How stupid Seju was back then, involved herself in Sumin x Redhead, a relationship that meant to be doom.

In other words, this reading of the title is not a yandere's practical intent to literally destroy a rival, but a tsundere's childish attempt to resolve her basic personality conflict by basically wishing it away.

This title somehow gives me a really sad feeling, my guess about it is pretty heart-rending. I hope I'm wrong and you are right about it.

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How do you relate the tittle to the tsundereness of the main characters at the start?

I think i worded it a bit wrong should have just said "I think the title is more alluding to the tsundereness of the main characters"

The title itself is hostile and tsundere trope characters are generally initially hostile from what i understand before they start to open up. So if they are having feelings towards each other of a "liking" nature wouldn't it make sense for them to blame the other therefore wishing the other didn't exist so they wouldn't have to feel that warmer side. Remember a tsundere character doesn't know they are fitting into a tsundere trope. Not sure if that made sense.

I'm not so sure about tsundere's way of thinking. But wishing the other not to exist just so that they wouldn't have to feel that warmer side is a little too much. I would expect that from yandere instead.

One line or two more about Sungji being perceptive, please, I really don't remember anything about it at all.

at the very beginning, she was able to know that Sumin was living alone,

She said she saw the electricity's invoices, water supply's invoices, etc, were sent to Sumin's workplace, that's the reason why she got that idea. But really, all of those things from my house were always sent to my father's shop, my father was not living alone in our house. When I moved to live with my brother, all of the invoices from his house were also sent to my brother's workplace, not the house. Using Sungji's perception, you would guess that my farther and my brother are living alone, which is false.

ch24, she got immediately that Sumin lacks frankness

Sumin hasn't been honest with her since the beginning, not to mention she almost got eaten alive by Sumin several times, yet she just found out about Sumin lacking of frankness in chapter 24.

again, bed talk in ch 46..

If you were talking about when Sungji was asking if she could ask Sumin everything, then Sumin paused a bit, and she then realized that Sumin couldn't agree with that. I personally think you don't necessarily need to be perceptive to read that kind of situation.

ch51conversation..

She said Sumin had given her her heart, yet in the chapter where she caught Sumin cheating, she said Sumin was always ready to leave her. That was a huge contradiction, wasn't it? Did she really ever understand Sumin?

was able to remember Seju's house code before she knew she would need it

She went back to Seju house again to bring Seju some medicines because Seju didn't have those in her house. There's no way she could know that she would need Seju's house password later since she couldn't possibly know about Seju having no medicine before entering the house and asking Seju if she had some.

then later, ch55 she kinda knew that Sumin was uneasy.

I'm not sure what happened in chapter 55.

If the title were It Would Be Great If "I" Don't Exist, I would have guessed that the "I" were referring to Gukhwa, but since it's "You", it gives me no clue.

I think the title is more alluding to the tsundereness of the main characters at the start. Though i'm not sure that is the actual title of the Manhwa.

How do you relate the tittle to the tsundereness of the main characters at the start?

One line or two more about Sungji being perceptive, please, I really don't remember anything about it at all.

If the title were It Would Be Great If "I" Don't Exist, I would have guessed that the "I" were referring to Gukhwa, but since it's "You", it gives me no clue.

I honestly don't remember about Sungji being smart and perceptive. As far as I can recall, only Nami and Dawoon's ex that have been shown to be perceptive.

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I'm sorry Sungji fans, I really don't mean to lookdown on Sungji, but seriously, I can't tell the difference between her and a typical teenager.

I do not see a reason why she will need to team up with her love rival, Sungji. It seems you guys overpower Sungji a bit too much. If Seju alone can't fight against her family, I do not see how her teaming up with Sungji ever can. Sungji's little force adding on Seju's immense strength won't make a difference. If they kidnap Sumin, all Sungji should do is to pray at home, and wait for Seju to save Sumin.

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It's Seju who decided not to fire her.

I can't imagine Seju falling for Sungji. Tbh, thus far I still can't believe the fact that Seju would let Sungji live with her bones intact. And regarding Sungji helping both of them, I don't think so, she is too kid-ish to play such a great role imo.

I'm not interested in finding out who she is. She is so un-hot imo.

"Gold star" not "Golden" iirc.

I've stopped liking reading wdtfs for quite a while now mainly thanks to endgame couple's sex story.

Doesn't matter what Seju thought, they had broken up (badly i might add) and Sumin attempted to have relationships with others which all failed due to numerous reasons. Including her own self.

As Sumin said they couldn't even end things properly.

Doesn't matter what Sumin thought. If she admitted that they couldn't end thing properly i.e, their relationship never ended. Sumin is still Seju's gf not ex.

Funnily enough the Manhwa makes me only dislike Seju but this thread makes me dislike Sumin as well.

I'm gonna make you dislike Sungji too. lol

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Seju never thought of Sumin as her ex gf though.

How should I know? It's what Nammi said - Seju could've use a different way, but she chose to hurt Sumin, badly.

How could Nami know though? And why should we believe there exists such different ways that wouldn't hurt Sumin? Seju didn't choose to hurt Sumin badly, she didn't order redhead's fiance to do so, it was he himself who chose to hurt her. Like I said, there also was a possibility that he would just break up with his fiance instead after he found out about his fiance cheating with a woman. Redhead too could chose Sumin over her fiance in the end. The fact that redhead's fiance would hurt Sumin, and redhead would chose her fiance over Sumin was not in Seju's control. This action of Seju's could bring different consequences, not just that one that happened, because it all depends on redhead and her fiance too. Just because the consequence it brought was bad wasn't enough to say that Seju meant it to happen that way.

Seju has been buying Sumin things since before they broke up. That's just a way rich people normally do towards their lovers.

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

Where does this question come from? lol I guess this is a rhetorical question asked just to imply that buying things for your lover is common?

What is that different way? If I were redhead's fiance I would have broken up with redhead, and that would result in Sumin could officially date redhead. Do you think everyone would act like redhead's fiance; physically hurt a woman? Did Seju tell redhead's fiance to do that?

What's else should she have said, "I'm not her friend, I'm her sugar mommy."? Sumin should have been honest with Sungji, but she just told Sungji that Seju was her "friend".

I remember the first time Sumin went back to Seju was when she was drunk while Seju was sleeping in her bed. I do not remember seeing Seju having used any sort of tricks to get her back at that time, so I don't think Seju ever even needs to use one in the first place.

No, this happened after Seju damaged her relationship with that redhead who was engaged to a man in a very painful way. That's why Sumin was so hurt.

No, she did has her tattoo when dating redhead. She went back to Seju way before that, when she still had her scars.

Sumin can't be easier to manipulate than I think because I have already picked the ultimate one. I personally think that the fact that Sumin was always easily manipulated by Seju was because she herself wanted to. There were things she gained from living her life that way; car, house, job, revange on Seju, etc, which was the main reason why the whole Seju manipulating her has processed very smoothly for the past 10 years. I remember the first time Sumin went back to Seju was when she was drunk while Seju was sleeping in her bed. I do not remember seeing Seju having used any sort of tricks to get her back at that time, so I don't think Seju ever even needs to use one in the first place. This whole Seju being manipulative apparently took place after Sumin herself went back to Seju.

I meant is that because back then Sumin kept comparing her new gf to Seju, that's the reason why she couldn't move on with her girl because there's no way someone as odinary as her could find a girl who was like Seju, rich, pretty, etc.

Personally, I see Sumin deliberately tried to live pathetically so that she could blame Seju for her misfortune. It's not like Seju is a pro in manipulating people or something, neither was Sumin so dumb to the point that she couldn't see it as her being manipulated by Seju. Sumin hate going back to Seju, but what else she could do? Her being too ordinary to date a gf who is close enough to Seju's level is a thing.

Seju has been buying Sumin things since before they broke up. That's just a way rich people normally do towards their lovers.

Seju asked to start over again, but Sumin refused. This happened before Sungji forgave her though, i.e, she could move on regardless of having another person to lean on.

There's nothing can prove that she was weak either though?