gay threesome, true.

Sheesh people really don't like these types of things huh? Lol

It's almost like when you don't tag that a work has rape people who find rape gross will end up reading it and be unhappy about it.

^^As to my above post- id assume whoever tagged it didnt see it as rape- this delinquent who used to fight all the time let it happen. Why didnt she stop her? I bet she could waste the older girl easy.

"Well why didn't they just fight the rapist off?" For real people? I feel like I'm in a bad satirical sketch.

hey. as a rape survivor myself, i understand that trapped mentality. But the ending again belies the whole "she's a rapist" thing because she is STILL AROUND THE PRINCE. Once the situation was done, she didn't go anywhere but with the prince character.

Also, reread the original complaint. "I got involved with a girl that goes overboard with physical contact" notice then, when asked about the skinship, as the prince is sneaking behind her: "maybe i'm worrying too much?" Makes it clear the problem isn't being raped, just the sheer amount of how much happens (and it's pretty clear that it happens nearly every time they are together). Not the actions, but the frequency.

The kiss? "Hey, don't push it!" not "Don't kiss me!" more "not right now"

"Are you two dating?" doesn't get a 'no', either. just "Shut the fuck up, Momo!"

in short, everything reads as someone who just wants to be more private about it, while Tsukishima is very public instead.

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Maybe I misread it but I assumed the girl being groped actually wanted it even if she couldnt be honest about being into being a sub, and her objections were the normal 'stop- but i really dont want you to' that is fairly common in Japanese H works.

I mean she used to be a delinquent -still is obviously pretty tomboy/rough - who used to get into lots of fights etc- if she really wanted the senpai to stop wouldnt she have just kicked the shit out of her? She wasn't restrained.. I assumed thats why no rape tag- or why the friend who knows her didnt help?

yeah, overall same thoughts, including the fact that they are still together at the end during the....cookie display.

since Chiharu is a former delinquent, i'm pretty dang sure if she was really against it she'd easily beat the prince up. i mean, even after she's still staying physically near Tsukishima. Probably Chiharu is delinquent-style tsundere.

welp, now we're getting into "Good dominant vs bad dominant" territory.

BDSM tag where?

@SwagWagon hehehehe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRF11jznOVE

^Hey, original FFVII was breaking that same stereotype. Tifa was more developed, but acted like a shy virgin type. Aerith looked like the sweet girl, but was flirty as all get-out and was the one who came up with the idea of crossdressing Cloud. So Aerith being the top makes complete sense.

Ami/Makoto was definitely subtext. i mean, as early as the first season you had Makoto checking out Ami's ass.