Hanging out together =/= dating :/

If it's just normal hanging out, they've done that in ch 18. If you're asking why Yuu had never been the one to ask first, that's cuz she was insistent that their relationship was nothing more than senpai-kouhai, not close friends, not lovers, so there was no reason to hang out. Also, it ties into her chara trait in how she tends to just go along w/ others' plan, rather than doing anything out of her own volition.

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Does anyone else feel like the recent chapters are a little underwhelming? The story, to me, doesn't have nearly as much impact as it did in the opening chapters.

When this series started, I thought it was pretty similar to the way how each character was a metaphor for an attitude/philosophy toward life in Norweigian Wood (Haruki Murakami novel). But now Touko's character is starting to feel a little bit empty, like she's centered around the obsession with her sister and not much more than that.

I know that's how the author intended it to be, but I feel like Touko should have a bit more depth in her character. We never even see her display any real personality, all traces of her genuine emotions seem to be exclusive to Yuu, and it's kinda of hard to imagine her being free of her sister's shadow when her own personality has been eluding the world for so long. But again, teenagers are highly malleable so maybe that's the direction the series will take.

I think it's getting better though, since the problem of Touko's emptiness is getting addressed. Touko's emptiness & relationship problems are among the main conflicts in this series right now. From here on out, the story is about helping her finding herself so she can overcome self-loathing and come to open up to people and have actual meaningful relationships (not just with Yuu).

IMO, this story is more of a coming-of-age dealing with romance and relationships than a story about life at large though. Each character has some complicated emotional problem/process and the story just explores how they interact and grow, showing the healthy and unhealthy sides of everything.

Wait she messaged her now out after all the tike spent together?

O.o

Wow, this got even more slow pacing that I realized.

Are you asking if this is the first time they ever texted each other? Then no, you can see the history of their convo.

No i meant ask her to hang out.

Ah ok, thanks for clearing it up. They're technically not dating & Yuu was pretty stubborn about it so yeah. This page sums it up pretty well.

Wait she messaged her now out after all the tike spent together?

O.o

Wow, this got even more slow pacing that I realized.

Are you asking if this is the first time they ever texted each other? Then no, you can see the history of their convo.

Man if this went a suicide route I think there be riots of angry yuri fans...

How this entire chapter is set up makes me think that it most likely won't go down that route. The sequence after Touko left Sayaka involves Touko contemplating her life after the play & maybe even her life before in the past since the imagery involving the smell of incense first appears in chap 10 in the flashback of when Touko first decides to live her life as her sister. Maybe she was questioning her life more so than suicidal thoughts there & that explains why she was shaking her head & trying to snap herself out of it in the next panel. Then ofc, you get to her standing by the track, asking what will become of her life after the play. I think that page is a great depiction of possible suicial thoughts without spelling it out to us. However, the hopefulness of the last 3 pages is probably why I think this series is not heading down the suicide route, since Touko actually decided to rely on Yuu for emotional support, even if she was a bit hesitant at first. Yuu initiating brought genuine comfort and happiness to Touko, breaking away her dark thoughts and bringing a smile to her face. So yeah, if this chapter foreshadows anything about the ending of this series, it's not gonna be a depressing one.

Anyone else think the "where can I go?" while standing next to empty train tracks is symbolic?

There's also the "I smell incense" then looking into the faraway distance/blue sky. They both look like the kind of scene where someone is contemplating death. Tho I'm not sure whether these are foreshadowing or a reminder that Touko would be very prone to suicide if Yuu was not there for her in these situations.

Let's just say that LWA was a huge disappointment. Spring season was boring, so bring on Summer!

TL is out: http://www.mediafire.com/file/cucc1to70r1w0q6/%5B4s%5D_Yagate_Kimi_ni_Naru_-_23.zip

Just gonna comment on the last scene with the texting. There's something incredibly sweet about how genuinely happy Touko is after receiving Yuu's text first. We all had a discussion on whether Touko truly loves Yuu and I think we can see it here that there is some genuineness in her feelings. Touko's hesitation to text Yuu for comfort reflects that there's still a gap in the trust department due to her insecurity & vulnerability (whether she can rely on Yuu w/o her coming to hate her). Yuu texting first actually reassures Touko & gives her the confidence needed to send her own text. From this, I think maybe Yuu starting to initiate more in showing her love & care (in little acts like hand holding or sthg, not stuffs like kissing or confessing) will be key to fill up the little trust gap in Touko & help her slowly becoming more accepting of her feelings.

Yeah, I think the same as you.I got confused because I wasn't sure if Nakatani was referring only to volume 3 Yuu or if she was including volume 4 Yuu as well ( or if you want to call it other way, Yuu before falling in love and now that she is). In volume 3, it was clear Yuu started to feel something in chapter 13, but her feelings were very weak back then, so she could ignore them and wanted to keep the status quo with Touko. Same in chapter 14 and 15. I'm not sure if Nakatani meant exclusively Touko or if anyone else would have been okay with she said Yuu enjoys the feeling of being loved, but I guess she meant Touko only, due to that line of Yuu in chapter 10 "if she and I can't be together I don't want anyone to fall in love with me" which implied Yuu wanted to stay by her side, not just because she wants to keep enjoying the feeling of someone loving her, but because she grew to care about Touko as a person. So, while Nakatani is correct, I think the other reason Yuu wanted to keep the status quo was because she genuinely cared about Touko and didn't want to lose her.

Nakatani wasn't denying that Yuu's action is also driven by the fact that she cares for Touko. She probably knows most readers can already understand this since one of Yuu's character traits is that she tends to put others' interests before her own. I think Nakatani was just recognizing the fact that Yuu herself is like any other human beings and can have a bit of a selfish interest, too. IMO, being a good person doesn't mean you have to be self-sacrificing all the time.

Chapter 16 is the chapter Yuu started to fall hard and volume 4 was great in portraying her feelings. She went from being fine with the status quo to suffering about it and thinking Touko is unfair, but still choosing to remain silent because she doesn't want Touko to leave her. This was addressed in chapters 18 and 19. Personally, volume 4 is my favorite so far because it shows how much Yuu's feelings have grown and changed. The contrast between chapter 5 and 22 is awesome, in chapter 5 Yuu comforted Touko because she's kind and like she said anyone would have done the same in her place and she would have done the same for anyone too. She was mostly indifferent to the situation while in chapter 22 she comforted Touko because she really worries about her and wants to help her and not because Touko asked her to. The scene was way more intimate too. Yuu has found the "special feeling" she wanted.

That's how I interpret it, I don't know if you disagree with some point :0 btw you did a great job with that Touko :b

Your interpretation is on point, I don't really have much to add or take away. Vol 4 is the best in terms of writing & I love it lots, but I slighly prefer vol 3 for having the best art quality on top of good development :P & thanks!

The part where she says Yuu genuinely wanted to remain silent about her growing feelings because she enjoys to be told that someone loves her and wanted to keep that confused me a bit though. It just seems to me that it's a bit shallow and kind of contradicts what's been shown in the story , with Yuu looking down, frustrated and all of that because she can't express her feelings and thinks Touko is unfair, and I also don't get how Yuu can be unfair like Nakatani states, but I do know Yuu is a bit selfish like chapters 16 and 22 showed.

I don't see how it contradicts anything about Yuu. Her feelings grow throughout the story, how she feels about Touko in the beginning is not the same as she feels about her now. In chapter 13, she has definitely developed something for Touko, enough that she becomes conscious of what to say and how to act, but not enough for her to risk losing the "friends with benefits-ish" relationship with Touko. They both enters the relationship with their own self-interests in mind in the first place. Touko wants a love that won't be returned, Yuu wants someone to love her because she is lonely. But as Yuu's feeling grows stronger, she starts to get fed up with the status of their relationship. It's more growth rather than contradiction, really.

Edit: For Touko, since she's the only one without this meme made for her yet.

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So 4s translated the latest interview with Nakatani & her editor: https://pastebin.com/mv1p5Dja

Some interesting bits~

& raw: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5186718670

Yuu is definitely gonna be taking initiative from here on out. The nurse's role in the play is gonna get more prominent & the date is next chap.

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Ch 23's color page preview:

& here's vol 5's preview page at the end of vol 4:

TL I received on the texts: "Let me show you anywhere but here" & "To anywhere but here," respsectively.

THEIR DATE IS COMING UP GUYS.

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The art quality of this chap tho lol I guess Sabu is getting a bit busy lately.

I don't think it's necessary for Sayaka to say explicitly that she's gay since it's pretty obvious she is and has accepted that fact after she fell for Touko, like she explained to coffee lady. I do agree that sexuality is not the focus of the manga, but saying readers can identify the characters the way they want is a bit wrong because someone could say they see Yuu as asexual and that's obviously not the case. Thing is labels aren't very important here though.

I guess my comment wasn't very clear lol I never claim that Sayaka isn't a lesbian. Was just saying that the manga doesn't bother identifying her sexuality since it's not the focus of the story. & when I say readers can identify the characters however they want, I mean that there's nothing to stop them from identifying the characters. We're free to call Sayaka a lesbian, Maki an asexual, etc. but the manga isn't going to confirm any of those labels since that's not its focus. Seriously, unless we get a sex scene between Yuu & Touko, there will still be people out there claiming Yuu's asexual.

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with no interest in attaching any labels on them

I dunno, Sayaka seems pretty obviously gay.

The manga never calls her a lesbian either. My point is that the manga isn't really interested in exploring sexuality. Readers are free to identify the characters however they want, but at the end of the day, that's not really the focus of the story.

Right. So It's nothing new then. Nakatani choose the same road as many yuri mangakas before her. It's an old trope "I'm not gay but I love you" (like in yaoi). It's still a fetishization.

The trope has been done a lot in other yuri series b4 & the presentation here is a bit straightforward & doesn't exactly add anything new to it, so I can get why you'd be frustrated with it. However, it's not a trope that's completely out of place in this story since from the beginning, YagaKimi has always been presenting itself as a love story between individuals, with no interest in attaching any labels on them. Again, it could've handled better, but to each his own, I have no problem with it, but I can see why you're not too excited about it. Tho calling it a fetish just b/c it's a cliche trope is beyond me.

YagaKimi pretty much paints itself as a love story between two individuals who happen to be girls. The question of whether they are girls is not as important as the question of who they are as people. The story takes its time to flesh out its characters, both their bad & good sides, since this gives no doubt that when the characters fall in love, they're falling in love with the person, rather than any concept of that person (Yuu is the embodiment of this)

Btw, this reminds me, a future development I really want to see for Touko would be Maki somehow reveals to her the fact that he doesn't love or want to fall in love. How Touko reacts to this would be really telling of whether she has truly fallen for Yuu (& not the concept of a person who can't love her back) or not.

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I identify as the son in the second story

FAKEEEEEEE. This is so fake. Madoka would be dominating the the entire Homu Burger store from the get-go and not letting anyone else have a taste of them delicious burgers if this was the real deal. I demand a refund.

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This was gold. The art almost reminds me of Mochi's.

Yuu: "I can't fall in love with anyone, be it guys or girls" ---> Falls for a girl anyway
Touko: "I can't accept anyone's love, be it guys or girls" ---> Falls for a girl anyway
Sayaka: "GL is not normal" ---> Falls for a girl anyway x2
Teacher: "I like men, not women" ---> Falls for a girl anyway

"Remember kids, if you're a girl who thinks you can't love girls, you will inevitably fall for one." -Nakatani Nio

This is the message of the story all along.

I'm sorry for my shitpost

Not a bad special chapter. A bit of the green eyed monster there, definitely... (I'm thinking that the teacher might have dated the guy in high school?)

The guy as in Ichigaya? I don't think they went to school together since the teacher would've also known Touko's sister. But she probably had dated other guys before based on what her gf implies & I guess the cafe owner is her first gf & whom she chooses to be her partner in the end.

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Has the series been licensed outside Japan? The only current yuri licensed in Spain is Citrus, and I'm pretty reluctant to give support to this series, but I would definitely buy Bloom into you since is one of the few mangas I keep reading after discovering Manhwa...

It has only been licensed in North America, South Korea, & Taiwan, but no Spanish localization yet.

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I tend to not like the long panel compositions in webtoons, but this artist does it really well. The visual metaphors, the colors and how they transition down from one panel to another makes each page look unified. There is also a good sense of rhythm between the dialogues and the panels and how they interact with one another (pg 13h is so damn wonderful). The use of a neutral palette for much of the normal narrative then highlights emotional parts with the warm colors is brilliant. Definitely the most aesthetically pleasing yuri.