Yeah

He really had good ears

And Kay isn't a lesbian. She's not anything. I think something is dead inside her, or non functioning. Death of other people has no meaning to her and I think if she had to, she would kill Dahlia without batting an eye.

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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Aya going for the sexual approach from the get-go is precisely because Marika wanted to do compensated dating from the start and she is so prejudiced that she would rather be molested than act lovey-dovey with Aya.

Consent is a thing that seems to be happily ignored here.

Anyway, I can sympathize with neither Aya or Marika. One is very weak willed and the other is predatory. I know that it will eventually work out, because it's the premise of this LN/manga, but from the start it strikes me as toxic.

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So a gay person can't be sexual nowadays because it comforts to stereotypes? We really did go full circle

There are tons of other manga out there that don't rely only on horniness toward the same sex to assert someone's orientation, like, for a recent example, "I favor the villainess". Here, it seems to be the only criteria.

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I don't even need to read the latest comments to know it's going to be a slugfest.

It's how a het person imagines lesbians/gay people to be: that what drives their whole life is sex.

The cute art is wasted on this series.

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Twincest is wincest.

Ah... getting Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou vibes.

Drama

You could just feel the tension mounting at the same pace as the pressure on the bladders.

Magical Girls on a budget.

maybe stuff like Happy Sugar Life and all, but yeah (if there are any more, please point me toward them!)

The Feelings We All Must Endure
Bokura No Hentai
Happy End (lol)

I meant that the brother punching his sister, the parents not giving a damn and the school not even in the picture, isn't addressed at all. [...] That violence has zero consequences, except making Nao realizes that there's something else in a family than blood ties and endless humiliation.

So, just like in real life, then?

You're still off about what I meant. I don't point it as unrealistic.

If the manga was about violence in the family, it would be fair to showcase the fact that sometimes, society fails children and there's no consequences. Happens in real life all the time, no arguing about it.

But here, the violence is just an enabler of their relationship. I think it's too powerful an enabler to just be dropped there and then forgotten. Violence has consequences, even if psychologically for the victim. It's not something that can be shrugged off just like that.

Here, it evaporates into thin air, like it never happened. The author makes it clear that this manga is not about that.

That's why I think using violence of that level (punching in the face), was too heavy a move and it distracts from the core of the story, which is, as the author stated, what is a family and friendship between these two girls.

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I think the physical violence in the end was unneeded and the author could have gone differently about it, because it leaves too many holes about how Japanese society works.

Ah so just like actual physical violence that's unneeded, and happens all the time within families in real life. Which I personally think this one-shot depicted realistically. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "leaves too many holes about how Japanese society works", but the physical violence is something that I'm glad the author is bringing attention to, because I don't think a lot of people realize just how common physical violence in families is. It's a very real problem that needs to be brought to attention more often.

I meant that the brother punching his sister, the parents not giving a damn and the school not even in the picture, isn't addressed at all. It's like the violence exists just to give a feel of how Nao's familiy is shitty compared to Hina's. That violence has zero consequences, except making Nao realizes that there's something else in a family than blood ties and endless humiliation.

So yeah, the author wanted to build their relationship by contrasting their family and they did a good job. It's really nice and emotional. But i think they went to an extreme that leaves too many questions not answered. The brother and the sister leave and go in Tokyo, the parents ignore her. The End. Move along.

Violence in a familial context exists, I would never deny that. The problem is that it distracts from the main point of the manga, because it's not the focus of this story and it's an elephant in the room the author dropped there and then proceeded to ignore. Like Nao is ignored by her parents.

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And then, they studied for exams.

And then, they had angry sex.

Thus manga really showcases how limited we are in terms of genre we have when it comes to yuri. Almost every yuri manga, especially in yuri hime, is just overly dramatic and filled with angst. I'm good with a few of them being like this but it just feels like almost every yuri manga is like this. I'm starting to feel like authors believe should should be nothing but drama and more drama.

There are a few out there, but stories without drama don't sell as much as stories with drama. Yuri Hime and such are commercial products. What do you expect?

It's like how in the news they never report that a train arrived on time.

Yamada to Kase-san is an example. There's very little drama (or quickly solved), but there's always a bit of it to keep the readers interested.

And it's not as if lots of gay people don't have issues in reality. Because we live in a society.

This is going to end really badly for someone. Scissors in the neck kind of bad.

In a nice boat way I'd say.

Put == at the start and the end of your message. But really, you should just asked how to it and make the message after rather than just asking and posting the message anyway.
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If you're quoting spoilers in full, you could apply your advice to yourself.

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The violence didn't really get addressed, because it was less about the dysfunctionnal Nomura family than about finding a definition of what a "real" family is.

It also built on the purely Japanese trope that the 3 years in High-school are a special time, where anything can happen and is the moment you can change your life.

I think the physical violence in the end was unneeded and the author could have gone differently about it, because it leaves too many holes about how Japanese society works.

But the ending was sweet, I'll give you that.

It's between girls. It doesn't count.

This is getting better and better.

Everyone gets messed up, it's like an unstoppable train wreck.

I love it.

Non Moe Art

Aaaand, now I've done it and I went to reread Girl Friends...

H A U S posted:

Aaand just as expected. sigh

You were the one who brought moderators into this so I'm not sure what you expected

Nya-chan seems to have in this forum huge powers that the rest of us have not.

You overestimate my influence.

I've just been a regular poster here for the past 6 years, as you can see from my postcount. I don't even know, or talk, with the site staff or moderators and I'm not the girlfriend of anyone of note.

I just rarely give reason to the staff or moderators to find fault in my posts, because I stick to the rules and I try to never get personal (happened once or twice though, because I easily get pissed off when I'm attacked ad-hominem).

If you disagree with my opinions, feel free to find counter arguments and we can have a civil conversation. If you just want people you disagree with, or you find dis-likable for whatever reason, to shut up, sorry, that won't happen with me.

Anyway, besides the choices of translation, this manga is pretty well drawn and the girls are cute, so it's okay, but the premise raises brows, because of the money involved and because it shoves the yuri in the face, like some unavoidable fate of that girl.

I hope the author gives a reason as to why the MC should be attracted to girls in the first place, because one doesn't become gay by reading yuri manga and watching lesbian porn, contrary to what some people would like to make you believe.

Looking East posted:

I like to think that yuri is mostly made for women to women, but this seems like for men to men

Yuri as a genre tends to have a bit of both, but I definitely agree with you that this one seems to be more geared towards males. As a general rule of thumb the more pornographic the work is the more likely this is to be the case. Also, somewhat surprisingly, a lot of so called "yuri bait" CGDCT series also fall into that category.

Yuri by women for women tends to have a heavier focus on interpersonal relationships and character building. There certainly can be sex scenes or cute girls doing cute things, but they aren't the sole focus of the manga.

Mira *cough*

Imagine twins body swapping...

*mindblown*