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Oh god.. xD

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joined Jul 19, 2018

I made an account just to comment here. Let me start by saying I'm not some uptight moral crusader and I have absolutely nothing against lolicon etc. that doesn't involve actual kids. There is however a serious problem with how this specific work has been titled, tagged and listed on this site.

This is not an original doujin by Itou Hachi. It's actually just a collection of random hentai images drawn by this mangaka that were briefly posted on their various social media accounts and then taken down. Somebody has since then cobbled the images together, labelled it as an original doujin and given it a title and the illusion that this might be an actual cannon chapter or side story from the Master and Me series which it is not. Master and Me is basically a non-explicit, cute little yuri age gap story not hentai.

I'm sure the majority of the people who clicked this title were expecting just that, some cute little installment from Master and Me and instead they get something very different and very misleading. I'm not saying it should be taken down, but somebody should first of all remove the doujin descriptor and add something like (Collection of Non-cannon Hentai Images) to the title.

As a self-published series of pictures posted by the author online of their own characters, it is a original doujinshi. And to make sure that the release is kept separate from the main series itself, it was not added as part of the series, but as you said, a original doujinshi.

With the words "OneeLoli Hentai" and "NSFW Lolicon" tags attached, I don't think there is anything more that could be done to make it clear that this is not a normal release in the series. If anyone clicked on this release expecting neither hentai nor nsfw lolicon, renaming it slightly won't help.

Other than the people screeching back and forth about pedophilia there are a lot of people on this thread voicing confusion about this being part of the canon etc. I think the reason so many people have miss-clicked this thinking it was an actual Master and Me story by Itou Hachi rather than a random assortment of hentai pictures is precisely because of how its titled.

I took one quick scan of the new releases, saw Master and Me and just clicked it. I think if you simply changed the order of the wording and titled it OneeLoli Hentai, Master and and Mel would probably seriously cut back the number of miss-clicks. Since Itou never intended for these photos to be cobbled together as a makeshift story and certainly did not title the work themselves you should be able to rename it whatever you like.

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Looking East posted:

I think the reason so many people have miss-clicked this thinking it was an actual Master and Me story by Itou Hachi rather than a random assortment of hentai pictures is precisely because of how its titled.

"Master and Mel OneeLoli Hentai"

I took one quick scan of the new releases, saw Master and Me and just clicked it. I think if you simply changed the order of the wording and titled it OneeLoli Hentai, Master and and Mel would probably seriously cut back the number of miss-clicks.

So, it is issue of order tittle, not the fact people can't bother to read the whole thing first. Yea, let's pander to people's laziness. Lets color all works people might not like red with trigger warnings images all around while we are at it in order to make sure they won't click on them by accident when they hastily browse site for new stories!

Since Itou never intended for these photos to be cobbled together as a makeshift story and certainly did not title the work themselves you should be able to rename it whatever you like.

Except they pretty clearly follow a progression and show a short story of them having sex. Itou might publish them on tweeter, but it doesn't mean they are not meant to be read together. And honestly if it was added as images, there would be no difference as staff would probably link them all together into story anyway.

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joined Aug 10, 2015

I think everyone here is a Morón the first ones for not understanding that ppl can separare reality from fiction and ppl that can't are gonna comite crime anyways regardless of reading lolicon hentai or not cuz they are sick motherfuckers no cuz they read a chinese manga about a dog loli
And the other ones for engaging in a pointless 8 page discution with ppl that couldn't care less about reason and only want to prove they have the moral high ground

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Was this done for an event or something? I was surprised to see this but i also noticed its seperate from the story...anyway...

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

Looking East posted:

I think the reason so many people have miss-clicked this thinking it was an actual Master and Me story by Itou Hachi rather than a random assortment of hentai pictures is precisely because of how its titled.

"Master and Mel OneeLoli Hentai"

I took one quick scan of the new releases, saw Master and Me and just clicked it. I think if you simply changed the order of the wording and titled it OneeLoli Hentai, Master and and Mel would probably seriously cut back the number of miss-clicks.

So, it is issue of order tittle, not the fact people can't bother to read the whole thing first. Yea, let's pander to people's laziness. Lets color all works people might not like red with trigger warnings images all around while we are at it in order to make sure they won't click on them by accident when they hastily browse site for new stories!

Since Itou never intended for these photos to be cobbled together as a makeshift story and certainly did not title the work themselves you should be able to rename it whatever you like.

Except they pretty clearly follow a progression and show a short story of them having sex. Itou might publish them on tweeter, but it doesn't mean they are not meant to be read together. And honestly if it was added as images, there would be no difference as staff would probably link them all together into story anyway.

Like I said I am far from the only one who miss-clicked this and there is absolutely no reason the title can't be changed since the original author never published this as a single work let alone gave it a title. So what possible reason is there to not change the title to make it less likely to cause people to erroneously click on it?

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joined May 4, 2013

I always enjoy my loli manga with a glass of wine at a fireplace, and a side of sjw tears.

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UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

benja is right, apart from discussing how this fits into the wider Master/Mel storyline, this entire thread is a monument to pointlessness. People who attack the work do so because either: A) they want to stroke their own egos by broadcasting how virtuous they are (which I suspect is why most of them are in it); or B) they actually expect the opposing side will at one point go like, "WHOA, this really is the same as real life paedophilia, fuck, you are correct, I feel so ashamed now" (in which case, I have some choice comments about their intellect). Cue the opposing side wasting 10 pages of the thread on lining arguments that the attackers are bound to dismiss completely because it never was about the arguments in the first place. But it must be said, these things always happen the same way, they are always started by the same side. No one amongst those of us who liked it went and posted crap like "yeah, real life paedophilia fucking rocks, everyone grab yourself a kid", no, instead this always starts when moral crusaders attack the work and (as happened here as well) those who read stuff like that, which inevitably causes the defending side to come out in force as well, and when the dust finally settles, no one has changed sides. Every. Bloody. Time.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Re: Retitling

Sometimes I click on things I think I might like and realize after a couple of pages that it’s the kind of thing I don’t like. So I click away.

Is there some compelling reason that solution would not work in this case?

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joined Aug 16, 2014

Re: Retitling

Sometimes I click on things I think I might like and realize after a couple of pages that it’s the kind of thing I don’t like. So I click away.

Is there some compelling reason that solution would not work in this case?

Some people aren't aware of the reader's sacred right to stop reading whenever they want, maybe?

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joined Dec 13, 2013

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she really lewded the furry girl..............

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joined Jul 19, 2018

Re: Retitling

Sometimes I click on things I think I might like and realize after a couple of pages that it’s the kind of thing I don’t like. So I click away.

Is there some compelling reason that solution would not work in this case?

Some people aren't aware of the reader's sacred right to stop reading whenever they want, maybe?

Some people also might not like having child pornography in their search engine profiles. Like I have said repeatedly there is no logical argument as to why the title cannot be changed to make it clearer and decrease the odds of a miss-click. It will take literally like 4 minutes of somebody's time to fix this. That is the only down side. The simple fact is a large number of people are miss-clicking on this thinking it is something that it is not. There is absolutely no real reason not to fix it with a simple title change.

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I vote that the word "hentai" be changed to "smut" in the title.

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joined Nov 10, 2013

He did it, the absolute madman.

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joined Jul 28, 2016

Some people also might not like having child pornography in their search engine profiles. Like I have said repeatedly there is no logical argument as to why the title cannot be changed to make it clearer and decrease the odds of a miss-click. It will take literally like 4 minutes of somebody's time to fix this. That is the only down side. The simple fact is a large number of people are miss-clicking on this thinking it is something that it is not. There is absolutely no real reason not to fix it with a simple title change.

If someone doesn't like having such things in their search engine profiles, then they shouldn't be on a site like this that hosts such content... surely, it'd still be pretty bad if it's prominently displayed on the main page and all. I mean, I admit that I certainly don't like having even yuri lolicon stuff in my history either (out of probably unfounded fear more than anything else though), but I love this site too much to ever give it up so I don't fuss over it too much. And, frankly, I think you're the only one who missed the "ONEELOLI HENTAI" in the title. It takes literally a second to read the whole title. Maybe you'd have more of an argument if the "hentai" thing wasn't in the title, but... it is. And, furthermore... it's pretty obvious this is not part of the actual series. I think anyone who actually reads the series should understand it's not...

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joined Jul 19, 2018

I vote that the word "hentai" be changed to "smut" in the title.

Even something as simple as reversing the order of the title and starting it with OneeLoli Hentai would likely greatly cut the number of miss-clicks caused by just rapidly scanning tittle.

Something like "Non-Canon OneeLoli Hentai, Master and Mel" would likely remove the vast majority of miss-clicks and misunderstandings and it will take somebody with the proper access no more than a few minutes to fix.

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

Some people also might not like having child pornography in their search engine profiles. Like I have said repeatedly there is no logical argument as to why the title cannot be changed to make it clearer and decrease the odds of a miss-click. It will take literally like 4 minutes of somebody's time to fix this. That is the only down side. The simple fact is a large number of people are miss-clicking on this thinking it is something that it is not. There is absolutely no real reason not to fix it with a simple title change.

If someone doesn't like having such things in their search engine profiles, then they shouldn't be on a site like this that hosts such content... surely, it'd still be pretty bad if it's prominently displayed on the main page and all. I mean, I admit that I certainly don't like having even yuri lolicon stuff in my history either (out of probably unfounded fear more than anything else though), but I love this site too much to ever give it up so I don't fuss over it too much. And, frankly, I think you're the only one who missed the "ONEELOLI HENTAI" in the title. It takes literally a second to read the whole title. Maybe you'd have more of an argument if the "hentai" thing wasn't in the title, but... it is. And, furthermore... it's pretty obvious this is not part of the actual series. I think anyone who actually reads the series should understand it's not...

Go back through this thread. Pretty much any of the posts that aren't bickering about pedophilia are people confused thinking this is part of the Master and Me series. There is absolutely no reason not to make the title more clear if it is leading to people clicking on it thinking it is something else. Hell, many of these people are still confused if it is canon or not even after reading the entire thing.

I can't believe people would argue against such a simple common sense suggestion and fix. You have multiple users miss-clicking on explicit child pornography that they are not interested in. This is reason enough to spend a couple of minutes needed to fix the title and make it something clearer. In literally a tiny fraction of the time people have spent wasting their breath arguing over it, this could have been fixed with absolutely no down side.

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Has anybody asked her if this is actually non-canon? Isn't it usually up to the creator? Can we tag Itou Hachi into this thread?

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Oh no

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Go back through this thread. Pretty much any of the posts that aren't bickering about pedophilia are people confused thinking this is part of the Master and Me series. There is absolutely no reason not to make the title more clear if it is leading to people clicking on it thinking it is something else. Hell, many of these people are still confused if it is canon or not even after reading the entire thing.

I can't believe people would argue against such a simple common sense suggestion and fix. You have multiple users miss-clicking on explicit child pornography that they are not interested in. This is reason enough to spend a couple of minutes needed to fix the title and make it something clearer. In literally a tiny fraction of the time people have spent wasting their breath arguing over it, this could have been fixed with absolutely no down side.

Maybe we could upload this outside of the official series's grouping and put a NSFW tag on it, on top of the "Hentai" in the title. No, wait...

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I vote that the word "hentai" be changed to "smut" in the title.

I'd say no. This is a site for Japanese doujins, much of which is porn. If a user doesn't know what basic terminology like hentai means, they should learn, fast.

A person that clicks on something tagged hentai, loli, nsfw, and are shocked at the content, is a schmuck.

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joined Jul 19, 2018

Has anybody asked her if this is actually non-canon? Isn't it usually up to the creator? Can we tag Itou Hachi into this thread?

What this is a series of unrelated hentai images collected from the author's social media posts which they later took down. Somebody then cobbled these images together, slapped a title on it, and then posted it here. It is in no way an official release and part of the Master and Me series.

This is what I am talking about right here. Some people even after reading it still can't tell if it is canon or not. It takes five minutes to fix the title and end the confusion.

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Looking East posted:

would likely greatly cut the number of miss-clicks caused by just rapidly scanning tittle.

Then, idk, maybe don't rapidly scan titles?

Also clearing your browser history is so easy I don't even get why you're complaining about "misclick"

Looking East posted:

You have multiple users miss-clicking on explicit child pornography that they are not interested in

In literally a tiny fraction of the time people have spent wasting their breath arguing over it

Maybe if people actually bother to read title and tags of work they are about to read then there wouldn't be even a need to complain about it in comments section and staff wouldn't need to spend their time fixing something that isn't a issue.

Only thing I can agree on is some information whatever it is canon or not would be pretty good. Then again I bet for Itou it is canon xP

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joined Jul 19, 2018

I vote that the word "hentai" be changed to "smut" in the title.

I'd say no. This is a site for Japanese doujins, much of which is porn. If a user doesn't know what basic terminology like hentai means, they should learn, fast.

A person that clicks on something tagged hentai, loli, nsfw, and are shocked at the content, they are a schmuck.

Yes, and anyone who would argue against a simple fix with no down sides is a moron. Now that we have finished calling each other imbeciles why don't we move on fix the problem?

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joined Apr 18, 2016

Yes, and anyone who would argue against a simple fix with no down sides is a moron. Now that we have finished calling each other imbeciles why don't we move on fix the problem?

The problem is yours to fix. Read the tags before you click on things on a site that hosts a significant amount of porn.

EDIT: It's tough clicking on something you didn't mean to click on, but use this as an opportunity to learn and grow and not let it happen again (or acquire a new fetish).

:)

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