ForumNot yaoi discussion

A85
joined Aug 22, 2014

What the fuck does this tag actually mean anyway?

X
joined Feb 8, 2014

What the fuck does this tag actually mean anyway?

Haha, I was just wondering myself as I noticed it on a new release of Takemiya Jin.

Untitled-1
joined Aug 29, 2013

What the fuck does this tag actually mean anyway?

Baiting-yuri-thirsty-fan tag so that they can read the series with emotional preparation for some yaoi but dont expect the yaoi to happen at all. But then yaoi happened.

Dynasty_misc015
joined Nov 7, 2014

Gray Shadow posted:

What the fuck does this tag actually mean anyway?

Clearly it means that the tagged chapter/manga isn't yaoi? I thought it was kinda self-explanatory personally.

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

But manga that was tagged with it contained yaoi

1318
joined Jul 20, 2011

But manga that was tagged with it contained yaoi

Which one? So far, this is what we've got here:

  • The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.
  • A manga by GAN that has the exact same title as the KyoAni anime about teenage guys with a water fetish.
  • An Evangelion dj where Kaworu tries to do yaoi but fails. Hence, not quite yaoi.
  • Two Code Geass doujins where two gender-bent male characters do yuri porn. Thus, not exactly yaoi.
  • And an author whose style makes girls look like transvestites.

For a tag so seldomly used it is quite diverse, isn't it?

Untitled-1
joined Aug 29, 2013

The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

Dynasty doesn't recognize shoujo-ai (GL) as different from yuri therefore BL still be yaoi even though it doesn't have the porn.

12343
joined Jan 8, 2016

Ridiculous

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

Kitsune Inari posted:

  • The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

I'm pretty sure that is the logic Dynasty went with, but as ieeheh pointed out, it doesn't work that way.

Roomie
joined Mar 9, 2014

I personally took it as : yes, there is a yaoi short but the main story isn't yaoi

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

trafi posted:

I personally took it as : yes, there is a yaoi short but the main story isn't yaoi

I wasn't bothered by yaoi short as well. Just 2-3 pages after already great yuri and it was pretty funny. It also looked as if it was written as yuri, but with male characters instead. No sexual acts did help quite a bit too though. Bottom line. I don't get why people are so upset about it.

Tmp_bh7jrkjcyaakw52-1123006053
joined Apr 15, 2011

Kitsune Inari posted:

  • The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

I'm pretty sure that is the logic Dynasty went with, but as ieeheh pointed out, it doesn't work that way.

i am amazed that this one tag has produced so much chatter. i don't want to say it's got folks bent out of shape, but umm..... amazing.

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

ciega posted:

Kitsune Inari posted:

  • The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

I'm pretty sure that is the logic Dynasty went with, but as ieeheh pointed out, it doesn't work that way.

i am amazed that this one tag has produced so much chatter. i don't want to say it's got folks bent out of shape, but umm..... amazing.

To me it is just next example of unclear tagging practices by Dynasty. The meaning of tag isn't clear from its name and there is no description of it, hence people are confused what it exactly mean and when it should be used.

Untitled-1
joined Aug 29, 2013

I wasn't upset about this though. Just thought it wasn't as accurate as it should be. Maybe some yaoi or yaoi side couple would be a better tag lol

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Roomie
joined Mar 9, 2014

I don't get why people start thinking too much about joke tags. These tags are are here for fun, of course they won't be accurate. This isn't a reason to make another tag each time there is ambiguity...

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Dynasty_misc015
joined Nov 7, 2014

ieeheh posted:

The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

Dynasty doesn't recognize shoujo-ai (GL) as different from yuri therefore BL still be yaoi even though it doesn't have the porn.

It still wouldn't be yaoi though. It'd be more like yaoi crush or something or maybe subtext though it's a bit more blatant than subtext.

Roomfortwo
joined Feb 11, 2014

That's gonna be the next "404" topic all over again, right...? :/

1318
joined Jul 20, 2011

The Takemiya Jin one, which has a BL short story but it isn't porn, therefore it's not yaoi.

Dynasty doesn't recognize shoujo-ai (GL) as different from yuri therefore BL still be yaoi even though it doesn't have the porn.

Technically ガールズラブ Girls Love is a subset of 百合 Yuri, specifically girls love is "clean" (SFW) yuri; that is, yuri involving only romantic relationships, without explicitly sexual content (basically it’s the female equivalent for 少年愛 Shounen Ai). Whereas yuri is the superset of everything lesbian in general. I don't know of any term that acts as the gay equivalent of Yuri (i.e. everything gay in general) or as the lesbian equivalent of やおい Yaoi (i.e. lesbian porn)*.
In other words, the technical definitions of the words are not exactly the same as their tag use in Dynasty. Which is OK, I'm not complaining or anything.

And 少女愛 Shoujo Ai is a different beast entirely.

* I'm leaving the difference between Yaoi and Bara for another day.

A2bcf11834a1918b3f09b4219b2a099f_r
joined Aug 16, 2014

And your point is?

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

none posted:

And your point is?

Missing it.

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