Yup, it's confirmed. Show is still pissed at the yuri community about Prism.

I don't blame him...

I believe this, too.

The yuri community? As far as I know it was some sperg from twitter that noticed it and made a fuss. Nothing to do with the 'yuri community'. It's himself and his publishers he should rightfully be pissed at.

The creator is lazy but inventive, IMO. I wonder if it's not the whole manga industry Shou is a little angry at. I also doubt he did the shameful mangas out of a devotion to the genre, it was almost certainly guaranteed income. My reaction was: the hentai manga were really bad and should be held against him, it makes you question where his head's really at. Tracing an ad and then altering it substantially? you've gotta be kidding me. that's intellectual property inhibiting creativity, if anything. I was on his side 100% and still am.

Also, what even?

Well that was anti-climactic. I don't think I'm even sad anymore.

Show confirmed for most massive troll ever.

I think I'm going to go and cry into my lunch now.

Don't like the "cool but awkwalk senpai x shy kouhai" stereotype to be honest.

Mirei
Cool

No. No, I don't think so. I do hope she continues to be an absolute dork though.

Funny enough some of the stronger recent yuri series do not. Yuru Yuri? Barely any. Sakura Trick? Neither. Yuri Bears? Haven't seen any big het doujin for them.

Kinmoza definitely does.

A series does not have to be fanservice-y to get a lot of faceless rape and fetish doujins, a lot of the series that get tons of yuri here have their share of that, believe it or not.

Problem actually is that for quite a while a lot of the new series that have strong subtext or actual yuri don't get many doujins, or at least nobody uploads if they even exist. So we basically rely on yuri doujin artist to do something...

I know, I read most of it as well. fite me But fluffy shows get some fluffy doujins too, most ecchi/adult shows don't, if at all. Doujinshi and fanart tend to get more extreme from canon rather than less. The nearest thing to VD I can think of is Queen's Blade, and I'd advise against checking it out on exh if you're of a delicate constitution. Then again, Senran has a few decent ones, so maybe we'll be lucky?

On another note, it's kinda sad I like the fanart way better than the official.

Can't wait for hentai doujins, eagerly awaiting to see a girl turn into a sword and fucking.
Shits gonna be amazing.

lbr, with something this fanservice-y all we're going to get is faceless rape and extreme fetish douijns. But Mirei and Mamori look really sweet on each other in most the promo material, so I'm hoping the girls get decent relationships with one another.

If only there were a seconds counter as well.

Tiroskan

There was a talk somewhere in the Forum about a recent development, something along the lines of applying for a joint... something... possibly connected with real-estate... But it was a local thing, if I remember correctly.

Tokyo's Shibuya ward is first in Japan to recognise same-sex marriage
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/31/tokyos-shibuya-ward-same-sex-marriage
It's part of what reignited my curiosity.

ETA: Ahaha, jinx.

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I've come across a significant number of people online who genuinely didn't know homosexuality existed and didn't realise they were gay for years because they didn't think it was even a possibility.

Point taken, but there is always the question of their age. If they originated in the bury-your-gays period, then yes, I can imagine them, even if they use the internet. I know people of older generations that can barely use the Word, let alone browse intensely through the net (or having the inclination to do so on a more regular basis). If they are adolescents in the second decade of the 21st century, and are, in all probability, bombarded with popular culture references, and those often do include either speculations, or outings, as to which celebrity could be, or is, gay or bi, than I find it to be somewhat improbable. Also, with many countries engaging in public debates, referendums, and legislative reforms concerning the question of gay rights, with even Japan having made some minor improvements (on a purely limited local level, if memory serves), I would find it even more unlikely that they would be, apparently, completely oblivious to the entire thing. That is just my opinion, though.

As far as I'm aware Japan is notoriously 'don't ask, don't tell', so children/adolescents may very well not see any examples of gay people with whom they may identify with enough to ever think they're gay. Plus, authors usually write from what they know and I presume the mangaka is at least ten years older than Yuma and Hotaru, so her personal experience of being gay (If she is. I'm always curious how many yuri authors are queer.) or awareness of homosexuality as a teenager would be at least ten years out of date.

Also, convenient drama, obvs.

I'm actually really interested in the state of the gay in Japan, but I've found it pretty difficult to find much about it online. I guess if I could read moon it would be easier.

And now, even after Hotaru openly declares that what they are doing is cheating, and pushes her hand down Yuma's pants one more time, she is still oblivious. True, she slapped Hotaru's hand away, but is still none the wiser as to what is actually going on. Not only that, but she actually comes across, at least to me, as if she does not even know that two girls could be a thing. I personally detest the phrase 'but we are both girls', as it implies that the person in question is ignorant of the fact that there are such things as same-sex relationships. True, as someone pointed out to me, the phrase could be meant as purely voicing one's insecurities, because of the social stigma involved. But the thing is, in this particular case, it really does leave me with an impression that Yuma genuinely has no idea that two girls could be involved romantically, or just purely sexually. 'Was it because all this stuff I've been doing with Hotaru really is "cheating"?' And. 'All those comments about how this is cheating... I definitively can't let Hotaru's remarks mess with my head. And we're both girls in the first place!' In other words, what this implies is that, basically, if Hotaru was a male, not only would her motives probably be clear from the start, but all of this would actually, yes, constitute cheating. I mean, it is one thing to question your own preferences ('I am not like that, am I?', for example), it is somewhat different to be completely oblivious to the fact that there is such a thing as same-sex relationships. There is dense, there is oblivious, and then there is the brain-impaired. Hotaru outright stating her fatigue with Yuma's obliviousness only leaves the latter confused even more. Her being unable to properly analyse her own feelings? Sure, I can go with that. Her being unable to properly analyse Hotaru's constant sexual advances? Well...

I've come across a significant number of people online who genuinely didn't know homosexuality existed and didn't realise they were gay for years because they didn't think it was even a possibility.

I'll be so happy if Shou pulls a Triangle Struggle ending and just goes balls-to-the-wall hentai.

Silly, Shou doesn't make porn about post-adolescent women.

That's easy. They got together, they have science babies. Female twins. Wincest.

Yeah, I'm kinda desperate now.

Dammit Shou!! You better give us a happy full yuri ending!! That or start working again on Prism.

Everybody wins! I can get behind this idea.

I'll be so happy if Shou pulls a Triangle Struggle ending and just goes balls-to-the-wall hentai.

Silly, Shou doesn't make porn about post-adolescent women.

Why are people reacting like this one reached the end with that chapter ? Oo

I'll wait to see how that end before striking it as "non-yuri". If anything, this chapter seems kinda like a set-up for a yuri ending (bf being properly offed and Ran seeming to finally realized she loves her senpai).

It does seem to be heading for a conclusion, though. The only major issues left are Keiko's mom and Ran's feelings, and to be honest the mom can be dealt with simply by Keiko making a clean break and moving on, same as her ex. This could easily be wrapped up in one volume.

I think it will be by this point. Show really does seem like he's just trying to tie up loose ends.

For a loli hentai mangaka, Shou's pretty good at inciting sadness in my heart

Loli hentai mangaka? Shou? Discards the thought as heresy, the ramblings of a madman

Curious and despite the gnawing sense of dread googles if such is true. Finds one such doujin...dies inside.

https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=7358

I wonder if after 40 chapters he's finally satisfied all his yuri urges and just wants to get back to drawing loli porn.

Also, I can't believe no one's explicitly called this out yet...THE PARALLEL OMG RAN

Dream

Reality

But this was a really nice catch. I hope he at least gives us a definite ending, whether they're together or apart. Preferably together, obviously.

Well yeah, it's easy for you to see it as neutral because, well, it doesn't really affect you.

Actually it affects me a lot. That is why I said I somewhat agree. I see how it can be used to offend but I myself never see or use it that way.

100% this. To me the term "trap" is, as you said in a comment before: "To me it means a boy who looks like a girl and likes to cross-dress because he enjoys people mistaking him for a girl". That is what "trap" means to me..I've never thought about it as anything bad.

Well that is just me.

I agree with that, for me it's just a boy who like to dress, look like and be treated like a girl, not someone who want to troll others.

And about Liz, I guess he really can hide his "mushroom", because don't looks like there's anything down there in this page...

He probably tucks.

So is there a reason this is still being tagged as yuri?

From what i saw, it rather looks like a descent into smut for the MC. From nails painted to multiple female sexual partners and age gap

Sounds perfect, personally.

The realism that makes Stretch so good makes his loli peculiarly unsettling.

It's like people that draw stuff like that are actual fucking human beings, crazy I know!

You're an idiot.

I looked up Shou's loli hentai and I found it very disturbing. Really, really not my cup of tea (it's basically rape of seemingly very young girls and het to boot). I stopped after a few pages, but what has been seen cannot be unseen... yuck.

What's disturbing is that the art is similar to Prism and Stretch and I just can't connect the two type of stories. It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

The realism that makes Stretch so good makes his loli peculiarly unsettling.

There's no such thing as Tamako Love Story.
But Euphonium is super freaking gay for real though!

Is it..? Like overly yuri, or just subtexty?

Heavily subtextual. There's a girl who seems to be head over heels for the MC and the MC is very interested and curious about the girl. Plus, it's based off a legit novel, not like a manga or LN, so the chance of it happening goes up.

It's not the focus, but its there and it definitely is emphasized.

A het LN, so I wouldn't get your hopes up until the end. But fingers crossed tho.

Oh I definitely think Nao was the better one at loving Aoi. It's just I didn't hate Chihiro enough to abandon the Chihiro x Aoi ship.

Does not compute. If you like the character clearly you'd want for them to be with the person who cares about them the most, wouldn't you? Chihiro's just selfish, playing with everyone's feelings for her own amusement and then throwing a tantrum when it doesn't work out in her favour.

What exactly was up with Shino at the end though. I think I'm going to have to read it all again.

If you have unresolved sexual desires in real life, you masturbate. Maybe Ran and Keiko do that, but I don't think Shou is going to show it to us.

I feel like Ran probably definitely does, she seems more hedonistic. Keiko weirdly I feel like even though she's apparently pretty sexual would feel uncomfortable getting off by herself.

But yo, what do I know. Only Shou would know for sure.

Hopefully Ireland by the end of the month.

Hopefully. Germany and Switzerland within the year.

I will cry and probably throw things if it doesn't pass.

So. Fingers crossed anyway.