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Maybe it's like Loveless and your ears fall off after you do a fuck. /joking

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Yeah, no ears, hair's different, and no collar. Must some other lolicon work Itou Hachi has created.

Ah, my bad, she looked similar so I thought it was some post-series thing Itou was doing.

Also I didn't see it on 4chan I just make sure to grab anything cute Itou tweets that I'm around for before they can delete it.

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Look's like Itou is working on another doujin of this series

qwertyuiop

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Kaoru's family comment in the latest chapter crushed my fuckin' heart

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I mean even if the characters are high schoolers it was definitely going for a loli art style especially with the bear panties and stuff.

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im loving this already

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I miss this manga. It was perfect to me. It deserves an anime but isn't lewd or controversial enough to get one.

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I mean Master-sama is kinda redundant

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I mean this has some underlying similarities with Strawberry Marshmallow and Strawberry Marshmallow was super successful so it's not too surprising tbh

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Also like if yer gonna complain about black girl slang being in this. A lot of black girl slang gets appropriated by queers and then becomes a normal part of the lexicon of queer circles. That Mari, a character who literally doesn't talk normally to begin with (SHIIIIIIINY~~~), would adopt this slang doesn't feel out of place. Meanwhile You has a very casual way of talking while Yohane maintains some of her persona in how she talks in this. "It is so." and "As she says." are good examples of that.

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the use of combinations of phrases no one person would ever say

yer hangin out with the wrong people

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The dialogue in this was good, reminded me of some of the ways my friends and I goof off.

Anyway the various kinds of slang seemed specific to particular characters for the most part.

Anyway, it was futa but reminded me of trans girl humor so I enjoyed it.

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oh no im crying forever after reading this and the kyousaya one

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as a lesbian i don't fucking appreciate someone painting us or grouping us in as pedophiles especially since they do that to gay men to trans people already saying THINK OF THE CHILDREN THEY MIGHT HURT like this isn't fucking helping

I mean I think it's fair to be bothered or to hate it or whatever, tho I want to make the point that it's not really painting lesbians as pedophiles to fetishize a relationship between an adult woman and a young girl. Fetishizing a certain dynamic feels different from characterizing a group as being guilty of it. It's more an issue of that if your work itself states or sends the message that lesbians are all like that.

But also I disagree with the implication that this contributes to that characterization of queer people because some porn posted to Twitter and then deleted shortly after doesn't really influence perception one way or another. It doesn't have the platform or exposure to have influence. I would say that the serialized Master and Mel stuff could maybe be argued to have that influence, tho to be honest I'd still disagree. I'd say it probably has to be like on TV or just super super mainstream before you're having any sort of significant effect. Anyway, regardless the porn wouldn't actually be much of an issue as much as the series itself.

Like I'm queer as fuck and I don't think this is hurting our image.

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I'm excited for more of this

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this is a good read

excited for more

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Having done a little bit of research on censorship, I can tell you that censors never ever say, "This thing should be banned because it has harmful effect on me." The argument is always made that some other group (less empowered, weaker-willed, less moral, "at-risk," whatever) out there will be affected.

I'm saying nothing here about the media-effects argument--people have been arguing about it since time immemorial, and it's much too complicated and ambiguous for me to pretend that I have anything useful to add. But it's worth remembering that the argument for censorship is always: "I say this is bad not because it's directly harmful to me, but on behalf of Them, those Others who are not as ______ as I am."

Oh I'm 100% susceptible to this. Literally everyone is. We're just susceptible to different things in different ways. Everyone has biases, and are vulnerable to media reinforcing those biases, or building on those biases to push towards a particular endpoint. I wasn't saying "other people are" I was just providing examples of media that does have an effect on some people. Other media has other effects on other people. We all have shit like this going on in our heads, and anyone who says they don't is lying to themselves. It's just not "Mortal Kombat makes kids do a violence."

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Just to be clear I disagree basically 100% with Nevri about pedophilia stuff. Even the most well-intentioned adult-child relationship runs the risk of trauma and putting the child through a lot of things they aren't emotionally ready for. Relationships can be rocky and messy and hard, regardless of who is in them. There's a difference of power to consider as well, not just physical, but kids are raised to listen to adults. Even if you didn't deliberately coerce the child, you'd have a lot more control over the relationship. That's just a fact.

All this amounts to that any relationship between an adult and a child is basically the adult deciding it's worth the risk of the child having to go through all this, because the adult wants that relationship. It's extremely selfish. This is even if there's no sex in the relationship. Even if the child might want that relationship too, hypothetically speaking, they're less emotionally equipped to make that decision and to handle any problems that might arise.

I also believe media can affect us without it being the fault of bad parenting. Propaganda works for a reason. Military working with Hollywood has also been very successful at increasing military enlisting in the past. A big part of it is personal biases everyone has, so media that contradicts your personal biases may not affect you much, but media might push you further along a trajectory you're already on. It's complicated.

I'm not saying loli makes you into a pedophile obviously. I'm not saying GTA or DOOM make you violent. More like, "Military shooters likely influence how people perceive the military" or "Stuff like 24 likely influenced people to be more okay with government torturing people." Not everyone, but people who were susceptible to those messages cuz they fit their existing biases.

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Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

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lol I'm talking about child porn alone here. Sorry I'm not accepting of this illegal content as ya'll.

Just on a personal note, I'm fine with you being against loli stuff, but I do wish you'd stop calling it child porn in a way that conflates it with actual photos/videos of child sexual abuse.

A lot of people conflate them under the same term in a deliberately obfuscating fashion, and doing so erases precisely what makes photos/videos of child sexual abuse so bad: The abuse having happened to make that stuff, that there is a victim created in the process who not only has to deal with the trauma in a world that doesn't really care about the victims, that victims have to live with the knowledge that not only may this stuff be out there long after their abuse ends but could even outlive them, and that the person who made this stuff very likely can and will abuse again.

Loli art doesn't do any of those things. So even if you think it's bad and should be illegal or whatever, it's super shitty to conflate it with actual abuse stuff.

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Anyway, can y'all actually promise me you don't feel sexual attraction for actual kids?

I don't feel attraction for actual kids.

I still can't understand why would you like to read this kind of things

Cuz I was sexually abused as a kid and it's pleasant to think about if it'd been something hot or romantic with an older girl/woman I had feelings for, as opposed to the reality of a guy I trusted repeatedly pressuring and coercing me to do sexual stuff I didn't understand. It's immersing myself into a fantasy alternative of what happened.

Plus in a manga context it's divorced enough from reality that it's easier to treat it as a fantasy. There's also the plus side of as it's a fantasy and not real, I can opt out. I can decide I don't like this and stop the fantasy to get away. It's a lot harder to do in real life situations.

A pleasant fantasy where I can have control and boundaries. That's the reason I like it.

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It's fucked up in het and it's fucked up in yuri
Basically.

^^^^^^^^
For all of y’all with double standards. I bet you wouldn’t feel the same if “Master” was a man

I mean this is a site that focus on yuri so it wouldn't belong here. But if it was on exhentai I wouldn't really give a shit.

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And I thought ppl on this site were better than those sick male otakus who have wet dreams about fucking their favorite 8 year old anime girl

Of course I'm better, I have wet dreams about being an 8 year old anime girl.

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It's complicated. Being into this doesn't de facto represent an attraction to actual kids. I mean, for one it's not visually realistic. Just as people who are into anime guro don't necessarily want to see actual gore or cause actual mutilation and stuff. Being drawn can make it enough of its own thing that it isn't necessarily reflective of anything other than being into the drawn stuff.

There's also the layer of if you see yourself as audience to what's depicted, or identify with the adult, or identify with the child. Wanting to be small and be fucked by an adult is different from wanting to be an adult and fuck a kid. Since, you know, in the former case you want to be fucked by an adult.

tldr: shit's complicated and you don't know other people's minds

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but is it canon

Its not cannon to the story yet - as far as we have seen in the story they have not become intimate- tho these suggest it will happen like it did in the earlier version of the story - though I bet in the actual story we wont see much more beyond kissing, same as last time - since it is for magazine publication I assume.

As it stands this is just a collection of the loose nsfw images from the authors pixiv that someone has stuck together as far as I can tell - not an official release or anything.

I think these were actually tweeted and then people uploaded them to various hosting sites. Itou has a tendency of tweeting stuff then deleting it and on Gelbooru the images are sourced to Twitter links that don't work. If they are canon, it's definitely after the end of the series. (The series is over, just not fully translated.)