Kitsune Inari posted:
is it even yuri? I see nothing but shoujo ai tho
Same thing. Yuri is the original and official term for all girlxgirl stuff. From what I recall, shoujo ai is just a term coined by the west to signify a lesbian relationship that focuses more on the platonic and "chaste" type of relationship while outright avoiding the explicit and steamy lesbian realtionships. If we were to go by western standards, then Strawberry Panic would probably be considered shoujo ai as most of the relationships there are sisterly and "chaste," with characters kissing and hugging each other but nothing more. That is, assuming I'm remembering Strawberry Panic correctly. Been years since I last watched the anime adaption.
Yeah, that's pretty much it: the Japanese term for the female equivalent to 少年愛 "shounen ai" would be ガールズラブ "girls love" (yeah, literally). Paradoxically, "*shoujo ai*" is the English term for "*girls love*". In Japan, 少女愛 "shoujo ai" is a specific subgenre of lolicon porn: straight sex between an adult man and an underage girl.
In addition, the Western preoccupation with separating what you call it by "purity" is because of a couple reasons. Chiefly, breaking "shoujo-ai" (sfw) and "yuri" (nsfw) has two different delineations:
- Separating sexual from non-sexual. This is done for a couple reasons in-and-of itself: Specializing between sapphic romance and sapphic sex. Firstly, breaking apart "pure, wholesome" girl-girl (S-Class) love and "dirty, immoral" girl-girl sex (lesbianism) because love is love and sex is sex. Secondly is an obvious reason, considering most societies have some sexual taboo that states preconditions for sexual activity and one of the biggest of them is privacy - behind closed doors. It's why
Exhibitionism
(while natural) is a fetish in its own right. Which is why NSFW
material is marked, banned, separated, or otherwise delineated on most websites.
- Non-overlapping feelings/interests. What this means is in Japan, and many others societies, non-het romance and sexuality are disconnected. Most societies assume that if you're into the other gender (
Het
) it includes both romantic and sexual feelings, but if you're into the same gender (Yuri
/Yaoi
) you're either into romance or sexuality - that is asexual homoromanticism or aromantic hyper-homosexuality. Generally, queer desire is seen as the latter category. This awful (and wrong) stereotype and belief still pervades most societies that have some queer awareness (note: "awareness" not "understanding"). This trope is so strongly represented that many right-wing political figures still preach that queer romance and sexuality shouldn't be accepted because to them it's just a super sexual fetish that goes outside of moral acceptability - regardless if focused on cis queer or trans queer (like TERFs and the like argue).
There's another difference I'd like to mention regarding this, Japan uses a bifurcated system. One symbol/genre indicates the general type of work and another symbol/rating indicates its lewdness/adult nature. So while Japan has Yuri
and separates them by rating system (G, PG-12, R-15, R-18), in similar way to western movies, the western shoujo-ai/yuri difference has integrated the rating system into the two terms. So what a Japanese person would indicate as G/PG-12 Yuri
, a westerner would call it shoujo-ai, while what Japan considers R-15/R-18, a westerner would consider to be yuri.