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In that way, it's completely different from the reality of that sort of relationship, which is why it works so well in a fictional context. There's also no victim, no real abuse is being committed or perpetuated

So in your mind, you are liking to see in 2D, the same situation and same acts that in reality would be unfathomably sadistic and horrible ?

This is literally close to the very first thing ever said about fiction in the history of criticism--Plato thought it was a major problem that (for example) people laugh at drunkards on stage who they would find shameful and disgusting in real life.

Then Aristotle pointed out that working things out in the imagination is not the same as performing them in real life, and that people enjoying a play were not advocating killing their fathers, marrying their mothers, and then gouging their eyes in shame.

Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff in classical philosophers going at it and poking holes into each other (metaphorically... mostly)
While the "Catharsis Theory" (which Aristotle was apparently partial to) has been proven false repeatedly in regard to fiction (i.e. Releasing violent impulses in video games doesn't diminish your propensity for real life violence, as an example), that doesn't mean that the opposite is necessarily true. There's another important mechanism to consider.

The modern term would be "Stimulus Discrimination", which describes how the same basic stimulus will, based on context, elicit different reactions from people. SD, however, can be a learned ability and vary by person.

I recall a German case study where a "naïve" person who had never played a first person shooter game was subjected to a rather graphic (if by today's standard horribly outdated) scene from a rather violent and explicit FPS. (I think it was an early 2000s title, maybe even late '90s).
MRI imaging showed that the "naïve" participant's brain reacted to the game footage the same way as it reacted to scenes featuring real life violence. Thus the participant showed no stimulus discrimination.
They repeated the experiment with an ESports participant with thousands of hours spent in the game in question and others like it. He showed hardly any reaction to the game footage (same as when playing) but showed basically the same reaction to real life violent footage as the "naïve" participant. This participant thus demonstrated a high degree of stimulus discrimination.

Make of that what you will, I don't really want to suss it out much more right now :D

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joined Sep 26, 2021

Man, I don't even like loli stuff, but Itou's art is too good to pass up

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joined Feb 14, 2018

i don't understand, itou could make bank off of milf yuri the way the author draws them yet you choose the lolis ...why? i'm just genuinely curious

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joined Dec 10, 2014

i don't understand, itou could make bank off of milf yuri the way the author draws them yet you choose the lolis ...why? i'm just genuinely curious

because she likes loli

it aint that deep

joined Jan 31, 2020

Loli art is not my thing, but we can have a debate about about the appropriateness of the art around the ambiguity of age and the mental age of the characters etc etc., but this is just straight up pedophilia. Gross.

Call the cops then. Why would you even click this?

Because i click everything. I didn't say it was illegal, I said it was gross.

joined Jul 26, 2016

Thread does not disappoint, 10/10 entertainment.

joined Aug 30, 2019

Based Itou Hachi strikes again, triggering the snowflake twitter masses with fictional works as they seethe in completely illogical rage. I love it.

Never change Itou, never change. (Also, beautiful art as always.)

joined Aug 30, 2019

Thread does not disappoint, 10/10 entertainment.

Itou Hachi threads never disappoint!

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joined Apr 14, 2020


See ya in jail guys

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joined Aug 24, 2016

Praise Itou Hachi sensei ,,uwu,,

joined Apr 10, 2021

felt like I've just committed a crime....

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Fishbio posted:

Loli art is not my thing, but we can have a debate about about the appropriateness of the art around the ambiguity of age and the mental age of the characters etc etc., but this is just straight up pedophilia. Gross.

Call the cops then. Why would you even click this?

Because i click everything. I didn't say it was illegal, I said it was gross.

You're welcome to click whatever you want. Negative comments that could have been avoided by reading tags will not be tolerated. This is your one and only warning. Please consider reading the rules in the future. Thank you.

Yuukikonno08 posted:

Based Itou Hachi strikes again, triggering the snowflake twitter masses with fictional works as they seethe in completely illogical rage. I love it.

Never change Itou, never change. (Also, beautiful art as always.)

This post runs afoul of Rule 1 by insulting other users. This is not acceptable to me. Please consider reading the rules in the future. Thank you.

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joined Feb 16, 2021

For all of you wondering... If you live in the United States, reading this is not just questionable. In almost all US states it is straight up illegal, with a capital I. It can land you in prison, with huge fines, on a sexual predator list, etc. If you do not believe me, there are plenty of cases in recent years (during Covid especially) where the precedent (loli art = pedo) was settled. In short, be careful what you read Americans! Good luck

Itou Hachi--> making great art as usual.

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joined Mar 19, 2019

Itou Hachi Sensei please stop lewding your lolis !

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joined Jan 4, 2022

Not into loli but i read it anyways cuz of top tier art.
Also author needs jesus

joined Jul 8, 2019

Itou Hachi Sensei please stop lewding your lolis !

This. Master and Mel is masterful. This is... not.

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joined May 23, 2018

Very nice Itou stay based you absolute goddess

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joined Apr 23, 2019

I just realized about American and English laws. I'm beyond dumbfounded, these countries are batshit insane, and their people too. Dear everyone, look at how "obscenity" is defined in the Miller standard. It's defined by how the general public would react to these same images.
But I don't give a ßħ→ŧ what other think... I find elation in those depictions of loli yuri, it's the average's joe sexual relationships that DISGUST ME. The US and UK are now dictatorships no different from Saoudi Arabia, and people not fighting for freedom in those countries (that is, most people) can all go to hell.

Watching that kind of yuri, has become a political act.

Please dear admin don't remove that, I need some venting. I swear I won't insist... Unless I'm asked to.

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joined Jul 26, 2016

The US and UK are now dictatorships no different from Saoudi Arabia

That's not what "dictatorship" even means. JFC people need to learn some elementary political vocabulary, Hollywood clearly isn't providing enough.

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joined Aug 10, 2011

I just realized about American and English laws.

It's quite legal in the US nationally. There isn’t much that can be done about local obscenity laws other than a campaign of morally justified terrorist bombings. Those exist almost exclusively in fairly conservative places, sparing the more densely populated north and west, and are right now being used to classify any art which includes LGBT or BIPOC themes as "obscene child pornography" to remove them from schools and libraries. Saudi Arabia and the UK are not dictatorships, they are monarchies, where the US is run by the Bilderberg Group.

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There isn’t much that can be done about local obscenity laws other than a campaign of morally justified terrorist bombings.

Surely there must be a more efficient way to do things...

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joined Nov 6, 2021

On a side note it's funny how every Itou Hachi manga turns the comments into a philosophical and political discussion.

Awesome manga, this is one of Hachi's best work yet. Love the detail and intensity. Thanks for translation&upload.

joined Jan 14, 2020

Saudi Arabia and the UK are not dictatorships, they are monarchies,

For any practical purpose the UK is a representative democracy; the monarchy is only formal and makes no political decisions, while ultimate power is held by the equivalent of the US House of Representatives. Saudi Arabia, OTOH, is an actual working monarchy -- Wikipedia calls it 'absolute', even. Given the size of the royal family, it fills much of the bureaucracy as well as the guy in ultimate charge.

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joined Jun 25, 2019

Saudi Arabia and the UK are not dictatorships, they are monarchies,

For any practical purpose the UK is a representative democracy; the monarchy is only formal and makes no political decisions, while ultimate power is held by the equivalent of the US House of Representatives. Saudi Arabia, OTOH, is an actual working monarchy -- Wikipedia calls it 'absolute', even. Given the size of the royal family, it fills much of the bureaucracy as well as the guy in ultimate charge.

I don't think any of this is relevant to what the manga is about.

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