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Woa Murata can go NSFW too. Good surprise

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Lily Love discussion 20 Jan 10:56
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I'm so sorry about delay.
Because dead line comics contest 10th February
I have to choosed to focus on it.
^^"

Woa rts1519, thanks for letting us know. Totally didnt expect you to read our discussion here xD
Please focus on whats important and bring back some awards ^_^ Best wish of luck to you!!!!

P.s. Not to pressure you, but we're expecting hot, HOT, TOTALLY HOT scenes in chapter 29 because you just gave out such a sexy title ;)

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Lily Love discussion 20 Jan 04:13
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Lily Love is on small hiatus

What? How could she delay right after she released the next chapter's title as "In your arms All night"? Too much teasing gah.

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Hmm I didn't see these posts about Lily Love until someone mentioned this in shorter msg so I ctl+f title. And I wonder why... I know. Because I didn't have a reason to think we will discuss LL here because it's FLUTTERING FEELINGS thread :P sooo maybe next time could you write opinions about title there instead of text walls here xD?

Not for negative comments though lol. No need to bring another intense heated argument over there

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@pulpolar
Yeah, I agree. Seol-a has been her whole family's center of attention. She's her parents' pride. Man, maybe we'll be in for some huge commotion and drama. But then Ssamba always resolved issues in a non-dramatic way :->

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I see, yes, I think she is busy at the moment. I'll just wait patiently :D

Or read on those popular ad-filled manga sites who stole people's work lol. They just released up to chapter 37. You already bought the chapters for the support anyways :D

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I think anyone here can argue and have their own vastly different opinions on the quality of writing and presence or lack of extensive tropes that is FF. However I think one thing we can all agree on is that it sure as hell would be nice to see these two characters actually confront their feelings and to see them try to navigate a healthy relationship. Crush/confession stories are nice, but usually the love stories that end up making a lasting impression are ones that go beyond the confession and explore how the characters manage adversity in their relationship, and if/how they are able to overcome it. And as Nya-chan pointed out earlier, there are a dwindling amount of chapters left for this kind of story to be told. And it worries me.

Honestly at this point I'm just really in this story for the ride with no set destination in mind. I dont wanna have too many expectations for something that I have no control over.

But I have a feeling it will only take a few more chapters for both of them to realize it's mutual. Ina was introduced to buffer up the environment. The ex bf came out for the final push.

If you look at the past progression, it's really not that far reach:
1-19: initial impressions, clearing misunderstanding, establishing foundation for their "friendship"
20-35: Norae's struggle and acceptance of her feelings
36-50: Seola's realization and acceptance of her past and current feelings
51-current: final push for the mutual realization/confession? (We're only at chapter 60. Maybe 5/6 more chapters?)
next arc (my guess 65-80/85): being embarrassed and awkward with each other and got over it. (15 chapters is too long for this lol)
final arc (my guess 80/85-100): dating and surrounding reaction?

Woa, the thought of re-reading all 100 chapters in one sitting on some beautiful Saturday next year already seems so satisfying to me

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Nya-chan

Hey you love each other it seems. And this is crazy, but you should just confess! Or, you know, drop hints?

Hey you love each other it seems

Yeah No-rae blushed in the ferris wheel, it "seemed"

And this is crazy, you should just confess!

Hah! She did try!

But how could she confidently continue thinking it "seems" so after seeing this?

I wouldn't. Because in my real life I didn't either. No matter how pretty you are, you're still a girl. That's a sad fact for any girl who falls in love with another seemingly straight girl.

(I know Nya-chan couldn't care less, just thought I'd like to share)

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takachi (& Nya-chan)

How is the amount staggering? Can you point out another Shoujo manga of similar length with fewer tropes?

The length is irrelevant. I can point a shorter "manga" with maybe as many cliches, but a whole lot better written. That is Lily Love. The cliches are obvious, but the story flows naturally.

Couldn't even read the first chapter - it's one of those mangas that I really hated despite it being very well drawn so occasionally I kept trying to read it again and again, but kept dropping from the very first chapter. I just couldn't. And then I stopped caring about it completely, and today I'm very happy about that decision :)

It took me a while to keep reading Lily Love after chapter 1 too. I didnt like the art too much. But once I got past the art, I even followed its raw releases (being such a desperate yuri fan). But even so, I've never re-read a single translated chapter. I read the raw once, and the translated a few months after that, once. Nothing kept me coming back again. (Maybe in the future for some hot hot scenes at night haha)

For Seol-a, it's the drama of traffic accidents and death/betrayal of her girl friend. For No-rae it's the drama of her ex-boyfriend being injured and totally immature about their relationship.

And then... the past comes to haunt them, blah blah blah...

Meanwhile, the readers are left wondering when the fucking romance between the two characters is going to even start.

Because, for instance, Seol-a feels insecure and doesn't want to get rejected. She's worried. She doesn't want to get hurt. She cherishes her current relationship and is afraid to destroy it. Perhaps she thought she had a chance, but once the ex appeared, she realised the rejection was a lot more probable. I can 100% relate to such feelings, which makes the story for me 10 times more realistic and enjoyable.

As hurt as I think about my past, I went through the same emotions as Norae and Seola for over 5 years with the same girl. She was pretty and very confident on the surface (being an MC at many community events), but she had even a darker past that haunted her with abandonment issues. I was average looking girl with androgynous personality growing up with many insecurities trying to please others. Like Norae described Seola and herself, that girl and me were like "oil and water."
I've never read anything felt as real as FF (to me personally).
FF story is like a fantasy, a wish-come-true to my broken past, a peek at what could have been if she indeed (and not my never-ending guess and assumption) felt the same.

[...] the FF is really not about the action-driven plot, it's about the feelings and their gradual development, these fluttering emotions one feels when falls in love, and how they are expressed in various small life situations, e.g.
"Today we ate lunch together and she said something sweet, looked at me, and blushed, so I went all Kyaaa, what if she feels something for me! Could it be real? Nah, no way, I'm probably just imagining things. But perhaps she really does?"
One step forward, two steps back. And so on. It's clearly not for everyone.

Yup. Again, I went through the same thing in real life. Maybe the western culture wouldn't understand this.
I live in the States but I was born and raised in Asia; and that insecure mentality still haunts me till today.

Hey you love each other it seems. And this is crazy, but you should just confess! Or, you know, drop hints?

People are different. Some are afraid and are waiting for the romance to either develop naturally or die. If the other person is matching it may very well come to reality. Again, I can relate to it.

Me too. Like I said, I went through the same things for so many years. I dropped hints... and felt like she dropped some hints. But then BOOM... some guy appeared in her life. I stopped dropping hints and back to acting like a supporting best friend. Time after time. I must be stupid right? Yeah I know I was a fool. But my point is I'm real, and my personal experience was real. The emotions Seola and Norae went through might not seem real to some of you. But to me it hit so close to home.

I mean, the ex boyfriend disappared for a whole arc (weeks in story time?). WHY DIDN'T SEOL-A RESUME HER CONFESSION? Why would she care about an ex? All the more reason to confess. The readers are left to guess, hence the walls of text here full of guesswork and awe about "microexpressions". Nothing is exposed or explained. Fans clutch at straws in order to interpret what the hell these characters are thinking.

You won't believe it, but it's exactly why I love FF. The fact that you are not fed with direct explanations but things are left untold and you have to look for details to make your own opinion of what is going on, discuss this on the forum, and get more fun out of it. Did you guess right? Did you guess wrong? It's fun! It's a constant play with the author. And it's really something that some people love and adore, while others hate. And normally these categories don't understand each other well, because they like absolutely opposite things. And that's OK.

And I'm still at awe at Ssamba's ability to tell a story through subtle micro expressions. Really. That's one of the things that got me into FF in the first place. It's not for everyone, but to me it's what kept me re-reading it so many times.
Take WDTFS for example. Despite its beautiful characters, I most of the time cant tell what the characters are feeling without reading into the circumstances and the texts. In the new chapter 37, Nam was reflecting on Seju's cute expression, but I cant distinguish what made that moment of expression different from her other expression. She always looked like that to me.

I hope Ssamba gets to the juicy part fast, because time is running out. Unless she lied and makes 200 chapters after all.

The juicy part were happening in all 60 chapters. So if you still haven't found it juicy, I wouldn't expect any juice for you at all in the FF. And it's OK. It's just not your thing, really. And I mean it, it's not bad. It's great that you're different and enjoy other stories. And there are tons of other people like you. So really, take it easy and enjoy the stories that you like more. We will neither hate you for that, nor will we stop loving FF for what it is, what it's been, and what it will be.

Amen

P.S. takachi, I love you for being you and for speaking up your wonderful opinions ;-> lol

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Fan comic of Chapter 60 by cccipp:

http://dynasty-scans.com/forum/posts/154698

 
Also check out other recent fan art!

Just so funny. "Was I cool?" That sounded just like Seola lol

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Omg that last comic was so funny. How did you find it so quick? It didnt even come up in my tumblr search.
Thanks for sharing

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The author is dragging this out much longer than necessary.

I can agree with this. I think even korean readers think so too, cause I see less and less likes for ech new chapter on comico.

I think the number of likes of each chapter is not important. The important thing is people still read it lol. Even I myself didnt click "like" on the chapters I didnt like. Nonetheless FF is still my favorite manhwa.

If you check japan comico, the most liked chapter is chapter 43 with almost 50,000 likes. Chapter 41 and below never got more than 25,000 likes. It varies after Chapter 44. Funny heh?

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Citrus discussion 19 Jan 13:42
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There are two parts of new chapter. Enjoy reading it !
Part 1 :http://m.buka.cn/manga.php?mid=202796&cid=65556&page=1
Part 2 :http://m.buka.cn/manga.php?mid=202796&cid=65556&name=&page=2

Now its tolerable for my yuri thirst. I'm so desperate.

ieeheh
Tanjiu discussion 19 Jan 13:04
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Tan Jiu is pretty.
Her art is gorgeous it pops my eyes.
Made me so jealous of talented pretty people

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Its on Yuri-Hime people; it will never have het three some. The boys are there for the suspense and drama twists.

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Their Story discussion 19 Jan 12:43
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Masterpiece.

I dont think its a masterpiece myself. But the art is so gorgegous.

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Their Story discussion 19 Jan 02:27
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Sooo... I'm confused are they going out now?

No (not yet), QT just rejected her. It seemed like they're just trying to be friends, trying to act chill. But SJ hasn't given up of course. Hopefully next update won't be a yaoi "filler" lol

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ffins07

P.P.P.S. How are people linking to specific posts?

Well, if you don't use the script like T-sama, you could manually do it.
Every post has a time stamp with hyperlink (to the right of the username of the poster). You could right click on the time stamp and copy the link of that post.
As with the formatting, you should refer to here
And just let this argument with Nya-chan go. There's no need to change her mind. We still think FF is a good story on its own merits. Or else Nez-mom will be freaking scary

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Nya-chan

  • The characters being drunk. Or with a cold.

wait, characters being drunk or with a cold is a cliche? what????

Oh my gosh, you must have not been familiar with Korean college life. I studied in the States and I used to hang out with a group of Korean international students in my first year of college. They were mostly seniors. Most of the girls seemed so feminine and girly, but when it comes to drinking, they always initiated first or never declined an invitation to drinking party (sitting around in the dorm room and sneakily drink, not like party party drinking if you know what i mean lol)

What happened was that we ended up with a cold in the winter quite often haha. DayQuil and NyQuil were our miracle cures. Gosh I miss college life

And spreading rumors among students seems to be a Korean (Asian) thing. I've just started reading Cheese in the Trap and it's mentioned quite often there too.

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@ieeheh, please keep posting these, I love re-reading all these scenes :D

I totally support you.
I love reading stuff like that again and even more when others explain and let us know what they are thinking and what they see through the draw.

I'm glad I was able to help you pass another day of waiting for the next chapter of FF xD So per your request, I'll march on.

I found Seola got a lot of mood swing moments because of Norae. Today I'd like to remind you one of my favorites

MT mood swings

The trip started out well. Seola watched and admired Norae's new hair cut from afar:


Then taken surprised at the girls' "generosity" of letting her join the group

(Poor Seola, acted as if she never belonged to a girl group)



(she blushed didn't she? maybe her first subconscious thought was her leaning on Norae's shoulders lol my wish)

But immediately turned to...


what a drastic mood swing

Watching this...

Worried about Norae's hurting her neck, and telling herself


(yeah right, even I don't want to see that sh!t)

Then got separated from Norae through out the whole day and night, she could only took a peak at Norae from afar:


(Seola usually looked so intense staring or peaking at Norae)


ouch seeing Jihwan and Norae didn't make her look so well, but she tried to stick around Norae's vicinity throughout the rest of the night anyway

and had to see another unpleasant scene until Norae went to bed


(yeah, what the hell were you doing?)

then desperately and boldly watching Norae sleep and pondering on her internal turmoil

What could made my Seola's seemingly shitty MT trip be ok again? Well, it's easy. Walking with Norae watching sunrise is its own magic trick to Seola's mood swing



Even got their first selfie

(I wondered if she ever showed to Min-jeong)

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How cute <3

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takachi

No mocking. Just teasing ;)

HAHAHAHAHA!! ieeheh, you know, I love you!!! HUUUUUUUG!!!

But back to the topic. What I've found really nice in the last chapters, something I've missed a chance to point out myself - perhaps you all here have already discussed it - is how Seol-a's expressions have matured and become a lot more serious. Of course it could simply be that Ssamba was forced to make a difference with Ina, but it really suits her. You can really tell how much Seol-a takes care of No-rae, how much affection and feelings she has. I really hope the girls will make a step forward in their relationship after this arc. They are so sweet together.

I love you too... for loving me lol

If anything, I already felt Seola started to change since the umbrella scene, just right before the bus accident. She just shoved it in Norae's backpack, worrying about Norae's getting home with the chance of sleet. Norae even called her mom lol. At that moment I wished Seola were my gf lol. I think Ssamba showed her getting call from Min-jeong only to tell us that she had plans outside with her friend afterwards but "sacrificed" her umbrella to Norae instead. Ssamba always got me at little things like that.

First sign of Seola's acceptance of her feelings and affection for Norae was the sushi baiting scene:

The way she touched Norae and her eyes showed so much affection, yet I can't help but see she wasn't truly/innocently happy anymore.

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Honestly, I personally don't romantically like people so seeing a protagonist who shares a lot of thoughts and feelings on romance like me is quite nice.

Maybe I'll fall for you

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Ok if I misunderstood Nya-chan, I'd apologize.

For now I'll go collect Seol-a's screenshots at work instead of continue this unnecessary discussion about how bad my favorite manhwa is.

I actually wanted to get some screenshots of Enah acting all suspicious and put this meme on the top

Sorry MacySan you know I can't spend my work time on a Seol-a doppelganger. It has to be Seol-a.

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Thiaguinho-sama:

[...] if people will act like fandumbs?

You can't have fandom without fandumb durrr lolo

"Lovers are fools, but Nature makes them so."