Yeah, probably this backstory should've been narrated earlier since pretty much all of us hate Hiroko and have made up our mind on the "she only rejected Ayaka to protect her public persona" plot line

I mean, that’s kinda the point. The author wants you to draw conclusions about the character and get comfortable with that assessment. That way, when the curtain is finally pulled back, you stop to reassess everything that led you to your previous assumptions and make sense of it in light of the new revelation and effectively un-make up our minds and engage with the story in order to see things in this new light. I personally think the author does a great job of it here, especially the way they manage to roll the lingering effects of old social norms (a thing that a lot of readers probably aren’t going to think about since it’s a work of fiction) to make you really realize how Hiroko’s seeming density and cowardice is a sort-of trauma response.

Also, who is this “us” you’re referring to?

All of that work is eclipsed by the effects she had on Ayaka and Risa's character with all its recrimination, it just pulls the balance all the other way round. Plus, now that that's off the debate, I don't think Hiroko was ever likeable at all, she's just dull like any other rom-com protagonist, with the only difference that it is a lesbian relationship and she's a woman so that's why people in this site still defends her.
And don't get me wrong, I think the backstory was pretty decent and solid, but there's no way I can forget all the things that happened with Ayaka or excuse them just for that reason. And notice it's not even an "I will", it's an "I can", because it's just imposible to erase all we've read until now and all the bad things she did to Ayaka, even with this excuse.
I reaffirm what I said, the backstory would have helped if it was hinted ages ago and narrated earlier, so we could start to understand her reactions, rather than when all the damage is done. And maybe it's fixable for Ayaka, but not for the readers.

And if you're looking for the "us" I mentioned, you can find them in the comments

A little bit over the top to say a 15/16 y/o girl slept with a bunch of other girls but alright

Just saying, teens’ sex lives can be pretty varied, from those that don’t engage on that stuff till later on, to those that are pretty “active”, to those that are pretty in between.

Precisely, so we gotta assume not only this Toki girl but her 3 partners had active sex lives and were all lesbian, forgetting basically the so called variation you mentioned and let's not even start with the sexuality thing, because there's other sexualities out there other than lesbian.
Plus, forgetting the sexuality stuff, I would say most teenagers don't have that kind of sex life at such young age, so it's even less probable.
I don't intend to make a rant, it just felt really over the top and unrealistic when she said that, actually I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Toki were to reveal that actually she was lying about that and they kicked her out for some other reason.

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Yeah, probably this backstory should've been narrated earlier since pretty much all of us hate Hiroko and have made up our mind on the "she only rejected Ayaka to protect her public persona" plot line

A little bit over the top to say a 15/16 y/o girl slept with a bunch of other girls but alright

That was painful to read, and it was extremely rushed in my opinion so L from Sal Jiang, I don't think they handled it correctly

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Hiroko gets some points back for finally getting her shit together and putting forward a serious, well-worded rejection.

I don't get the peepz who say Risa is no good or has no chance. There's nothing about her that is a red flag; in fact, when I try to recall what we know about her, I can only think of good things. So far, Ayaka and Risa are friends; and Ayaka doesn't think of her as a romantic interest because Hiroko is the only one for Ayaka right now... but it's a fact that Ayaka likes Risa a lot, and like can lead to like-like, and like-like can lead to love. Risa's time may very well come in the near future; there's no reason why it wouldn't.

It's not because she has no chances according to their characters, it's just because in this kind of setup, the friend who's secretly in love with the protag never ends up together with them

Well, at least she was honest about never being able to come out, still she's a douchebag

bro what

Mecha ?

I love this manga, it's fucking great

She comes out to you and you lie to her? Plus making her feel bad? No no, Hiroko is not likeable at all, she's just a piece of shit who only cares about her public persona

what does hatesex mean

Where is the Depressing as fuck tag?

Mizushima is a great character by the way

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Well, now that they made a refference to the new foo fighters, I hope they make one when the new qotsa comes out in 2 weeks

Kaguhara is the greatest manga protagonist and Mikamo is this series' best supporting character

it's fucking back let's goooooo

Incredible, the development in this chapter is one for the ages

If you think this chapter was frustrating, just you wait when someone comes explaining how Hiroko's way of thinking is completely understandable and you should look for another series because this isn't the type of rom-com for you, plus criticizing something is unallowed in this page since you could have simply "not click it"

I don't know what's with this recent Mayuyu x Mariri role reversal, but I like it so keep it going

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_wanna_quit_being_a_hitman_ch13#8 is just perfection

Noooo stop this is so cute, so precious (ToT) and so realistic too, when you're with that significative person you do whatever to prolongue your time with them (and that breaks my heart oh yeah it does)

This is solid as hell, I call it if the artwork was a little bit more "sharp" people would be all over this manga because the story, characters and dialogues are great

I don't think the Reversal tag fits in this story

IT'S ALL COMING DOWN TOGETHER!! HOLY SHIT!!

wait up so it was the church that was behind the killings after all huh?