I vote against tags which spoil. In this case it ruins a huge part of the emotional delivery of the story.

Something I thought about too. I'll remove Tragedy for now, but mods can decide later whether to reinstate that.

Good idea, I was about to say this needs a supernatural tag, but maybe not.

Chapter 20 reminds me of...
" I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Surely they have credit cards in Japan...? But that face on https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/its_tough_being_neeko_ch03#14 made me laugh.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins posted:

Except no one did that. People here seem divided between those who liked the characters and the story, those who liked the story but disliked the characters, and those who just flat out disliked the whole thing. But even amongst people who are in the first category, such as myself, no one was defending cheating, much less treated it as something to be encouraged. You are seeing things that are just not present.

People shitting on people who are saying cheating is a shitty thing to do and that both these characters are extremely shitty people for doing it suggests otherwise. If that's not what they're meaning to do then they should be more careful trying to get their point across.

False dichotomy.

RPPuzzle posted:

Nya-chan said:

OR, he's a genuinely good guy that married Kaoru because he knew that she and his sister needed each other and had a special relationship and if he didn't marry her, they would eventually drift apart.

So, if at first he turned down Kaoru several times, because he didn't particularly like her, he changed his mind when he noticed how the relationship between Kaoru and his sister was evolving. It's been hinted that he actually knows something.

So, all this time, he was preparing for the future and by playing the (cheating) bad guy, he planned to fade in the background and unite Kaoru and Uta.

Who knows. I've read more complicated setups.

This is the first scenario I thought of. People poking holes in it is sound, but I am curious what factor led to both of us thinking this, and others not even considering it a possibility? Are we both women? Are we both from religious backgrounds, or just really idealistic about wanting humanity to be altruistic? Hmm...

This sounds like something the Yuri Danshi guy would do, but probably not gonna happen in this piece since the plot feels just a little bit too serious for it.

I like how they stop walking at the same time in the end.

This kind of makes me want to read Welcome to the NHK again. I personally feel somewhat close to Neeko, but I guess in the real world being a NEET is not as relaxing as it is portrayed in the manga.

I've spent 3.5 years being a NEET (the only reason it wasn't longer was because I had spent the few years before in university, so I had one of the E's), had problems with depression/anxiety, and it was like trying to dig yourself out of an ever-expanding hole. The problem is you had several problems interacting with each other and it formed a downward spiral that gained momentum every passing day. My mental condition would affect my sleep, which in turn makes serious work almost impossible, which then means no progress and further anxiety and even less sleep at night.

Eventually I found a combination of meds that worked for me after the so-called "med-go-round", when doctors prescribe random combinations of stuff and hope to find one that works (the meds were not random, but the effects were totally random). From there, I gradually started trying to find work again, but then I ran into social anxiety...

It wasn't obvious when I was spending most of my days at home, but not talking to people for a long time will make you... forget how. I had trouble meeting people's eyes when I talked. So after some thought I enrolled myself in school again: I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone, I can reconnect with society and learn to develop software at the same time. That was last year. And here we are at this point in time.

In a bit less than 6 months, hopefully I can find the job I've always wanted, and finally go from one of the E's to the other E. It will have taken 5 years to dig the hole, jump in and dig myself out, but I'm glad I did this instead of throwing myself down the 17th floor a few years back.

So what's my point of writing all this... I guess just to say that some people aren't choosing to be NEET.

Like Neeko, I played video games, read manga, watched TV shows and all that, but I did that because I needed the distraction, not because that's how I wanted to spend my day. I too wanted to go out and be an independent human being. Knowing it's a manga, hopefully Neeko has a better time than I did overcoming her adversity.

Serenata posted:

I don't feel bad for her anymore haha, she just wants to have it easy.

I assume you haven't experienced severe anxiety? Cause it's pretty obvious she has some sort of legitimate anxiety issue rather than simply wanting to have it easy.

Thinking about it, isn't the idea here that we're supposed to find extreme anxiety funny?

Sounds kinda mean when you look at it that way.

Now that I think about it, a significant part of comedy is about finding other people's misfortunes to be funny. I don't know where most people draw the line, but it's probably okay to laugh when the misfortune can be easily overcome.

In Neeko's case, there's no telling whether she'll be able to overcome her social anxiety easily, but I think she has a pretty good chance since people around her seemed supportive.

That was way too bland.

"I HAVE MICHAEL'S HEART!"

But seriously.. A story like this often elaborates on the aftermath that surrounds the accident/death or the events leading up to it, to flesh out the characters and make the viewer care about them. Since this story is just about the accident, what I essentially felt from this story is.. nothing.

Implied watersports?

Yui7
Double check for angst and tragedy tags
Hmm that went better than I expected

Well I was going to say something about the plot, but then I figured if I have nothing good to say, I might as well show myself out.

cya

Homura stays very humble in the author notes at the volumes end, what a guy!

Hmm it's good to have a translator who speaks English well for a change.

For all you non-believers, there is still time to repent, because there is much sugar ahead.

I was wondering when this one would get a translation. For those of you asking for a sequel.. Rest assured that it has a minimum of 8 chapters.

Very generic and character development is nonexistent

Not the het rape I expected.. so it turned out to be pretty ok for me.

I like Mochi au Lait, but it feels like someone who specializes only in easily shareable candy is being hailed as the greatest chef.

On the other hand, if someone's thing is making candy, and they're great at it, why shouldn't they be praised above others? Should an author be evaluated on the basis of what they're not, in addition to what they are? Serious question, you might have a valid point here.

Is it better to make stuff that most people can enjoy a little, or stuff that only a few people can enjoy a lot? Utilitarianism suggests the best way is to maximize the utility (or enjoyment derived), but people aren't good at quantifying utility. The human mind usually only makes a distinction between like and don't like when it's not paying attention, which is probably why popular stuff usually sells more than the really good stuff.

Funny, I use half of those keywords too when I search for porn.

Fun fact: in the afterwords of "the secret love of my girlfriend and I", the author said this story is based on the real experience of her friend. She also talked about how her friend didn't care if she published the story using her real name.

That might explain why there's no real context because it may very well have ended badly, being real life and all.

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Is reasons like this why the wholeTsundere thing pissed the fuck out of me. Always someone ends up hurt, all because you were too proud and too embarrased to say kind words

Tsundere is a character flaw to be overcome, not a desirable personality trait that makes you cute.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "tsun" was the character flaw and the "dere" part was all cute.

To be honest, I think those 4 pages could have been put anywhere and it wouldn't feel out of place.

I swear, last time when I read this in a different language, these girls didn't seem so ... Bitchy...

I don't know what changed, maybe it's on the second read that I realized the main girl WAS trying to weasel her way out of the collision situation, and the manager was also leveraging the situation to try and get her to work at the cafe. And the two side characters with fake personalities probably didn't help either..

Maybe it's time to review the other version I read..

Never mind.. they aren't actually bitchy, they are just tsundere.