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pumpkinmonster
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joined Mar 26, 2020

explodes

BOOM!

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joined Dec 9, 2014

The title Chandelier immediately reminded me of Sia's song which talks about hanging herself from it.
So before reading this story, I thought it was possible it might be about suicide.
Rika didn't have to literally plan on hanging herself from it, but the word Chandelier could be used more metaphorically.

joined Jun 12, 2019

By hear beat so fast when I saw that train.. man this was good. And the ending is so :(

Lil-Dumpster-Rat
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joined Jul 27, 2019

Wait, are they both dead...or...???

No, Sachie's friend Rika died. Our MC Rika saved Sachie just before she jumped in front of a train, technically in exchange for saving her from her own suicidal thoughts a little while before that.

I know that, but the last sentence implies something other than MC Rika wanted to die but changed her mind later on. I just feel like it implies that this is the same Rika or something like that.

I don't see any implication that this was the same Rika. It's not some sort of supernatural story about the ghost of Rika appearing as a prostitute to safe Sachie's life. If it was Rika-the-Porn-Star's ghost, Rika-the-Prostitute wouldn't need to look up the Rika-the-Porn-Star's information on the internet to see if she really looked like her before rushing off to save Sachie's life, would she?

It is an outrageous coincidence that a girl who is 8 years younger than Rika-the-Porn-Star who happens to have a similar physical appearance and goes by the same name (at least at the club... we don't know for sure that Rika is her real name... I mean... would you use your real name if you were working as a hooker?) and, due to crappy life circumstances, is working as a prostitute to make ends meet. If you look at the extra it shows them going to Rika-the-Porn-Star's funeral and lists their ages:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/chandelier#25

What I meant by my statement is that I, for some reason, thought that her line "You need to see me tomorrow" made me think that everything we saw wasn't true and that she is indeed the same Rika as MC Rika. Especially her line "She looks just like me". It gave off that kind of vibe for me and that's what I was thinking. This leads me to question whether or not they truly are alive, the last picture also made me think of it more.

last edited at Apr 15, 2020 9:20AM

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joined Feb 17, 2019

Such feeling of depression hits home real hard for me. I was raped by a man when I was 13 or so, then fast forward to 2016 I was raped by a girl who then forced me to live together and have a relationship with.

We were living together for over 3 years in an abusive relationship where I had to pamper her emotional needs while I could not even express my own feeling, with her telling me I complained too much and that she had worse life than me. She was also overly possessive, not allowing me to meet my friends and always demanding to go out together all the times without giving me privacy.

By mid 2019, I was traveling alone to buy a pet rabbit food when she suddenly told me to not go home for a day. Out of curiosity, I quietly went home and found out that she two-timed me with a guy, and they slept together. I was shocked and left the town somewhere unknown for days.... then she contacted me, got mad at me because she had had enough of me, and demanded me to leave the house and pick up my belongings immediately.

It was (and still is) a rough moment as a girl with no bachelor degree in a third-world country full of religious dogmas. I was poor, could barely find a proper job, and had been living alone since 2015 after my family disowned me for being both gay and apostate. I thought when a renown local newspaper wanted to hire me, it was a turning point of my life.

But then I realized I was always alone. Like Sachie and Rika, I had no one else to tell my story with. No one to support me. I never felt safe, and all the depression I had to endure for years finally took a toll out of me when I got mild stroke on January, this year. My whole face was in pain, right hand was in non-stop tremor, and I could barely walk. And somehow, there is this disturbing ringing noise that only I could hear inside my ear, hurting my head every second with no sign of stopping to this day (and I found out it was called "Tinnitus)..

Honestly, I don't even know why I am still alive even after everything. Maybe I'm a coward who's afraid of death? I've been thinking of putting an end to everything all this time. No reason to stay alive for me. Sachie and Rika are lucky that they meet each other at their lowest point, but real life is nowhere near as hopeful as their story. Even then, I thought to myself that I was glad they didn't do what I have always wanted to do, and I hoped no one would have to endure what they and I have experienced...

Pee
joined Oct 1, 2014

suicidal lesbians :(

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The Golden Orchid
joined Jan 19, 2017

Rest of the story could have been total crap (though it wasn't) and the dedication would still have carried it all the way. l respect when people try to touch on real life topics in a genuine, heartfelt manner.

joined Aug 16, 2019

Such feeling of depression hits home real hard for me. I was raped by a man when I was 13 or so, then fast forward to 2016 I was raped by a girl who then forced me to live together and have a relationship with.

We were living together for over 3 years in an abusive relationship where I had to pamper her emotional needs while I could not even express my own feeling, with her telling me I complained too much and that she had worse life than me. She was also overly possessive, not allowing me to meet my friends and always demanding to go out together all the times without giving me privacy.

By mid 2019, I was traveling alone to buy a pet rabbit food when she suddenly told me to not go home for a day. Out of curiosity, I quietly went home and found out that she two-timed me with a guy, and they slept together. I was shocked and left the town somewhere unknown for days.... then she contacted me, got mad at me because she had had enough of me, and demanded me to leave the house and pick up my belongings immediately.

It was (and still is) a rough moment as a girl with no bachelor degree in a third-world country full of religious dogmas. I was poor, could barely find a proper job, and had been living alone since 2015 after my family disowned me for being both gay and apostate. I thought when a renown local newspaper wanted to hire me, it was a turning point of my life.

But then I realized I was always alone. Like Sachie and Rika, I had no one else to tell my story with. No one to support me. I never felt safe, and all the depression I had to endure for years finally took a toll out of me when I got mild stroke on January, this year. My whole face was in pain, right hand was in non-stop tremor, and I could barely walk. And somehow, there is this disturbing ringing noise that only I could hear inside my ear, hurting my head every second with no sign of stopping to this day (and I found out it was called "Tinnitus)..

Honestly, I don't even know why I am still alive even after everything. Maybe I'm a coward who's afraid of death? I've been thinking of putting an end to everything all this time. No reason to stay alive for me. Sachie and Rika are lucky that they meet each other at their lowest point, but real life is nowhere near as hopeful as their story. Even then, I thought to myself that I was glad they didn't do what I have always wanted to do, and I hoped no one would have to endure what they and I have experienced...

you went through so much but you are no coward in my opinion. you're still fighting! and keep on fighting!! There is still beauty to be found in this cursed world and i hope you find yours

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joined Apr 22, 2017

I did not expect something like this at all with the "gay for pay" tag...

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joined Dec 7, 2020

Such feeling of depression hits home real hard for me. I was raped by a man when I was 13 or so, then fast forward to 2016 I was raped by a girl who then forced me to live together and have a relationship with.

We were living together for over 3 years in an abusive relationship where I had to pamper her emotional needs while I could not even express my own feeling, with her telling me I complained too much and that she had worse life than me. She was also overly possessive, not allowing me to meet my friends and always demanding to go out together all the times without giving me privacy.

By mid 2019, I was traveling alone to buy a pet rabbit food when she suddenly told me to not go home for a day. Out of curiosity, I quietly went home and found out that she two-timed me with a guy, and they slept together. I was shocked and left the town somewhere unknown for days.... then she contacted me, got mad at me because she had had enough of me, and demanded me to leave the house and pick up my belongings immediately.

It was (and still is) a rough moment as a girl with no bachelor degree in a third-world country full of religious dogmas. I was poor, could barely find a proper job, and had been living alone since 2015 after my family disowned me for being both gay and apostate. I thought when a renown local newspaper wanted to hire me, it was a turning point of my life.

But then I realized I was always alone. Like Sachie and Rika, I had no one else to tell my story with. No one to support me. I never felt safe, and all the depression I had to endure for years finally took a toll out of me when I got mild stroke on January, this year. My whole face was in pain, right hand was in non-stop tremor, and I could barely walk. And somehow, there is this disturbing ringing noise that only I could hear inside my ear, hurting my head every second with no sign of stopping to this day (and I found out it was called "Tinnitus)..

Honestly, I don't even know why I am still alive even after everything. Maybe I'm a coward who's afraid of death? I've been thinking of putting an end to everything all this time. No reason to stay alive for me. Sachie and Rika are lucky that they meet each other at their lowest point, but real life is nowhere near as hopeful as their story. Even then, I thought to myself that I was glad they didn't do what I have always wanted to do, and I hoped no one would have to endure what they and I have experienced...

❤️

Sasasasasas
joined Dec 25, 2013

Jesus Christ. First I though short-haired girl was some kind of serial killer that was murdering people who looked like Rika (and of course Rika), and then came the train panel. It's funny because I thought for sure that was the last page and I was both horrified by the sudden twists and impressed with the manga for ending on such a depressing note.

The actual ending was pretty nice and I liked it, btw.

joined May 3, 2014

the plot lost me with the whole porn actress and the prostitute PLUS the seriousness of the suicide for the most weird reasons.

joined Jul 8, 2019

not today

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joined Oct 6, 2014

Wait, are they both dead...or...???

No, Sachie's friend Rika died. Our MC Rika saved Sachie just before she jumped in front of a train, technically in exchange for saving her from her own suicidal thoughts a little while before that.

I know that, but the last sentence implies something other than MC Rika wanted to die but changed her mind later on. I just feel like it implies that this is the same Rika or something like that.

I don't see any implication that this was the same Rika. It's not some sort of supernatural story about the ghost of Rika appearing as a prostitute to safe Sachie's life. If it was Rika-the-Porn-Star's ghost, Rika-the-Prostitute wouldn't need to look up the Rika-the-Porn-Star's information on the internet to see if she really looked like her before rushing off to save Sachie's life, would she?

It is an outrageous coincidence that a girl who is 8 years younger than Rika-the-Porn-Star who happens to have a similar physical appearance and goes by the same name (at least at the club... we don't know for sure that Rika is her real name... I mean... would you use your real name if you were working as a hooker?) and, due to crappy life circumstances, is working as a prostitute to make ends meet. If you look at the extra it shows them going to Rika-the-Porn-Star's funeral and lists their ages:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/chandelier#25

What I meant by my statement is that I, for some reason, thought that her line "You need to see me tomorrow" made me think that everything we saw wasn't true and that she is indeed the same Rika as MC Rika. Especially her line "She looks just like me". It gave off that kind of vibe for me and that's what I was thinking. This leads me to question whether or not they truly are alive, the last picture also made me think of it more.

How I understood that line was in relation to her earlier request for Sachie to return or see her again.

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