,,,This is so tender... I love it. Also falling asleep holding someone is A+, would recommend, she's got the right idea.

Oh fun looking forward to this new yuri!

What do you mean there's only thinly-veiled racism and weird monsters.

OH MY GOD IT GOT A SEQUEL. DOES THIS MEAN IT'S GONNA KEEP GOING? I WANT THESE STUPID LESBIANS TO GET TOGETHER AT SOME POINT.

"Polyamory end are a rare treat because it's something who can't be thrown like that to resolve a triangle with nobody hurt, might say it's even a cheap way to end a love triangle."

To quote a certain someone in a previous thread. Idk, for someone that talked down on polyamory as an ending to love triangles as much as you did...

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So far this other girl doesn't seem like much of a bitch tbh.

Literally the comment above you discusses the difference in connotation between "bitch" in English and Japanese.

Anyway, I just wanted to say
They have got it so bad for eachother that's adorable. I mean, I would too, god, cool biker lesbian can steal my entire heart.

I still think it should end up polyamorous but y'all know my inclinations. I think everything should.

Same!

When you're poly it's hard not to see that as a resolution to a lot of love triangles lol

Did you ever read Ephemeral Asterism off "I'll Send Her Home on the Last Train"? The ending isn't quite explicitly polyamorous but like, it's inches away from being there, and it resolves a love triangle. I'd never actually read it through before, always starting it then going "looks too angsty and it'd just make me sad" but... I read it yesterday and it was so perfect.

I did! And yeah, it feels like the author didn't quite think of poly as a valid conclusion even though it would've made perfect sense as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe it just comes off as a cop-out for some people? I've also seen people argue that all parties need to be into each other mutually, which isn't how it's worked out for me.

In my experience it's really easy to fall for someone when someone you love loves them. Just makes it a lot easier for me. So even if that's not where it starts, that is where it could end up. Also, I thought Ephemeral Asterism was less not quite polyamorous and more, the author doesn't have the words or concepts needed to describe polyamory and this is what they arrived at. Reminds me of early trans works in that way, it's close, but they're kind of missing the context around how something works, so this is just what they thought of. That's just an assumption though, perhaps with no basis in reality. Anyway, in my experience a lot of people that say they don't like polyamorous endings or that it's unrealistic just kinda don't like polyamorous people and are frequently dickish about it anyway, so I usually don't bother with them. Calling it a cop-out is kinda bullshit to me, to go against decades of established tradition in order to do something different is hardly the easy or cowardly way.

Edit: also (to the other person) saying that relationships with 2 people are more romantic than polyamorous relationships, when I could count the number of manga I've read that have actual polyamory on one hand, and the number with 2 people getting together is literally every other romance manga, is just kinda being a dick about polyamorous people. It's not less romantic or less loving to love multiple people. It just isn't. You can personally dislike it, but to call it less romantic is just bias.

That's a good point! Now I'm curious if there is Japanese specific language for poly stuff. I also feel like poly gets a bad rep because most people see it through with unicorn hunters and partners trying to switch to poly as means of cheating without cheating.

I also think that for a story like this one, it would kind of hard to set up in the sense that the cast is so young. I know that I had to grow up a whole lot before I could have the communication skills needed to make it work. And as we've seen, not communicating and hiding her emotions are Izumi's two most practiced skills lol

Oh I don't think actually this one has any chance of ending in polyamory, nor would be well-prepared for healthy polyamory. I was mostly making a tongue-in-cheek comment about how I respond to every love triangle on here. Then I was getting mad when all the random people started insulting polyamory instead of just stating preferences, like they keep doing, which happens all the time, everywhere, and makes me so fucking tired.

Edit: also (to the other person) saying that relationships with 2 people are more romantic than polyamorous relationships, when I could count the number of manga I've read that have actual polyamory on one hand, and the number with 2 people getting together is literally every other romance manga, is just kinda being a dick about polyamorous people. It's not less romantic or less loving to love multiple people. It just isn't. You can personally dislike it, but to call it less romantic is just bias.

I'm not stating that my opinion is fact. It's just how I personally perceive it for reasons that are also personal for me. It will just never not rub me the wrong way when I imagine the possibility that someone will end up hurt.

Literally the entirety of human interactions give a possibility to hurt someone. I've been hurt in every relationship I've been in, the polyamorous nature of them has had nothing to do with the hurt I've received. Yes, polyamory opens up new ways for people to be hurt in relationships. So do gay relationships, where homophobia and lack of societal acceptance start hurting people, but we'd laugh someone out of the room if they said they didn't like manga where the characters ended up gay because it makes them more likely to get hurt.

I still think it should end up polyamorous but y'all know my inclinations. I think everything should.

Same!

When you're poly it's hard not to see that as a resolution to a lot of love triangles lol

Did you ever read Ephemeral Asterism off "I'll Send Her Home on the Last Train"? The ending isn't quite explicitly polyamorous but like, it's inches away from being there, and it resolves a love triangle. I'd never actually read it through before, always starting it then going "looks too angsty and it'd just make me sad" but... I read it yesterday and it was so perfect.

I did! And yeah, it feels like the author didn't quite think of poly as a valid conclusion even though it would've made perfect sense as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe it just comes off as a cop-out for some people? I've also seen people argue that all parties need to be into each other mutually, which isn't how it's worked out for me.

In my experience it's really easy to fall for someone when someone you love loves them. Just makes it a lot easier for me. So even if that's not where it starts, that is where it could end up. Also, I thought Ephemeral Asterism was less not quite polyamorous and more, the author doesn't have the words or concepts needed to describe polyamory and this is what they arrived at. Reminds me of early trans works in that way, it's close, but they're kind of missing the context around how something works, so this is just what they thought of. That's just an assumption though, perhaps with no basis in reality. Anyway, in my experience a lot of people that say they don't like polyamorous endings or that it's unrealistic just kinda don't like polyamorous people and are frequently dickish about it anyway, so I usually don't bother with them. Calling it a cop-out is kinda bullshit to me, to go against decades of established tradition in order to do something different is hardly the easy or cowardly way.

Edit: also (to the other person) saying that relationships with 2 people are more romantic than polyamorous relationships, when I could count the number of manga I've read that have actual polyamory on one hand, and the number with 2 people getting together is literally every other romance manga, is just kinda being a dick about polyamorous people. It's not less romantic or less loving to love multiple people. It just isn't. You can personally dislike it, but to call it less romantic is just bias.

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I mean, Anima Yell also has 2 members of the team with blatant lesbian crushes, like, just shy of explicit. At one point one of them gets teased by old friends as still being a "yuri girl" while the target of her affections confuses it with lilies, rather than f/f. And the other one gets really happy when someone compares her to her love interest's wife. Like, it's not just the side character that's a gay girl, those are pretty explicitly crushes, though I wouldn't expect them to go too far beyond.

I enjoy Dattsun’s artstyle, perfect for smut because they draw such sexy expressions

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It's not a copy-paste, sometimes forums mess up and make a comment a few times when you only try to once, especially when your wifi is spotty.

Which is why you always check and make sure something like this doesn't happen, then delete any multiple posts. Also, it could be caused by people double-clicking the Create Post button. Double-clicking isn't a thing on the internet. Ever. Don't do it.

Why is it such a big deal tbh? it's like, the slightest, smallest mistake, it barely effects anyone. Like, it's mildly annoying and it'd be better if it didn't happen, but y'all are getting kinda steamed about it and/or assuming it's some nefarious plot to inflate the manga's popularity.

I enjoy Dattsun’s artstyle, perfect for smut because they draw such sexy expressions

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It's not a copy-paste, sometimes forums mess up and make a comment a few times when you only try to once, especially when your wifi is spotty.

I think YurixLily might enjoy Dattsun's artstyle. They might even say that it's perfect for smut, perhaps because they draw such sexy expressions. Just a guess though.

Kodama has a few other non-NTRs. There's Renai Manga, for example, which is quite nice and not anything to do with cheating. And a bunch of oneshots don't either, including most (all?) of the Afterglow Noise collection. It's really mostly Netsuzou Trap and a few other oneshots, as well as the overall more dark nature of her stories (when they're not mostly just about big boobs) that make people feel like everything is.

This and the sequel.

Wait that second one was a sequel the whole time? I've read both a few times separately, I had no idea at all they were connected omg. Thank you for showing me that!

Make this a series now please ;-;.

No, now fucking tell her. Then kiss her. Then make your new series yuri. Please

Wild to me that this is still one of the like, top 5 representations of polyamory I've seen in manga. In silly comedy smut.

Well I'm glad someone revisited it, I'd never seen it before and it's quite good. For once, I look at a love triangle and I don't want it to end in polyamory, imagine that.

What??? There's a literal kawaii shit???

The author's persona? It's seaweed, because the author's name is "Konbu" and a type of seaweed is "Kombu", I presume.

I still think it should end up polyamorous but y'all know my inclinations. I think everything should.

Same!

When you're poly it's hard not to see that as a resolution to a lot of love triangles lol

Did you ever read Ephemeral Asterism off "I'll Send Her Home on the Last Train"? The ending isn't quite explicitly polyamorous but like, it's inches away from being there, and it resolves a love triangle. I'd never actually read it through before, always starting it then going "looks too angsty and it'd just make me sad" but... I read it yesterday and it was so perfect.

Ah darn, I wish this wasn't a oneshot.

I mean... it does have a sequel in Avalon Bloom

Wait, what? Has it not been translated yet?

Avalon Bloom/Bitter has not yet been completely scanlated, from what I can see. It's the same anthology this work is part of, you can click on the link on the top of this work to find it. I don't know whether or not it's true that there's a sequel within it, but The Zärtlichkeit du Yuri just finished this chapter of it, so if there is it might still be a little bit. The chapters before then it appears were scanlated more than a year ago, so it might be that there's not high demand so they're only getting around to things slowly. This is all just whatever I could figure out but looking at the pages for the manga and the scanlation group on here and on baka-updates (first thing that came up looking for them in google), so I have no insider knowledge and can't give you more than that.

I also find that this one kinda just doesn't stand out to me. Yes, the mute girl one is a more generic schoolgirl yuri, but it does have a bit of a twist to it, and this one is just kinda... eh? I like it, I'll keep reading it, but it doesn't stand out in any impressive way. The mute girl one does at least a little stand out from the others of its ilk. Also, there were a few different discussions in the comments for mute girl, like on Japanese attitudes towards disability, which add a lot to # of comments.

I mean, cuddling thighs is close to that, and definitely a good time.

Has anyone else thought that the authors representation of herself looks like an exotic sex toy?

Just me?

She's seaweed right? Konbu > Kombu

Wait what the fuck how did I miss this the first and second and third times I read this collection. This is amazing, this is perfect, this is 100% exactly up my alley. This is so fucking good. It's at least very polyamory-adjacent, even if it's not quite polyamory (and honestly the way they were acting I'm not sure that's staying up for too long). What the fuuuuuck. This is the manga I've been looking for.