Why Yaoi tag? Non of the boys had hots for each other.

Yeaaaah straight dudes accidentally kissing really doesn't count.

Take the fucking money. Your principles are not worth that much

I guess that depends on how highly you value a person you care about not thinking you view your relationship as a monetary transaction.

I love how Mochi has all sorts of different character types in relationships. She's totally my favorite author now because of that. It's really refreshing versus just school girls all the time like most other authors. Of course a lot of them are sister pairings but still.

I have a question about the chart - I know Miyu wrote the dating site manga but did she really write everything else too?

Honestly at this point incest is small price to pay for some variety from the endless barrage of schoolgirls.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, I guess it depends if it drags out this miscommunication thing past the point of being funny to the point of just being tedious. Definitely a promising first chapter though.

Welp time for me to take a break from this series until this insufferably cliche arc wraps up.

I seriously hate this lame angst trope that all manga seemed to feel obligated to go through... I've seen it sooo many bloody times (in the more than a decade I've been reading manga), and it's never compelling- just frustrating!

Honestly, this is why "Kase-san" is so good, because it doesn't seem to have any obligation to adhere to hackneyed cliches that get in the way of interesting story telling. I almost have to wonder if the mangaka was being pressured by their editor to insert some kind of 'twist' into the plot? Ririha suddenly comes out of nowhere, with no clear motive, and is way more vindictive and cruel than any person her age should be capable of being.

One of the earlier commenters summed things up pretty well: The manga starts out with an extremely entertaining concept, then devolves into something that could be summed up on TVtropes.

As and addendum, after thinking about this... I think the what's going to irritate me the most is that once the period of perfunctory estrangement/longing ends, the story will 'resolve' things in such a way that the whole damned thing might as well never have happened... sigh. Which would be both a relief and a frustration, for reasons I frankly don't have the energy to get into at the moment.

Honestly, I might be better to blow this manga for about 6 months, then come back... once the whole ordeal has resolved itself and moved on. Right now, I'm still inclined to give Ejima more credit than the bastard making Citrus.

The worst thing about these kind of tropes is that they almost never serve a narrative purpose beyond just extending the length of the story. It's almost never used to advance the character arc of either of the characters involved it's just padding until they clear up the misunderstanding and then proceed to act like this extremely presumptuous disregard for the other person's right to self-determinate never happened and doesn't need to be meaningfully addressed.

These scientific guys should let her go already and give her independence. And help with maintenance whenever required, since it is their responsibility.

I know the author is trying to make them appear like decent people, but it's almost like slavery. She is just as intelligent as a human, so she should be granted that statue and not be treated like an experiment.

That would completely beat the purpose of Praha to begin with. Praha was built so that she would be as "human" as possible, in order for them to studying her. "Letting her go" would be an irresponsible thing to do from the investigative side of the story. They allow her to experience life as much as possible, but Praha's purpose is still research

I mean, think about this for a second: Praha very clearly is an extremely advanced robot and she's constantly being upgraded. Translate that into money and think if it would make sense for them to "let her go"

But from an ethical standpoint it's incredibly dubious especially when you start asking the question "Is a sapient AI a person or an object?" because to anyone who views her as a person there's little moral difference between Hiro's situation and a child being raised under laboratory conditions.

My favorite part is that even to the end, Hiro feels like a robot. Oftentimes these robot romances are way too human - we just have to take the author's word for her being a robot. But here, her "love" feels like a robot's love.

Yeah, I really appreciated that the author acknowledged that in all likelihood the way an AI would experience interpersonal attachments would differ greatly from a human and their version of "love" could be largely alien to how we define it.

Ugh I really hope this isn't gonna be one of those "I'm ditching you for your own good" situations because I can't stand them likely because I've been on the receiving end of that presumptuous horseshit.

So, uh, the plot revolves around a game that rates people and has you collect them like objects, using their feelings as stepping stones for getting further in the game. And it's got the added bonus of there being an alien race that sociopathically does this by treating our planet the same way the alien in Predator treats it, and seems to attach a monetary value or something to it. Since this is Tamamusi I'm going for the benefit of the doubt, but so far this has the framework of a cringe filled seasonal harem anime.

Hope I'm wrong. I really really hope I'm wrong. Tamamusi don't make my faith collapse.

Yeah this is a really uncomfortable premise for me especially since the protagonist is apparently just going to go along with it.

Aaaaaand rape. I don't even know why I got my hopes up it's yaoi of course someone is going to get raped.

Ririha trying to seduce Mimika and failing is pretty great. I wonder if this means Mimika isn't a lolicon tho since she doesn't seem to wanna lay her hands on Ririha or her friend.

I'd say that it's a pretty good indicator that her interest in Yuzumori is in spite of her age rather than because of it because her response to both of these other children is pretty much normal behaviour you'd expect from anyone.

I get the feeling there is going to be some drama latter on...

It's a manwha of course there is.

Jeez, good job killing the moment kid.

Wow, actual character development for the main pairing! It's been a while.

YO SERIOUSLY WHO WOULD SAY NO WHEN THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GO AMERICA. This happens a lot in manga but in real life you wouldn't give a shit about your school and friends if you can study in a foreign country

I kind of like having affordable access to health care and a not staggeringly corrupt federal government.

I think you've been missing Onoda's characterization since the beginning, if you're just picking up on it now.

Yeah like, she's insecure and feels isolated from her peers and to compensate for this she's very quick to judge them harshly based on shallow first impressions both too help her feel better about her own shortcomings and to convince herself that she doesn't WANT their companionship even though she very obviously desperately does. However, she's not usually stubborn about said judgements especially when her insecurity/loneliness is mollified and will promptly change her opinion when she gets to now someone even on a cursory level. This chapter is just a reaffirmation of her character as it has been developed since like the beach trip.

finally!! Stuff is getting serious and its not just teasing us anymore!! I thought we would never get a serious relationship out of this manga lol

Too bad one of the two serious relationships involves a melodramatic love/lust triangle :(

I thought there were three serious relationships

Oh right I forgot the BDSM Gays. And I suppose you could count the Maki Duo for a given definition of "serious."

finally!! Stuff is getting serious and its not just teasing us anymore!! I thought we would never get a serious relationship out of this manga lol

Too bad one of the two serious relationships involves a melodramatic love/lust triangle :(

Onoda definitely has a problem with making really harsh snap judgements of people but it's tempered by the fact that she usually revises them just as quickly rather than stubbornly sticking to them when they're proven wrong.

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"Plain" manager my ass... manager is a 8/10 while Yuria is a 9/10. I call that a close game people. Almost like Warriors vs Cavaliers...

It's kinda implied that Manager is kind of....slightly butch? I could see that being termed plain by a lot of people. Especially by men.

My question at that point becomes "why is the title written from a man's perspective?!"

You could also interpret it as a personality trait having a plain personality type meaning generally serious and not being crazy. And I would assume lesbians see other women thru the eyes of a man to a degree like gay men see a hot guy with the eyes of a woman(half my family is gay and it's very weird going to the beach with a reunion)

I've usually found that straight men and sapphic women have markedly different perspectives when it comes to what they find attractive in a woman.

The first rule of enjoying non-hard scifi time travel stories is don't think about the implications of time travel.

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Yet another het hentai artist poorly trying to make a yuri manga and believing for it to be yuri it needs tone of fanservice between the girls.

But fanservice is a good thing!

That's really a matter of personal taste and the nature of the fanservice. Like the fanservice here is the kind you normally see aimed at straight guys and to be entirely blunt it's kind of nauseating and dehumanizing to me.

Is like you said, a matter of personal taste so saying that a panty shot is only enjoyable for straight dudes would be yours and not the general rule... Because many girls would say "ooh that's sexy" except for of course (and yeah I will say it again) That train scene which is just dumb because no matter the culture, no one is naive enough to end in that situation twice furthermore that situation won't happen again the next day.

That's not what I said at all. What I said is that it is the style of fanservice you see in media aimed at straight men/boys because it IS. It's exactly the kind of thing you see almost exclusively in shounen/seinen ecchi manga. This kind of voyeuristic objectification of teenage girls just is not at all common in yuri that is marketed for women especially not in works that aren't already pornographic.

Yet another het hentai artist poorly trying to make a yuri manga and believing for it to be yuri it needs tone of fanservice between the girls.

But fanservice is a good thing!

That's really a matter of personal taste and the nature of the fanservice. Like the fanservice here is the kind you normally see aimed at straight guys and to be entirely blunt it's kind of nauseating and dehumanizing to me.

I really wish they would tone down the panty-shots I forgot how jarring it is to read straight dude fanservice.