I'm not imposing my opinion, I'm stating the medical fact.

Well, I'm a medicine student and also member of the psychiatry league in my college, and as far as "medical facts" go, the issue of transgender people would be much better categorized as a "medical debate". I have met several psychiatrists who also support depathologization of transgender identities, and I have met my fair share of people who oppose this idea. There is no medical consensus about who are or what characterizes transgender people, the debate is quite heated and it's hard to point out anything as an uncontroversial fact.

So, yeah, it's your opinion.

Quite disingenuous. Your impression of the debate as a med student doesn't cancel out what is currently on paper. Nevri is referring to how GID/GD is currently described and handled pretty much exactly. The DSM isn't "just your opinion".

As to gay trans men, I gather large doses of testosterone and uteruses (uterii?) don't get along all that well, which is what killed Robert Eads, subject of the documentary Southern Comfort. So you've may have questionable egg viability, again depending a lot on circumstances.

It's thrown around a lot but there's really no proof for the testosterone = female reproductive organ cancer thing. There are cancers that respond to androgens but the same is true for estrogen and those are diminished greatly since testosterone suppresses estrogen production. Robert Eads died because he was refused treatment.

The vast majority of trans men don't want to get pregnant anyway though. Stories about "pregnant men" caused quite the media circus but it's still incredibly rare. Combined with the fact that egg harvesting requires being injected with large doses of female hormones and surrogacy is mostly illegal, having biological offpsring becomes very difficult when compared to trans women.

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Meh. At least Ecchan is aware that the object of her affections is a terrible person.

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Doesn't mean he wants to be a girl. He just wants to look like one. Look like his sisters.

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it's creepy because, even if Yuzu were to take Mimika's advances and accept them, she's not yet on the point of her life to reach an understanding of what's going on.

Again with this "magical age" apparently every human has to reach before suddenly understanding everything that comes with romantic/sexual feelings. I don't wanna complain too much though, it just bugs me how often the argument gets used. :/

Seriously though, at the age Yuzu is at her brain literally hasn't even fully formed yet, particularly the prefrontal cortex which covers decision making and impulse control, and she wouldn't have gone through puberty either. She's the very definition of unable to give informed consent. In terms of cognitive ability, the "magical age" of 18 is actually rounding down.

I feel like this argument works against you here since it underlines how arbitrary the cutoff points societies have chosen are. As you say even 18 is "rounding down" development wise. The brain, and specifically the prefrontal cortex doesn't finish developing until the mid to late 20s. So why do I not see campaigns to raise the age of consent to 25?

all in bruises with dead eyes on her face? I assume her previous family was a life of physical and emotional abuse.

I just assumed the bruising came from also being involved in the accident which killed her father.

Age gap is tricky. It can be uncomfortable depending on how it's done.

This one is well done and I don't feel the creepiness you are all talking about.

from the legal standpoint, the 41 years old woman would go to jail if they lived in the states. 16 years old is not mature to enter into a relationship with an adult.

Uh no. Age of consent is 16 almost everywhere (lower in some countries) and in most states anyway.

If she was under 16, yeah. But since she's over 16 and the relationship is not abusive (or exploitative), this is legal.

In Canada, the age of consent is 18, with exceptions for very specific circumstances. Effectively, the same is true of Japan (as laid out in the Children Welfare Act). Pretty certain it's very much the same in many other countries.

18 is high and pretty rare in the Western world. The age of consent in Canada isn't 18 either, it's 16. Exceptions apply the other way around and disallow sexual relationships if the older person is in a position of trust or being exploitative.

Did the last page imply that she isn't better at all?

The question is, was there ever any fixing required?

it's a very cissexist way of thinking and im glad somebody else commented on it

if two girls ceases to be yuri because one has a dick, it feels the same as saying the one with a dick has ceased to be a girl, and what does that say about girls in the real world who do have dicks

Nothing, because they're not part of a fetish porn comic. Futa =/= trans.

Meh. Too much dildo focus.

Ok author, unless you somehow follow that up in a way that makes sense next chapter, welcome to my shit list. That was just about the dumbest thing you could have possibly done. Why not just leave it at Tomocchi trying to out-do Parou? Just why?

I don't think this story is supposed to be taken seriously. Both of them are caricatures.

It's probably not meant that way but I'd like to think Tomocchi said "no" when prompted by Akane because she said Yuuta, and the one he likes is Marika.

They were both wrong, anyway. While GID/GD is a psychiatric diagnosis it isn't actually a psychological issue. Neurobiology is the field you're looking for. So I'd suggest to look it up and learn something instead of arguing.

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#NotAllBisexuals

A minor doing things with a minor is still pedophilia if one of them doesn't have the age of consent in that particular place.

No. Age of consent is completely unrelated to the definition of that word. Shio is also wearing a school uniform so she must be at least a middle schooler. Maybe illegal but no pedophilia.

Damn, creep levels went through the roof.

I remember reading something like this a few months ago, a girl who worked at a flower shop and saved money to sleep with the girl she liked and then that girl did not want the money ?.

Yeah, that's a one-shot by Shuninta: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/not_for_sale

The lack of use of dental dams and such in real life is understandable. There's no risk of pregnancy and unlike MSM, WSW have the lowest incidence of passing on STDs. There is mostly no need to make a big deal out of it unless you're fairly promiscuous. The girl in this story seems to regularly have sex with male strangers so it may have been a reasonable precaution, but then, it's fiction...

What the fuck Shou? Possible sequel or not, that was just plain lazy. Will I ever read a manga that has a satisfying ending?

Well that's unpleasant. It really grates on me when "cute" is elongated with extra e's instead of u's. . .

Rather than unlikeable, I'd say that she's... realistic? Being the odd one out is really rough when you're a kid. Not everybody is built to be a Kuroneko.

How does being realistic make her any more likeable? Kids like that exist in real life, yeah, and I'd also call them spineless cowards. Cause that's what they are.

Blonde MC is in need of some slaps, maybe she'll grow a spine then. Talk about being an unlikeable character. Poor love interest.

Actually, It's understandable that Yoshino's case is confusing a lot of people. Because the reasons she wants to be a boy are not really clear. Saori points out that she's just like any other girl, getting excited over a confession from a boy. She does not have the mind of a boy. She just wants to look like one. Up til highschool, she's aromantic and asexual. She says she wants a dick, but for what purpose? It's not because she wants to fuck a girl. To be more like a boy, so she doesn't feel like betraying Shuu? She's really indecisive. If anything, I'd say she's practically intersexual in her mind, somewhere in the middle of the road. In the end, Yoshino's choices may all revolve around Shuu. When she gives up on Shuu and so on her desire to be a boy, she "settles" for her genetic gender and cries, because it's the only thing that connected her to Shuu. She's not cured, she just grows up.

Well I'll give it one more shot then leave the offtopic behind I guess, considering the tension above...

Why would you take what Saori says at face value? I honestly don't dislike Saori as a character but she can be a real bitch. You know she does, throughout the whole story, hold some degree of antipathy and jealousy towards Takatsuki. Not only that, she also espouses a bunch of rather transphobic things (pressing Shuu with questions like "so what are you gonna do, get surgery?").

A lot of her interactions with Takatsuki can be read as her trying to undermine and deny her male identity, the thing which "connects" Takatsuki to Shuu and which Saori lacks. Grow your hair out, you're just excited because a boy confessed to you (which is obviously not what went down), generally attacking her masculinity (like condescending "I guess there are guys like that"), jumping at the chance to feminise her etc. All of this just reads as passive-aggressive teenage girl antics to me not as Saori being the oracle who can read all her friends' emotions and intentions perfectly.

Next, your assertion that Takatsuki's choices revolve around her connection with Shuu is just flat out wrong. In fact Shuu is the one who is inspired by her in the very beginning of the manga. She dresses like a boy. People call her Takatsuki-kun. She's the one who started the trips while crossdressing, all on her own to boot. She's elated when a woman hits on her thinking she's a middle school boy. All of this happens before Shuu is truly in the picture. The betrayal angle only comes into play at the very end of the story.

I also don't think there's any need to reach for terms like "asexual or aromantic" when you're talking about a elementary/middle school kid, that's just being a late bloomer. Nez already addressed it so I'll let the heterosexist angle slide but generally when a trans person says they want x feature of their identified sex it's not because they want to fuck someone, it's because not having it makes them dysphoric. There's a lot more to having a dick than "fucking girls", anyway.

On the topic of BnH, that omake was a bit unfortunate, with the stock "dude in a dress" joke approach...

So, the dream - I think it represents a few things. Ryou spent his whole life following in his sister's footsteps and emulating her, but suddenly they split onto separate paths and she entered... the world of a girl? Probably not quite that, but something along those lines. Up until that point he had no need to form an identity of his own, he could just go along with the sister he admired, since the two of them were similar and often confused for each other anyway. Then that changed, and he felt lonely and abandoned. You're going that way. In the first place, things like going out with Hachiya were his way of trying to assert that he was on his own path, even though he didn't know what his path was.

Interesting, I actually read that bit of the dream as a river of Styx-like metaphor; Yui is dead and has to take the right path, Ryou can't follow her any longer. She tells him to go left as a protective older sibling. Your interpretation makes sense too, though.

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So, in a way, she comforms to the image people have of her and begins to think that if she were a boy, she would be totally acknowledged. Eventually, when she reaches puberty and become more feminine and cuter, people start to acknowledge her as a girl and she realizes that she actually never felt or thought like a boy, she just wanted to be comfortable in her own body. So, she stops wanting to be a boy.

Yoshino was clearly dysphoric about pubertal changes. Some girls may wish to be boys when they're kids but few of them will go so far as to buy and wear a chest binder or literally proclaim "I want a dick". Especially considering Shimura's response on twitter to the question "Is Takatsuki trans?", like mentioned above, was basically "It's up to the reader", "they settled" is a much more apt way of describing her and to a lesser extent Shuu's development. I think Saori had a big impact on her psyche and one of the biggest reasons she got so indecisive and insecure around middle school.

if Marika goes to the all-boys school that would be so lame...

No kidding. "I can finally be myself and everyone accepts me, time to throw it all away again so I can go to the same school as my fucked-up romantic interest!" Author please.

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