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Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Surprised no one has mentioned Hoshikawa Ginza District 4 yet.

Cannibal
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Well that was an easy decision. So god damn adorable, Yuzumori also looks a little annoyed after they split up.

last edited at Feb 22, 2017 4:44AM

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I kind of raise an eyebrow at the folks saying Bridesmaids now isn't a downer because hey, there's a follow-up in an otherwise unrelated series and the MC only had to suffer the heartache anyway, and then be alone for more than a decade. I dunno, I'd consider that still pretty crappy.

I assumed the twelve years wasted included the time as just friends before the wedding because even though she understood each other's feelings she refused to act on them. Also, how could she have been married for twelve years and not pop out a couple of kids? And if I'm wrong, oh well, I like my version more.

No, I think the bride says she was married for 12 years. I mean, she says it was a loveless marriage, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have kids.

"I married a man I didn't love, for the sake of my family... and ended up turning my back on the person who mattered to me the most... I was a fool. Twelve years, wasted... until I managed to muster up the courage to do as my heart truly desired. She was there for me then, and when it all came to an end... It's always been her by my side."

It's ambiguous enough for me unless it's just due to how it was translated. The 12 years could either mean the amount of time it took her to follow her heart, including the time when they were friends before the marriage, or the marriage itself. I just have a hard time believing that she was married for 12 years and didn't pop out a kid, loveless or not. She got married for the sake of her family, you think she would have had a kid a few years later for the sake of her family as well.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I kind of raise an eyebrow at the folks saying Bridesmaids now isn't a downer because hey, there's a follow-up in an otherwise unrelated series and the MC only had to suffer the heartache anyway, and then be alone for more than a decade. I dunno, I'd consider that still pretty crappy.

I assumed the twelve years wasted included the time as just friends before the wedding because even though she understood each other's feelings she refused to act on them. Also, how could she have been married for twelve years and not pop out a couple of kids? And if I'm wrong, oh well, I like my version more.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

On a side note, seven missed calls. Suji's about to be pissed.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Sports like lacrosse, basketball, baseball, etc... are somehow less predictable because only the final score actually matters, so during the game, you can have pretty much anything happening.

I'm not seeing how those are less predictable. Either the main team wins on their way to nationals or they lose and the season is over. Chances are they are going to win every game unless there is a loser's bracket they can climb out of. There might be problems with individual players but there will always be a net positive in results, if someone is bringing the team down then another player will bring them back up. If they are losing they WILL comeback, most likely the person who had the recent flashback will make the key play. If they are winning then they will struggling to keep the lead. The way Saki is structured isn't all that different, just like how Koyori has to play a match Saki will either end up struggling not to lose too many points or have to find some way to come back. When it comes time for Saki to sit down we have an idea on what is about to happen.

My point is that just like Saki you never really know how well individual players will do up to a point. Like with the current match, we don't know if MuneMune and the captain will win. After the flashback and the pep talk you expect them to win, but if they do that Agari has to lose for Koyori to play. And if Agari loses then she might never get that match with Kumami because she will look too weak. But if MuneMune and the captain lose then at least we don't get the cliche that a flashback/pep talk means a comeback victory. They are allowed two losses before anything can be said with certainty. And just like you said, it's possible for Agari and Koyori to not have to play in a match if the rest of the team runs the table. Which is probably what happens in every match we don't get to see.

I could be wrong about all this but that uncertainty feels fresh to me compared to something like Soccer or Basketball where the main team is guaranteed to win. And they will enjoy that win as a team, in SPPG they will enjoy the team win together but they might be more affected by their own round results than a normal team sport.

last edited at Feb 21, 2017 6:00AM

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I don't really see it as getting stale, at the end it's just ping pong. The fact that you really don't know who is going to win unless it's the very last match keeps it pretty refreshing, that's the second main reason I like Saki. You usually don't see that in most sports manga/anime. The individual characters can win or lose at any time which means that they have more opportunity to grow to be prepared for the next match. Hanabi losing in the last two games, despite getting a pep talk mid round, makes me more interested in her character and look forward to when she finally wins one.

Cannibal
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I'm looking for something that was on deviant art about two girls who met as little kids then started dating as adults piano is a pretty big part of it also am amnesia

Nevermind, got it
Melody of sorrow

for those who are curious: https://tapastic.com/episode/378266
its a sequel to Cross Heart.

Sweet, looks like its hiatus recently ended, too.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

The "politics" in question are about Rin having the hots for Yuu, he wouldn't have bitten her if he didn't, and the implications of the sexual pleasure when bitten.

Nowhere in the manga does it say that the urge/need/desire to bite someone is linked to attraction tho, neither is it implied anywhere.

it only says that pleasure if FELT when DOING the biting.

ppl just over-thinking this and cluelessly spit-balling.

There's a reason why I spoiler tagged my post.

last edited at Feb 18, 2017 7:46PM

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Another series cut unfortunately short. :-( How many chapters are there in total now?

54, so scanlations are only just over halfway through.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I thought we were talking about interpretations to discuss whether the yuri tag is warranted or not. If we're talking about politics then I'm gonna pass, that topic never ends well in online discussions.

Oh no, the yuri tag already won out since anyone who has read the raws knows for a fact that Yuu is as gay as they come. The "politics" in question are about Rin having the hots for Yuu, he wouldn't have bitten her if he didn't, and the implications of the sexual pleasure when bitten. Some want to take his character involvement more seriously while others are saying that he is just a catalyst for the plot who becomes a gag character after his job was done.

last edited at Feb 16, 2017 5:55PM

Cannibal
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Bad news for those who like this manga. Chapter 23 will be the last one.

Canceled or does it have an actual ending?

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

If I may throw in some formal logic to the discussion, the statement "the author's own interpretation is not the only correct one" (the core of the death of the author concept) is not logically equivalent to "all interpretations of a fictional work are equally valid".

Actually, it means exactly that. If the author doesn't have the authority to state an interpretation is wrong then who does? If the author themselves doesn't have the authority then no one does and therefore all interpretations are valid.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Yeah, no, still ain't that convincing.

shrug

The notion that the author's intent isn't privileged is one of the cornerstones of modern literary critical theory. This ain't just me, some guy on the Internet, making shit up.

I know you are not making it up, but that doesn't make it correct. "Death of the Author" is just a way for critics to pat themselves on the back and act like they know what they are talking about when they are told that they are wrong. It's stripping context away in order to achieve the meaning you want. It's fine to have different interpretations, but when the author says that it's wrong then it's wrong. Analysis and interpretation of a piece of work is not automatically valid, they are not immune to facts.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Yeah, no, still ain't that convincing. A wrong interpretation is just that, wrong. Over analyzing and trying to force a message that isn't there is not magically valid. You can have an opinion, but to say that your opinion is what the piece is trying to convey despite opposition from the author then you are no more less wrong. Creators have the power of "Word of God" and can say that your interpretation is wrong.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Some of the best yuri series have male characters in it, people really need to get over already. It's tagged yuri for a reason despite the uploaded chapters not showing anything concrete to base it on.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I don't. What happened?

It started with the yuri tag, because the scanlation team read ahead and saw it was yuri, but the first few chapters were a bit tame, so people were dogging to get the tag changed to subtext.

Now it's subtext but the chapters are starting to pick up and the same people complaining before are now wanting the tag changed back to yuri but we're now just mocking them: "they're just gal pals doing friend stuff as friends."

I've read Vol. 1-3 of Futaribeya and the yuri level is so low there that you can basically say it's your average CGDCT subtext manga with some fanservice here and there.

Except for the kissing and the declaration of being a couple and Yukiko tagging it as yuri on their Pixiv.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Ok, this is interesting, but there was a line that confused me. On page 20, he says that if you look at all of vampire history you won't find many cases of blood sucking, but basically everything else makes it seem super common, both between him sucking her blood and expecting her to suck other people's blood.

Probably just the case of Vampires being so rare and most being able to either subside their thirst with milk and salt water. Most vampires probably don't go hunting due to personal morals nor have a willing blood bank.

Cannibal
Anime season 10 Feb 08:08
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Still no officially confirmed on relationship

Nothing on screen but at least the creator gave the confirmation on NanoFate.

Another one to add to the list is Symphogay, more commonly known as Symphogear. Three seasons of gay girls that do everything but kiss on screen, and that includes actual love confessions.

And of course there is always Valkyrie Drive where the girls literally do everything but confess.

last edited at Feb 10, 2017 8:09AM

Cannibal
Asian yuri movies? 10 Feb 05:11
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Transit Girls

It's like an abridged version of Citrus, it's not a movie but it will only take about 2.5 hours to watch the whole thing.

I watched this today!

It's... Odd. There were parts I really liked, I liked the main girl a lot and how the show made it pretty obvious from the beginning she was in the closet.

But goddamn the kisses were soooo stiff and the taller actress just looked uncomfortable with it, it had all the sensuality of someone getting forced to kiss their weird-smelling grandma goodbye.

Also some of the use of music was downright criminally bad.

Now I'm feeling like I'm just ragging on it, but I really did like it overall!

Oh, no, I agree. The acting was pretty bad, the jealous girl was probably the best actress out of the whole thing. For me, the bath scene made up for the stiff kisses. And the music was mood breaking at some points. But I will take what I can get, it's pretty good as a whole, not everything has to be as good as The Handmaiden.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

From what I have read on danbooru and a few of the raws this is gonna be a good one. Can't wait for more.

Cannibal
Anime season 09 Feb 03:32
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Too bad I'll be in Japan and can't see it until after many weeks have passed! Nooooo!!

¿wot?

Cannibal
Asian yuri movies? 08 Feb 06:11
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

Transit Girls

It's like an abridged version of Citrus, it's not a movie but it will only take about 2.5 hours to watch the whole thing.

Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

yeah i definitely realize that there is a big problem with the anime community in general with supporting unhealthy romance like abuse, incest, and pedophilia, it's just that i usually just stay in my yuri corner and it's frustrating to see stories like that taint the LGBT community's public image. i definitely don't think that stories featuring gay people should all be bland happy picturesque fairytales so that the straights dont think we're sinners or whatever, but romanticizing abuse and incest and pedophilia is deplorable no matter what. ESPECIALLY since the LGBT community is so associated with pedophilia and """""converting""""" children.

Once again, they are not blood related. Two unrelated people not being able to be together just because their parents got together first is just insane to me. I can understand being displeased with how much actual incest or pedophilia is portrayed in yuri works but these two people aren't even related. Their familial bond is dictated only by a few legal documents. Equating pseudo-incest to actual incest and pedophilia is just off base.

Cannibal
Syrupy Love discussion 04 Feb 00:25
Yuzu2
joined Dec 12, 2016

I don't get everyone's confusion.

Tsubasa meets Misaki and they start doing the nasty regularly. Rumors start at school about Tsubasa being a prostitute. When she comes to school with a black eye Misaki can do nothing but wonder if the rumors are true so she asks Tsubasa. Tsubasa tells Misaki the rumors are true and leaves, she then goes to Jun's house. This is where a flashback happens.

Tsubasa lives in an abusive household. One day she meets Jun. Jun provides an avenue for Tsubasa to defy her father, they pretend to be prostitutes to rob men and then start having sex with each other. Turns out Jun is a real prostitute and seems to be grooming Tsubasa to pimp her out. Jun gets two customers to have their way with Tsubasa but changes her mind when she sees how much Tsubasa doesn't want it.