"No dad in my place, I live with my mom. Yeah, just two women living together."
"Same here! Just me and my mom. That's the life I know: two women living together."
"Oh wow! We're like foreordained to yuri, aren't we?"

Ikemen Kyoko! She steals kisses from you under the pretense of removing crumbs from your face! She looks so serious and cool you just can't resist her!

But, in the American version, the strip of paper had this written on it in big characters:

---- DEFEAT ---- DISASTER ----

--------DESPAIR----DOOM--------

--------------------- Sorry, kid! -------------------

Am I a person of bad taste if I think this is really amusing?

Yes! You are! (⌒.－)＝★

It’s hard to “agree to disagree” with someone’s opinion when that opinion depends on:

• Ignoring or hand-waving away multiple examples of specific evidence from the text itself.

• Ignoring or dismissing what the text itself says about labels on relationships or about how people show affection for each other.

One of these days, when I have the time, I'm gonna compile a list of all the times one of them, Kasumi or Sakurako, said something that can only be explained in a context where they are lovers. Not chaste friends, or platonic girlfriends, or sister vestals: lovers. Like when Kasumi suggests she's ok with making out as long as it's not in public. Or Sakurako asks Kasumi to sit on her face. Or the many times Sakurako wonders if Kasumi will make her pregnant, and Kasumi tsukkomi-replies that it doesn't work like that. Oh, speaking of which:

Whee! They keep coming! :P

So maybe it's going in the direction of both editors having a say? It would feel weird to just now drop the "evil editor" altogether.

I feel the same way. If the old editor tries to sabotage the work of the new editor, Nikaidou would have an excuse to go against him without making trouble for the publishing company. The new editor would shield Tadokoro, so no problems on that side either. I think there's a chance it goes this way.

Indeed. The second approach is the traditional one in fan-translating, and originated as a reaction to the gross excesses of rewriting that happened in manga released by American publishers. SAD was at first one of the TL-teams who worked that way, sticking to the original texts almost word by word, but recently they have started taking some liberties to make the dialogues flow better and the reading experience more enjoyable. I see it as a proof of maturity... and the results so far (WGO, I Wouldn't Mind Being Loved) have certainly been impressive. In the end, imho, it all boils down to this: domestication/localisation in translation is something better left to the loving fans who really care about the original; they are the ones who can and will do it right. (Again, this is imho, and ymmv, m'kay?)

Haha, I remember when American publishers first started releasing ecchi manga in English.

In those olden times, they didn't translate the dialogue: they did a complete rewriting from scratch. Like, they took the pages with the Japanese text cleaned off, they got someone to provide them with an outline of the plot, and then they wrote something completely new, trying to make it as quirky and zany as possible.

I remember one issue (in the ST series, if I'm not mistaken) where a guy went to a shrine and prayed that his love life would become less complicated.

You see, he was banging a lot of nymphos, but he was tired of it: he wanted to have a normal romance with just one girl!

So, after praying, he got an omikuji at the fortune lottery, to find if his wish would come true. When he checked the strip of paper, there was (of course) the kanji for Big Bad Luck... meaning that his wish would not come true!

But, in the American version, the strip of paper had this written on it in big characters:

---- DEFEAT ---- DISASTER ----

--------DESPAIR----DOOM--------

--------------------- Sorry, kid! -------------------

This is what I call going too far with the localisation: sacrificing everything specific to the original for the sake of a joke. This is what fan translators rose up against when scanlation became a boom. But SAD's work has nothing to do with this sort of exaggeration; it's unfair to blast their work when it's a completely different can of cookies.

I also don't like it when they act like they have to say it out loud to make it real when they have been macking on each other for presumably more than two months now.

It's a Japanese cultural thing. It's reality in fiction, and it's extremely common.

I've watched doramas where a guy and a girl have been living together for years, they have sex every day, they are in everything like a married couple... and then one day, bam, big conflict: she asks him to say loud and clear that he likes her!

That's right, he had never said it before! But she wants to hear it! Now!! She demands it!!!!

To which he reacts with utter shock and bewilderment, and totally panics! And when he eventually calms himself, he stutters something along the lines of: "It's difficult for a man to say that kinda stuff. You gotta give me a few more years to mentally prepare myself!"

Japanese culture is a culture of reading the context and reading the atmosphere, where you regularly imply things rather than stating them in an explicit way — and trust the other party to get your meaning without further clarification. In manga and tv shows it often leads to hilarious situations when someone tries to do this "imply not state" thing to a kuuki yomenai character who can't get a clue even if it's driven into their skull with a hammer.

Shiine and Ichika have a lot of this in their relationship.

They first kissed as a sort of test, out of curiosity.

Then one said that they should keep kissing every time they had a chance, and the other said okay.

Then, after a long time of this, one suggested that they should become friends, and the other said okay.

Then, again after a long time, it looks like Shiine is finally ready to say the words: "I love you!" Good for her! It took long but it didn't take years, lol.

It this seems extravagant to you, keep in mind that it's been only 10 regular chapters. In "Sekai de Ichiban Oppai ga Suki" Chiaki needed 42 chapters to drop formal address and finally start calling Hana by her personal name. And even now she still keeps denying that Hana is her romantic partner...

These girls sure are flexible. I'm so jealous...
Btw, I'm pretty sure the black-haired one is not "Masako" but Misako.

Also, Kyoko and Yoko are looking into each other's eyes, and Kyoko is winking and emitting pink hearts. Very suspicious. I smell netorare.

Komichi has a knack for putting her foot in her mouth with every little thing she says.

A normal gf would have been scared away after ten minutes of that.

Luckily for Komichi, Mai is NOT a normal gf, lol.

It's like she was looking at walking garbage.

A strong feeling of disappointment can make your face like that, I guess.
Poor Hana.

No traigas drama de otros hilos del foro aquí. Sorry for bad spanish but maybe it's needed.

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I don't remember BugDevil as denying those two? The closest thing to that that I saw BugDevil do is deny your pet peeve that they already got laid off screen.

It's mildly amusing that you call the idea that these two are lovers "my pet peeve." There are many, many people who write in this forum who think that way — like Blastaar, Nene, Heavensrun or anim8tur, to name only some of the most active. If something is a fandumb pet peeve, it's your pal's idea that they are chaste. Or his universally mocked notion that Sakurako is an unearthly beauty — don't get me started on that one.

It's the same with Sakurako and Kasumi: they live together, sleep together, never showed any interest in boys, have already decided to buy a house together & live happily forever like a married couple... and we have seen them kissing and doing other sexy things too!

Oh, but they never adopted a kid, so perhaps in their case that's the missing part of the equation?

Whut? There are people denying Those two? Where? They are literally the least useless lesbians, period.

There were some guys like that in the Futaribeya thread. However, the most vocal of them got a permban (he went one bigoted commentary too far) and the others have been rather quiet since then.

^ Check Pandacorya's page if you suspect you may have missed some of her oneshots.

I'm actually disappointed that it's not Liberta.

This is exactly what I thought at first. But then Sakurako looks nothing like Liberta, so it wouldn't really make sense.

Not a vampire or a bloodshaper either. I honestly don't understand how anyone could be expecting that: it really wouldn't make a shred of sense.

Valkyrie!

(I feel like I have just seen the hero who will kill the Evil Editor... )

I hope you're right. In fact, I'm gonna be very annoyed if you aren't right.

She's cooler than Liberta

Now, now. Let's not get exuberant and go too far either.

"Let's kiss."
"Okay."
"Now let's shag."
"Okay."

With someone she had never even talked to before...

The problem is more on the side of blondie, who is like 'you a gyaru, so you do sex-y things with anyone, so do me too!' Kinda rude.

I mean she wasn’t wrong

and they avoided ban for years.

It sure took long... I often wondered about that...

What I learned in this chapter:

Of all the potential couples in this manga, Midori x Hibiki is by far the one that will have the most trouble becoming a thing.

Heck, even Mayuyu x Mariri has better yuri dynamics.

Warikitta 16 fue traducido al inglés. Aún esperamos la tradu española.

Qué complicadas las relaciones de estas chicas... el corazón de una mujer no es fácil de entender ni para una misma...

I... don't get the omurice joke.
Is she thinking Yuuki's belly is soft like an omurice?
Or wondering why her belly is so flat after eating a big omurice for lunch?

Yeaaah... okay. Blondie has the emotional growth level of a nine-year-old.

If Ravenhair plans to inspire romantic feelings in Blondie's heart, she has her work cut out for her.

Objective morale philosophies (Kant, utilitarism, etc) to my knowledge are all contentious and competing which as far as I'm concerned just shows that they aren't objective.

Ain't that the utter truth.

Kant was a real piece of work. His childhood was like Carrie's childhood, 'cept he didn't have it in him to rebel. He was scared shitless of touching people, never married, never had sex in his life, slept with his hands tied to the bed posts to prevent himself from masturbating...

He could have used some lessons from Tsuji-sensei for sure.

Two philosophers so completely opposite as Nietzsche and Schopenhauer both agreed that Kant's philosophy was just a fetid pile of thinly-disguised Christian fundamentalism. (Perhaps the only thing on which those two ever agreed...) Honestly, I think they had the right idea.

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Se le debían estar acabando los lugares de comida que visitar?

Chiaki avanzó bastante con Sakura en lo que va de la historia, es posible que les dediquen alguna forma de conclusión en lo que queda del manga.

^ Será como dices tú, pero en buen inglés eso se llama ser useless. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

Pero hoy me he sanado y casi lloro hahahaha vallan a leer el nuevo cap de Suito To en mangaplus por favor https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/2003740

Todo bien, pero... donde están los tijerazos???
Ya se han declarado mutuamente su amor, no saben lo que viene dsp?

(Jeje no me hagan caso, me encantan Momo y Yuzu aunque sean dos tontitas inocentes! c:)