I have two problems with this series, I don't like either of the main characters and I don't have any idea why I should like them.

What do you mean by like? They're supposed to be corporate psychopaths so if you expect any love or empathy you can expect to be disappointed for the foreseeable future, although I'm sure some character development will blossom between them at some point.

Are we finally gonna get more hate sex :D

Don't get your hopes up. I suspect that even if it does happen, it'll be over in three panels and we won't see any of the good parts in any case. But I'll be delighted if the author proves me wrong...

Yeah you can read the next chapter in japanese here: https://j-nbooks.jp/comic/original.php?oKey=187 the "sex" which is way more fighting than it is sex, is over in a couple panels because its more story based than it is erotic based. Unless they both calmed down and had normal sex and realised they loved each other or if there was any other important changes to their dynamic, theres no point in making it a long sex scene. It's not mean to be a hentai.

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Wow when I skimmed through the original japanese version I assumed Kayo had done something to significantly sabotage Junko's career to make her that angry. It turns out Junko just snitched on her and didn't get the result she wanted. Junko really is the crazy one here.

Damnit now I'm shipping maria and dorothy, dorothy and shanon and maria and shanon. Everybody just needs to fuck already

I'm not sorry that you have to hear people say that pedophilia makes them uncomfortable lol. If you want to look at anime pedophilia then go fuck off to 4chan and end up on a watch list lol.

That being said this conversation may be for naught. After reading this chapter, I'm not so sure that Kiki actually is meant to be a loli. Sure when she was introduced there were some jokes made about her looking like a child but she actually appears to just be a short woman after her true character has been revealed.

Also please for the love of god can this loli character please go away after this arc... lolis are the fucking worst characters both in concept alone and in content. The entire point of a loli is to just create a legally fuckable child and copy the aesthetics of pedophilia while pretending it's totally fine and has nothing to do with pedophilia. I'm very glad Shanon found her annoying because if they end up together then I'm dropping this manga like a sack of heavy shit. Honestly just make Dorothy end up with both maria and shanon. I'll take wholesome polyamory over ""legal"" pedophilia every fucking day of the week.

Thank you for saying this. Especially the last part, I really hate the inclusion of a loli character. Feels so out of place in a story like this (in any story, really), it's also downright just makes me uncomfortable. Very sick of people normalizing pedophilia. It's a horrible trope and practice. Without this character, I find the series interesting and enjoyable.

So is my reading off, or is dark-haired girl actually somewhat earnest and wanting to get along, do things well, while light-haired girl has a ton of internalized misogyny and is projecting on her?

I’m not sure still exactly how to place these characters, or what we’re supposed to think of them.

Well the entire point is to speculate over Kayos intentions isnt it? Is it possible that Kayo actually likes Junko in some way and is trying to make peace? Should Junko trust her? The point is to keep reading to see what unfolds.

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It's only been like 5 chapters and I'm absolutely obsessed with everything about this. I absolutely adore Sal Jiangs toxic and deranged characters and the insane relationships they develop. I've read over these chapters several times while waiting for this update and it seems like Kayo isnt as violent as Junko but more just playful, arrogant, cunning and competitive. Junko seems to be the one who is actually violent and unpredictable and may actually end up really physically hurting Kayo. It's very interesting that the more threatening and highly reactive character is the narrator here.

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I wouldnt give up so easily on Dorothy at this stage. I dont think shes a psychopath at all. The fact that shes throwing herself in front of the most dangerous monsters on earth despite the fact that she isnt even meant to be fighting, all for the sake of avenging a dead loved one shows that shes been carrying a huge amount of grief and heartbreak this entire time. Shanon herself has even pointed it out. She changed after her nursing mother was killed. I think that's when this perceived "psychopathy" appeared. But I think that it stems from Dorothy not wanting to be close to anyone ever again because she cant handle the possibility of another heartbreak.

Speaking of shanon, I think that Shanon loves dorothy for good reason. Shanon knows who Dorothy truly is because she knew her before her nursing mother died, and that shes seen Dorothy's emotional wellbeing and ability to maintain relationships decline ever since.

Dorothy also seems to genuinely care for Maria even though she says shes just a tool to her. Like when she sung a lullaby for her the morning after they had a rather heated night together. I think that the author is hinting to us that deep down Dorothy does feel for Maria but shes denying her feelings as much as she can.

Also please for the love of god can this loli character please go away after this arc... lolis are the fucking worst characters both in concept alone and in content. The entire point of a loli is to just create a legally fuckable child and copy the aesthetics of pedophilia while pretending it's totally fine and has nothing to do with pedophilia. I'm very glad Shanon found her annoying because if they end up together then I'm dropping this manga like a sack of heavy shit. Honestly just make Dorothy end up with both maria and shanon. I'll take wholesome polyamory over ""legal"" pedophilia every fucking day of the week.