I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Koyomi chapter so much but it ended up being surprisingly gay.

It actually was the opposite, Koyomi had a crush on the author because she thought she was a man. After discovering it's a woman her crush disappered but she realised the person behind the books is the same, and that her admiration for them would never vanish regardless of gender. At the she found a new motivation thanks to that.

Now I want a semi-sequel to this centered on Koyomi becoming an author and having an age-gap romance with Renma-sensei.

This would be great, not gonna happen sadly.

Thinking a person was a man when your thinking you're straight isn't actually a sign that you're not gay. Koyomi's inner thoughts leave it ambiguous as to whether she still has any lingering crush feelings despite Renma being a woman and it becomes more about her pride as a writer.

It could go either way is what I'm saying. It is quite possible that Nakatani might be writing from an experience she had since I believe (?) that Koyomi is the character that was loosely based on herself. (Can't recall who or when this was reported.)

And you're right, it is not going to happen. :[

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I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Koyomi chapter so much but it ended up being surprisingly gay.

Now I want a semi-sequel to this centered on Koyomi becoming an author and having an age-gap romance with Renma-sensei.

So Canno's poly couple is rushed and doesn't quite make sense at times...well, I can't blame her. It was a tough sell. All the poly couples I know are nowhere like the one she wrote into it, and frankly at this point I doubt any couple like the one Canno wrote even exists (she's very idealistic), but she tried!

I'd just take it as her biting off more than she could chew, not in her expertise, etc. Missing the mark is a part of growing and learning. It only really hurts if she were to continue writing something that caused a significant dip in ratings long term.

Best written thing I have seen similar to a poly is in Otoyomegatari one of the women asks her husband to marry her best friend as his 2nd wife so they can be together all the time (was getting some major gay vibes there but I guess the author didn't wanna get into that for historical accuracy). The writing is, what I would consider (maybe not everyone), miles away superior and it was still a difficult sell and I much preferred the other couples/women's stories. (If anyone is curious Otoyomegatari is written with the same story structure as this except it is het and set in 19th century Central Asia).

Well I'd argue that White Knight & Black Knight was her first "whatever" oneshot. This on the other hand was awesome.

Yeah I'd agree that this was pretty awesome. Yocchi's totally cute with her conflicting gayness. Gay enough to apparently be the top yet still conflicted.

I like how on page 9-10 of Chapter 34 Haine goes from walking in front and saying her aunt is too protective to suddenly hiding behind her.

Not a fan of the incest but it was better written than the polyamory chapters.

28th of August, right?

Raw for this month is out: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5244845924

Yuu held Touko's hand & "we can't stay this way." I'm having a moment. Also, Yuu looks so happy the entire chapter ; ;

EDIT: Oh btw, I notice something. Between this chap & chap 13, it seems like both Touko & Yuu are happiest when they get wet together.

Thanks!

Great pun. ;D

Happy ending drama doesn't sting so bad. :)

Isn't this a bit too much for Tomboy kinda thing? She really looks like a boy, I couldn't even think her as a girl.

But... she is a girl. I don't like the term 'tomboy' as it implies the same thought in your post. That is "a girl can't be a girl unless she fits the stereotypes and expectations". But not to make that an issue of discussion at the moment specifically, here 'tomboy' fits her fine and to me she's very much a girl. She is shown to be female so there's no good reason to say she isn't.

Girls tend to do less make-up and girly things at all girls schools from what I understand. Even the straight girls feel less pressure to do so with no boys present. Some will do it just because, but much less in general. So it seems quite accurate for all the girls do be doing their own thing.

I actually don't see why she should apologize. if you feel inferior, just get better.

Yeah, it is ambiguous what Yurine is apologizing for exactly, but I would guess it is more of a "I wish I'd been nicer to you about how much better I was."

It is also probably why ##### won't accept it. Being nicer wouldn't have changed the fact that Yurine was a lot better than her.

She didn't want Yurine to be nicer in the past, she wanted Yurine to just not exist. So an apology is meaningless.

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I really like this. The art style has a lot of character and people actually look their age and there isn't any stupid blantant fanservice.

It's starting slow, but that's realistic anyway. I can tell the characters apart more and more as I get used to it (big cast that it started out with is tough for anything).

Not enough set up for the characters before new ones are introduced. :(

Makes it sound like we're reading A Kiss and a White Lily lol.

This is not how you present your story, you don't start with a conflict and jump to another conflict that leads nowhere based in confusion and then shift the focus to a new character

In Chapter 1 I felt a little confused, but then Chapter 2 came out and I'm fine now. You guys might want to wait until there's some more chapters out and.... "leads nowhere"? Not sure where you're getting nowhere from? I thought stuff was linking together fine. The dark haired girl's ex-friend person? They're probably just another delinquent/SI couple to be worked on in the future, or at least I assumed that.

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From what I understand, ##### probably couldn't accept the apology because it wouldn't feel right: she would also need to apologize.

She knows what she did was bad too, but she can disguise that by making Yurine the eternal villain by not accepting her apology. Yurine is a better person than ##### even if ##### doesn't want to face reality that neither of them was very nice back in middle school (and, more presently, ##### still isn't nice).

On the other side, I'm the kind of person who, if someone fucks with me, will never again be giving them a chance to do so. However, if I see genuine regret, I will forgive the person, although I will be wary of them from then on. I can kinda see that girl's side, but what she did is just too extreme to me...

I think you have to keep in mind that apologizing like Yurine did is a sign that she changed as a person due to her growing up. I'm guessing a lot of us are older than the characters in the story and well...adults usually don't just go through sudden epiphanies that they are growing up and it is time to be a kind and more mature person. It either happened already or it won't ever happen for most people.

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Newest chapter is illustrating what "plain" means better. It pretty much means more practical and not over the top fabulous. Okabe is definitely very attractive but she isn't cabaret girl hair/high fashion clothing/tall/huge boobs. More plain = girl next door look. Attractive girl next door, but still next door.

The art is cute and Yukina seems pretty hot. I hope they stay together.

"Plain" manager my ass... manager is a 8/10 while Yuria is a 9/10. I call that a close game people. Almost like Warriors vs Cavaliers...

It's kinda implied that Manager is kind of....slightly butch? I could see that being termed plain by a lot of people. Especially by men.

My question at that point becomes "why is the title written from a man's perspective?!"

You could also interpret it as a personality trait having a plain personality type meaning generally serious and not being crazy. And I would assume lesbians see other women thru the eyes of a man to a degree like gay men see a hot guy with the eyes of a woman(half my family is gay and it's very weird going to the beach with a reunion)

I've usually found that straight men and sapphic women have markedly different perspectives when it comes to what they find attractive in a woman.

I'm going to have to agree with Majere. I've actually read some very interesting discussions on how if a girl views (from actions/words/comments, obviously can't get in their head) other girls the same way men do, she's probably faking her attraction to turn guys on because it is so markedly different from how women with genuine attraction to other women behave.

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"Plain" manager my ass... manager is a 8/10 while Yuria is a 9/10. I call that a close game people. Almost like Warriors vs Cavaliers...

It's kinda implied that Manager is kind of....slightly butch? I could see that being termed plain by a lot of people. Especially by men.

My question at that point becomes "why is the title written from a man's perspective?!"

It'd be nice if this had a cohesive story.

I believe it is just shorts published online for fun/free so it is doubtful they'll go through the stress of perfect story planning, but it is pretty good as is thankfully. :)

I hope this gets a real translation some time soon.
Goggled Anon's guess work with OCR and google translate just doesn't cut it.

Well I like it so I hope they keep doing it. Don't discourage free translations!

Yeah the art is actually good. After Chapter 1 I find myself hoping more and more for an update.

I think my initial confusion about the art was that for a bit there it was confusing who was who with so many characters being introduced at once and, not being super familiar with Thai names, being unable to remember them at a glance. Kind of reminds me of the way Casablanca starts because I was also super confused in the beginning, but Casablanca is ranked super high for greatest movies regardless (#1 for a lot of people).

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Kind of a slow and confusing start for 00 and 0.5, I see things actually start in Chapter 1 and begin to be good/make sense. The numbering makes a lot of sense now too.

Kurosawa appears in two chapters in a row? The end is nigh? Or maybe she's just there for a single page...

Hence "alleged".

Changing boyfriends often isn't alleged though. It is confirmed. Even Nikaidou confirms it. Kurumi's friend outright says there must be something wrong with Nikaidou's character, and that is probably the flag the author means for us to see.

I think the question here isn't what the readers think of alleged promiscuity (or even actual) so much as what the writer wants to communicate to the audience using that. What do they think of promiscuity? What do they believe their audience thinks of it? That's the real question.

I'd say that Nikaidou just feels empty inside and is looking for someone to fill the void. There's been no indication she's actually sleeping with any of her dates, but we do know she's a serial dater and if she'd rather try out dating the girl she just found out had a crush on her rather than be single for a whole 24 hour period then perhaps something is wrong emotionally.

What the "something wrong" is could be anyone's guess. Lesbian at heart and doesn't know it? Sexual abuse at home? General emptiness? Parents don't love her/never home? Not a clue. Need more chapters.

EDIT: Also, having serial boyfriends is not necessarily "promiscuity". Nikaidou could be dumping them all before sex, or be getting bored of them after having sex a few times. We just don't know yet.

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there is no such thing as a fat ugly stud.

Ron Jeremy would like a word.

I have heard that they choose ugly porn actors to have the male viewers feel like they could get those girls too. Then again, aren't all those girls paid? That's not a stud that's a homely dude getting his sex subsidized.

Out of topic but she looked hot letting her hair down

It was the effect of not having a cute-girl hairstyle and stopping smiling so she looked older/more hot/less cute/more depressing.

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