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arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

Here's a specific one, but manga with that same sort of bullying relationship that's there at the start of "Notes From the Garden of Lilies" but that it stops having as it goes on. Some sexual tension, lots of teasing, popular girl and less popular, idk, I feel like I've seen a decent amount of like, "romantic bullying" stuff but none of it has tickled my fancy in quite the same way as that one started out. On one hand, I wish they'd kept that relationship, but on the other, I love the whole manga so much it's hard to imagine them not being exactly as they are.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

Rereading this again - god did I love it. I do kind of want to read (another, new) manga where that sort of dynamic they first had is actually explored. Cute bullying is... a weakness of mine. And like, there's a lot of it, but the specific dynamic they had, I haven't seen that explored elsewhere.

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

This.

That's it, thank you. I see you finding manga for people constantly on here, that's so nice of you! I hope you have a good new year, it's sweet that you help everyone so much.

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

Not to immediately ask again but it's bothering me that I can't think of any tags to search for it, that one about a popular girl and the girl who draws manga (not Tadokoro-san but pretty similar), and it's got that cover picture of the girl with the lily being stroked across her face from the side, and other than "schoolgirl" and "yuri" I don't have any tags to look for it with rn, so that'd make it... pretty impossible, considering the site. I'm so annoyed I can't remember the name.

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

Huh this is... pretty unrelated from the earlier series. Like, a bit, but idk, it was all kind of disconnected, a bit closer to a series of oneshots or a collection than a single manga. With a few of the oneshots being sequels.

arch99
Slow Start discussion 01 Jan 20:58
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Oh my god she's so stupid, just tell your friends already.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

ahem

aaaaaaa AAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA

last edited at Jan 1, 2020 8:54PM

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

That's the one. It was even stupider than I remember!

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

There was like a demon or devil or something, she wanted to make someone's wish come true to steal their soul or something, but she opened up the "forbidden book" of names and ended up finding a terminally ill girl who just wanted to have sex. So they have sex, then the girl pops up again in hell, having been made a devil. Something like that. It was cute. I have no idea if it was recent or a while ago, I read it around the period where I was reading back through all the manga on here tagged "yuri" that looked interesting back until 2015, so it could have been uploaded a few weeks ago or years ago.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

it's honestly impressive how much mileage they get from that boobs gag, it somehow doesn't feel old yet

I'm not sure it's really a gag, it's more the mechanism through which the whole manga is conducted. Which is clever, except that boobs are such a non clever topic, it removes the highbrow-ness of that concept. Which is pretty clever in itself, and also funny. Anyway, the reason it's not old is that there's so much self-awareness and irony in it that it helps, and also that if it was gonna be old, it'd be old on the first page.

tl;dr it's not old because it's a narrative device, because it's self-aware, and also because the only people still reading would be people who aren't put off by it.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

I hate how adorable I find this manga. God. Why are they so cute. Just fucking confess already you boob maniacs.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

She was in love with Claire and couldn't bear seeing her freezing to death in the mountains, shunned by her own people as a murderer.

That doesn't make people not suicidal, not at all. People hide it. She did her best to create a situation where she had to die. So maybe it was bad storycrafting, or maybe she wanted to die. I find the second more likely.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

@BugDevil I'm not sure why you can confidently say she didn't want to die, she literally planned and orchestrated a situation so that she'd have to. I think she was just suicidal, but couldn't let herself die because she didn't want Asha to be left alone, which is where Claire comes in. Like yeah, it was unfair and stupid, that's kind of how it works when people you love choose to die. Everyone is left behind reeling going "it could have been better, it didn't have to go this way." and blaming themselves.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

I really want to appreciate this one, because it's overall very well done, but... I can't get over the fact how utterly avoidable this tragedy was. There was literally NO reason for Asha's mom to die. Not a single one. She was a freaking DRAGON. All she needed to do was to grab her child and fly somewhere else. Why is dying the more appropiate response over just fleeing to another mountain range? Claire would have survived either way because the hunting party was already going her way. Not that the dragon even needed to expose herself. She could have just gone to them in human form and tell them that she found a survivor who needs help. Hell... she could have just gotten her out of the mountains herself and let her walk the remainder towards town. This crucial action had so many plot holes it is infuriating.

I'm sorry, I know it's just a plot device, but I can't stand unwarranted tragedies.

Oh I thought it was pretty clear she wanted to die. She orchestrated the situation such that she'd have to die, that she woman she loved would for sure be saved, and that her child would be taken care of. I definitely read it as her wanting to die, specifically at the hands of someone that loved her. Fucked up, but yeah,

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

I still think it should end up polyamorous but y'all know my inclinations. I think everything should.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

The moment I realized out I wasn't straight was the moment I realized I was a girl.

Big same tbh. I actually say that the reason I realized I was a girl was realizing I was a lesbian, I always identified way harder as a lesbian than anything else.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

Depressing. But hopeful. I feel it.

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

Okay this is a bit of a weird request but... any yuri manga with like, nice aftercare? I was reminded today that I'm a huge sucker for good aftercare scenes, makes me feel very nice, so I'm wondering if anyone has good manga that have nice aftercare scenes after some intense sex or BDSM. I'm guessing not, but hey, doesn't hurt to try. Like just cuddling or something would be nice, but proper BDSM with like, good, proper aftercare would make me very happy.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_dogs_desire_and_the_reality_of_discipline
This one is very sweet for having insane amounts of sex and bdsm tags
You probably have already read it though

I haven't, I generally don't read doujins of specific things because I'm always missing context to them. Thanks, I quite liked it! Very little aftercare, but the way they checked in through it was very cute.

arch99
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joined Nov 26, 2019

Okay this is a bit of a weird request but... any yuri manga with like, nice aftercare? I was reminded today that I'm a huge sucker for good aftercare scenes, makes me feel very nice, so I'm wondering if anyone has good manga that have nice aftercare scenes after some intense sex or BDSM. I'm guessing not, but hey, doesn't hurt to try. Like just cuddling or something would be nice, but proper BDSM with like, good, proper aftercare would make me very happy.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

Also, I fail to see the point of bringing up "Bloom Into You", that was explicitly a series about romance, it called it such since the beginning, and the whole point was that the main couple went beyond mere friends

Have you ever considered judging a work by what actually happens within the text of the work rather than whether or not a scanlator places an explicit label on it to tell you how you're supposed to feel about it

Hagino calls the story "girlship" and prefers not to label it a yuri work because, to her, the story is about the feelings that exist between our two lead girls, and she doesn't want to confine those feelings by putting specific labels or expectations on them. That's all she's said on the matter as far as I'm aware. Maybe that means they won't ever come out and kiss, maybe it means that they will but that they don't want to be simplified to just that, maybe it means any number of things. Mostly it means we should judge the text by what the text itself does rather than obsessively parsing the occasional author's tweet or bookstore genre label to tell us what we're supposed to think about the story.

It's gotten really tedious to see every thread on this story go back and forth in a frenzy of "BUT SHE SAID ITS NOT" instead of ever actually discussing the actual manga IMO

There's an interesting thing about labels like that. I'm sure we all here would agree that Ikenai Hito is unquestionably a yuri work - and yet its own afterword has the author wondering whether it really fits that label. So when the author here too refuses to define it as yuri, yet doesn't mind if people do so, they may similarly see the yuri label as something more restrictive than what she wants to cover in her manga.

I mean, there Tamamusi is wondering if it counts as yuri because it feels more mature in audience and story, which is not the same distinction here at all, since this is like, prime standard yuri territory, as a relatively low-stakes schoolgirl story about bonds between girls. That one was somewhat outside of standard genre conventions, hence the author's note.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

So, I've been re-reading this for a few days now, and am currently at ch37 page 6. In the mere 6 pages of that chapter that I've read, I have compared the relationship between the clubs as something along the lines of Roman politics in the late republic. I mean, think about it: the big clubs are the more powerful ones, they're basically the establishment; this would make the small clubs like commoners who feel mistreated. When it comes to stuco elections, they would back different candidates, who, based on their promises and opinions, could, if we continue the comparison with Roman politics, would basically make a (mostly) status quo faction and a "reformist" faction. Tatsumi wass basically just following the establishment, while Torayama was hoping to ride a populist wave to the presidential position. Now we all know how it ended, which is why the comparison with the late Roman Republic almost immediately starts collapsing due to unusability, but it struck me as interesting during this re-reading, and I just had to make a remark of that before the rest of the chapter (or even further, the rest of their arc) could distract me or make me forget or just make me consider such comparison falling on me as too embarrassing for me to share.

Are you suggesting Torayama was the Tribunus Plebis? Because holy shit that's such a take. I must admit my Roman history is shaky, it was a 9am class and I left it a little over halfway through the semester because it was all just dates and names, and I like the other parts of classical history than that, but I still remember that much. Anyway, damn, I'm here for that analysis.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

I haven't tried this thread before but hi people, I recognize some of you. What's going on in everyone's life?

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joined Nov 26, 2019

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

Yeah the heterophobia here is so evil and real! except their comment had nothing to do with that, no one mentioned heterosexual romance at all, and heterophobia doesn't exist. Calling heterophobia as real as 18th century racism, which killed hundreds of thousands of people, subjugated millions, caused a war, and so on, is so fucking shortsighted and assholic that I am left almost speechless. This feels like a blatant troll, and I'm honestly stunned that someone saying shit like this would have made over 500 comments without getting banned somehow.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

They're high schoolers that look like small children, pretty blatantly lolicon. Even if it's a single page it was jarring.

They really don't look like children to me, they look just stylized and meant to look "cute". Like, I really don't like loli stuff, especially stuff that's sexual, but this just didn't look or feel like that to me.

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joined Nov 26, 2019

This is like a romance with the language tweaked just enough that they have plausible deniability. Itd be one thing if this was produced 20 years ago...but why do they need to dance around the "LOVE" word now?

Isn't this the one where the author said they didn't consider it romance or something? So like, that's why, because the author is a bit of a coward.