I don't get this "you have to get married because mom says it".I guess it is other culture or just fiction to make a manga.

It's not uncommon in western culture either, to hear every woman during family gatherings to immediately go for "do you have a boyfriend? when are you getting married? I'm waiting for grandchildren" etc. It's getting less and less common with younger generations, but it still happens.

On top of that, people have various relations with their families, so words that mean nothing to you might hit really deep for someone else. Or even if you, intellectually, don't care, you may care emotionally. Eg. I don't particularly care about what my parents think about my life choices, but while going through therapy I noticed that a lot of my decisions are influenced by fulfilling the trust and support I was given while growing up.

And for most people in Japan, the pressure is probably 10x of what we feel in the west, due to being raised in a culture that puts much greater importance on fulfilling your role, being a meaningful member of society etc.

The clothes thing. A loose though.

In all her interactions with Yukako post-reunion, she seems to be wearing more masculine clothes (suits, shirts, pants). She rejected the skirt Yukako picked for her and now, after looking at her body in the mirror she is tossing all her feminine clothes. What Yukako said when they broke up seems to have left more long-lasting damage than was shown until now. It might be that she is rejecting her femininity to try to get her back - she wants to become her "man" because otherwise, they have no future. Or something along those lines.

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You're contradicting yourself.

Not really. Maybe I worded it poorly. His identity around being a provider is already set. That's why he accepts all the shit he has to deal with at work. Him coming home to his wife is the only thing that makes all the bs feel like it has a meaning. And suddenly she comes out digging into that. "So what is the point of me burning my soul out until now?" That's kinda how I see his reaction to it.

I can't really say someone who thinks you should be happy he even wants to fuck you, really cares that much about you.

Where did he say that? All we've seen is him throwing that remark about her not being all that hot, which kinda fits his character of being "crass but honest", although I think the author pushed it way too far there just to make him more unlikable. It made it unrealistic. He backed out immediately after she seemed affected by it. He's a bit of a dick, but nowhere close to "be happy I'm even fucking you" levels. From his perspective, his wife that pushes him to have children is just being a dead fish in bed. That hurts too. If Yukako acted close to what we see her do now for most of their marriage, it's actually surprising there isn't more build-up resentment there.

Och, so he has miserable life because he's socially pressured into doing things he doesn't really want to, but does it so people won't complain? A concept completely alien to Yukako, I'm sure. Not like entire society doesn't acknowledge her sexual identity or anything.

It's not a zero-sum game. Everyone can be miserable and Yukako feeling pressure doesn't change the fact that he has to deal with different kinds of pressures. Which is what the author may aim for, as it seems to be one of the main points brought up.

I wasn't intending on making a case for him being a "good guy". Just not a bad person or not really hatable.

edit: and, as brought up by Lilification, the whole marriage might just be his own societal trap and all the positive comments might just be him self-justifying his own position. He hates his job, but at least he has a wife to come home to. He has the family that he is sacrificing for. It's not meaningless. I'm glad I proposed etc. It would be similar to him asserting himself in other situations.

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I honestly can't see a husband as a complete asshole people seem to call him. He is an average guy living an average life. Chewed down by corporate machine and its pressures, yet not being able to do anything about it, because he have to provide for his stay-at-home wife. Said wife seems to be the only thing giving his life any color and he looks to actually care about her, even if he throws a crass comment here and there. He doesn't seem too keen on having children, but goes along with it, because his wife "wants it" on top of their parents also pushing for it. In that situation, he is probably a bit torn by her not getting pregnant. And now she also comes to him saying she wants to go back to work, undermining one of the pillars of his existence. Rather miserable life, but unless he does something later/we'll see some more of his transgressions from the past, I can't see him as a particularly bad person, or at fault for anything.

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There is something off about this scene. It's the setting present in virtually all fantasy yuri /w princess involved, yet this one felt particularly bad for some reason. Maybe because of the introduction of so many side-plots that weren't explained, like "underground training" and "assassin" - all out of the left field.

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This somehow became one of my favorite series I've read here. I really enjoyed the focus on not sweating over "standards" and everyone finding their own definition of love that works for them. There is no melodrama, no real focus on the relationship being between women either, it's mostly about finding and accepting yourself. Enjoyed the parts that spoke about relationships being built and worked on, rather than just happening. It's somewhat close to the innocence of high school mindset, yet also separated from it by some adult issues. Would love to see more of Takebe's girls getting scolded by big sis, but that wasn't the focus and the story didn't really have that many parts that went beyond the scope of the main plot and directly supporting it.

lol right? and she of course is just asking this out of the goodness of her heart, absolutely no ulterior motive ;)

I honestly think she just sees that Akari seems bothered. Which she is. What she doesn't know is that she is uncomfortable with Touko dating other girls than herself, not girls in general ;)

I still can't figure out what Touko's deal is, to be honest. I assumed she got dumped constantly because dealing with her is a handful, to say the least. But at the same time, all the exes seem to be really eager to come and see her. She also has a very air-heady kind of approach to kissing, flirting, etc. Can't put my finger on what her character is supposed to be.

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Unfortunately, it seems like with the established dynamic of barely meeting each other this will be, more or less, repeated until they finish the first year and move in together.

Maybe it's just my memory playing tricks on me, but it feels like it's usually Yamada who's on the receiving end of insecurities, so this time around Kase can have a ride.

What Asumi-chan needs to start doing is asking at least some questions. But I guess if she did, we would have already been done.

With that in mind, this series definitely requires a certain level of suspension of disbelief to be enjoyed. You more or less have to accept, that this world works on something close to hentai logic.

I still can't get the reversal of Ritsuka actually being the regretful one out of my head. I hope she will allow herself to move beyond that and progress the relationship soon.

I was gonna say that at least someone is calling her out directly on her bs, but briefly checked previous chapters and it doesn't really make it feel any better. Fuck her.

Somehow I've never even considered it as "attempted rape". For me, it was always the kind of bullying you sometimes see in manga when they try to strip someone, record it and put it on the web/send it to peers at school or something like that. Even considering it a rape attempt doesn't fit the setting, so there is no reason to go there. Those are not hardened criminals, nor is it hentai for something like this to be the default go-to.

That somehow felt unnecessarily cruel to Akashi. If you gonna disappear out of nowhere, disappear well enough so she can start moving on. And pointing out that she was/is in love with Suou at the very end was completely unnecessary, not really sure what that supposed to be for.

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Damn those onions, jumping out of nowhere.

Please tell me that Kagami's mother is not sabotaging their relationship because she is jealous and is actually planning for Indou to be the replacement for her mother. That would be a bit much.

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Akira seems to mostly fly blind at the moment because she feels inferior to Mayuki and Rin emotionally, and with Mayuki promising (in a different context), that she will figure it out, she leaves it to her in the hope, that her own problems will also get solved along the way by other people. Props to her for not giving in to the temptation of messing with others.

At the same time, we know the most about her, because Akira seems to be in the most difficult position because she knows the most - she's the only one who sees the whole scene. Everyone else just knows their own feelings (don't remember if Rin knows that Mayuki loves Akira, but she still doesn't know that Akira likes her). With that, she has to face the fact that her own love interest is focusing on someone else, while she is the target of said person. She also seems to be one, that would potentially harbor the most jealousy and possessiveness, but we don't know enough about Mayuki to say that yet.

Mayuki, only knowing her own situation, doesn't really have to face anything yet, because she has a singular focus - get to a specific high school, get with a specific girl. But that will also have to collide with what other people want sooner or later. For now, she seems to be fine, but what if she were to find out the whole situation?

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Well, that took an unexpectedly ntr'ish turn. Real "friend" move there Suwa.

It lacks the feel since prior character development was too shallow, but I think it still warrants the tag.

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Kind of a weird premise. I could understand it if Yuki was a target of bullying and Hana just stood in to scare of everyone else, but otherwise, it's just a few unnecessary hoops. I suppose it allows for more interaction than classic "staying away from each other, so no one will figure it out", but it still feels weird.

I actually thought that she was just going to get jealous but this is hopefully going to be a funnier route

Don't worry. Pretty sure jealousy will come later after they resolve the first wave of issues. If there is anything left from the new editor that is.

That looks more like a live triangle than a harem.

Ajisai is also (kinda) in the mix from late vol 1 of LN, but I don't think that it has harem/love triangle tones. It's more like MC is really, really traumatized by her middle school experience and has a very hard time denying people, which seems to lead to people both, taking advantage (that's what I'm guessing will happen in vol 2 /w Satsuki, looking at illustrations) and misunderstanding stuff (Ajisai - although that's even more of a guess, since vol 3 is not even out yet, so not even illustrations, just read that it will be focused on her).

Honestly, the whole dynamic IMO is a bit similar to the experience described in The Private Report on My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness - she barely learned how to walk, socially, and she is thrown into very advanced social dynamics involving all kinds of difficult people, that completely overheat her circuits. She also loves to put herself down and overthink stuff. Add gay panic on top of that and it's a total mess.

The vol 1 LN experience is like watching a trainwreck - it doesn't even feel good most of the time, yet it's somehow hard to avert your eyes. It's really hard to call it a romcom IMO - it's 70% drama/angst/assault/confusion, 20% more heartwarming stuff, and 10% comedy, if that.

Ow its the girl from the serialized version, she already appear the first time tadakoro work got rejected there.

Looks that way. It seems that in the serialized version author already had a better idea as to where he wants to take this "editor issue", so he makes it so it's not coming out of the left field. It's also shown that the previous editor treats Tadokoro poorly because she is an amateur, so he doesn't particularly care to keep her vs just being an ass, like in web version.

Considering the theme of isekai + "irregular magician" this would probably lend itself rather well to animation. Really pleasant read so far.

Finally... now please, for the love of god, don't turn it into another misunderstanding... The level of mental gymnastics to avoid defying their relationship in this one is so high, that without this push they would probably still consider themselves "friends" after 2 years in college of living and sleeping together... Considering the author's afterword I can only hope that the change in relationship is actually getting into one and not them avoiding each other because "it was so embarrassing".

At least if they fuck it up this time, I'm pretty sure senpai will jump out from around the corner and straight up explain their feelings to them.

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As a fairly big dude, it's kinda unfathomable to me that a human could weight 34kg. It must be super easy to move for small people. Really curious how it feels.

On a different note, does anyone knows what's the release schedule for the manga looks like?

The whole story was more or less about how an image of someone changes when you get to know them. From being afraid that she will lose her if she confesses, to letting her go and disappear from her heart, like an illusion it always was. From that perspective, I think it did an ok'ish job at what it aimed for but seems incomplete.

There seem to be a lot of shots of the white-haired girl looking kinda conflicted about the treatment Lyu Geyang is getting from the rest of the group, but she doesn't stand up to them. She carries her own bag in ch.1 and is not shown making fun of her in class or make her run errands, is always just shown in the background of bullying, sorta as a spectator. It feels like her wanting to get closer might have been genuine but was torpedoed by the rest of the clique. Instead of 3.5 being a snippet of the future I would rather see the author explore that part if all of the above was intentional.

If it wasn't intentional then the author should work on that, because it really feels like there is more to be told there.

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