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Hm. So you are telling me that you don't recommend this, right?

No, the recommendation is genuine. It isn't good, but it is fun and, if you like those kinds of kinks, hot.
And it does have a Mandarin option which might be okay so if you speak that it could be even better

I will not recommend a machine translation. Especially not one that asks for money. And even if we did recommend based on alternate language translations, you can't even verify the quality of the Mandarin release, right? (Just a guess, sorry if you actually do speak Mandarin)
If someone is desperate for... that content, then I am sure they will find it. Your comment is still here for them to find it too, so I hope that's enough. ^^;

I should clarify: it's a joke recommendation. The translation is very bad which makes the whole thing hilarious to read.

Also, as with most things, my recommendation goes for a pirated version. Hence why I mentioned the price tag in the first place. You should not buy it, but I definitely recommend you read it

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Personally I don't like it at all, but I know that a lot of people love it.
Give it a try.

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I feel like mono ending would've worked with like 20 more chapters

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If you ever wanted a full on fetish work that's 99% gay, there you go (it has like, a very tiny bit of other stuff like tentacles but mostly yuri). It has it all (spoilers for NSFW reasons): BDSM, rape, mindbreak—those three are literally just the basic premise of the story—pet play, exhibitionism, aphrodisiacs, and a bunch of other stuff
Also, its English translation, the one that's being sold on Steam for ~$13, is what I presume to be a non-edited machine translation which makes it completely unreadable

Hm. So you are telling me that you don't recommend this, right?

No, the recommendation is genuine. It isn't good, but it is fun and, if you like those kinds of kinks, hot.
And it does have a Mandarin option which might be okay so if you speak that it could be even better

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That scene isn't about Tara giving up. Like, it literally ends with Morgan saying that she'll get Maddie back and Tara responding "I know. If anyone can, it's you."
Also, that choice is not about "what should Tara do", it's "what should Morgan do." Each choice is made by Morgan and is a part of her growth as a character. Her allowing Tara to let out her feelings is important for her character growth more than anything else. Same with the two other choices.

I am sorry, either I'm misremebering that part of the story a lot or you mixed up the two outcomes. The point of Tara's breakdown was to accept that Maddie is most likely dead. She is literally grieving for her. Morgan is giving her emotional support to get through that. The other choice is the one where they don't accept that she is dead and Morgan encourages Tara to keep her chin up and go against her mother so they can get Maddie back.

I loaded a save to make sure I remembered it correctly so no mix up.

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This is pretty cute even though I did watch season 2

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Anyway, since that comment is off topic let me give you a "great" recommendation: Fallen Girl - Black Rose and the Fire of Desire

If you ever wanted a full on fetish work that's 99% gay, there you go (it has like, a very tiny bit of other stuff like tentacles but mostly yuri). It has it all (spoilers for NSFW reasons): BDSM, rape, mindbreak—those three are literally just the basic premise of the story—pet play, exhibitionism, aphrodisiacs, and a bunch of other stuff
Also, its English translation, the one that's being sold on Steam for ~$13, is what I presume to be a non-edited machine translation which makes it completely unreadable

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To be specific The idea that Tara should grief and accept Maddie's death is directly opposed to the theme of the story of not giving up and is directly contradicted by, well, Maddie obviously coming back. Tara's entire character revolves around the fact that she believes everything is possible and that she doesn't just give up even if it seems futile. That is one of the things that attracted Morgan to her in the first place. Letting your emotions go free is a good thing, but the fact that it is inherently tied to giving up on Maddie is not sensible to me.

That scene isn't about Tara giving up. Like, it literally ends with Morgan saying that she'll get Maddie back and Tara responding "I know. If anyone can, it's you."
Also, that choice is not about "what should Tara do", it's "what should Morgan do." Each choice is made by Morgan and is a part of her growth as a character. Her allowing Tara to let out her feelings is important for her character growth more than anything else. Same with the two other choices.

This is simply a matter of proper integration I believe. Choices dont really interrupt the plot much at all, they only take a few moments to make at most. You are basically saying that you prefer kinetic VNs or ones that want to tell a straightforward plot as I mentioned before. You don't care too much about player input, you just want a focused narrative. That is fine of course and there are many great examples of this style.

I mean, that's precisely what I'm saying. Badly implemented choices interrupt the story while well implemented ones flow with it. And the more choices you have the more likely it is that at least some are redundant and unneeded. Most VNs I've read have had way too many choices in comparison to the amount of plot beats.

And while I do prefer more kinetic stories I do also like the reader input, but redundant choices slow the story down. And that "few moments" is relative as well. Personally I have to: figure out what the choice is asking, figure out who or what the choices are referring to, in most cases I also save before making the choice, and write down which choice I go with so that I can figure out the other endings on later read throughs (also, if I save I need to write out which save file this path goes in also).
Usually a choice takes me at least 30 seconds to make which works really well in some cases but halts the whole story in others. Mostly the latter thing.

A choice system that gives you both choices with little consequences and big consequences mixed into the narrative can keep the player on their toes. It also can give you some variety in smaller scenes, which is good for replay value. For VNs with route systems many small choices can determine your route, which many people find appealing. It feels like the romance option really suits your personality, because you didn't just pick her, she actually resonates with your input.

This can still be implemented in the way I described as fun. For example, instead of scattering choices that influence dialogue in a single scene (e.g. "A looks better" vs "B looks better") you would have choices that influence the next scene (e.g. "I want to go with A" vs "I want to go with B", where the next scene is decided by which you choose).
This still has the romance option resonating with your input without having said input amount to very little in the actual story.
These small choices, to me at least, feel like they're just "need to get enough points to trigger a flag" instead of "I really like this person so I want compliment her", because the small choices don't really reward the reader with anything other than the knowledge that "this raises their points"

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Keeping the choices to a minimum is good for novels that just want to tell a staightforward plot. Personally I didn't like the choices that Heart of the Woods offered you, because they seemed arbitrary and to this day I genuinly don't think the ones needed for the good ending make sense. But due to them being so far and few inbetween it wasn't much effort to try out the combinations, so that is a plus.

Personally I love the choices there because, in my opinion, the true ending choices were the only ones that did make sense (for Morgan to make). Additionally, I love that Morgan is the only character who gets to make choices out of the four characters considering the story the VN has

And what I mean by "too many choices" isn't that choices themselves are bad but that most VNs I've read go overboard. Reader choice is great and all, but too much ends up devaluing the story.
Basically, I think that choices should only happen at important moments in the narrative instead of being scattered around. Scattering them around ends up interrupting the story while well placed choices work with the narrative.

Though my opinion might be a bit biased since I'm a slow reader. The so called "short" Oshirabu took me ~10 hours to read trough iirc and that is with me skipping through the stuff I've already read in order to get all the endings.
So even more choices means even more stuff to go through to get all the stuff which makes them very unpleasant. Especially the ones that have irrelevant choices scattered in with relevant ones.

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Personally I tend to prefer OELVNs though not by much. Mainly it's because Heart of the Woods is easily the best VN I've ever read.
I certainly think it has better production value than most Japanese VNs I've read and the story is just the perfect length. Also, it doesn't have too many choices which is definitely a problem that most VNs suffer from

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Please someone make this into a real movie

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Though speaking of Citrus, the manga isnt particularly ecchi, it has a Lot more Focus on angst and drama so its a bit wierd that it ended Up in that position

Sorry for late reply, but yeah thinking about it that's true. I guess it's more in how the series presents itself with enticing pictures of beautiful girls. On the other hand there is Bloom in to You which presents itself as a serious rom/drama series, but when you actually read it's full of pictures of cute girls kissing. I snicker a bit at how that ended up in such a position while Sakura Trick is viewed as low brow.

YagaKimi only has a total of 15 kisses (I just skimmed through it but I think I didn't miss any). Also, most of them are relevant to the main story in some way so they're a part of the rom/drama
1 in Volume 1; 1 in Volume 2; 5 in Volume 3; 2 in Volume 4; 0 in Volume 5, with one attempt that was rejected; 1 in Volume 6; 1 in Volume 7 (in the Miyako x Riko extra); 4 in Volume 8

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Reread this all in one day. It's still so sad that this got cancelled. It was so good!!!!!!!!!!

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How did the novels end anyway? Did anyone ever get together with him?

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I'm blushing like Nikaido trying to look at this

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It's ridiculous how much better these two fit so with each other than the main dude. It's to the point where, if I didn't know better, I'd think this series were a parody

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I feel like I’m reading “I favour the villainess” but with Claire’s POV. Very nice

"She's So Cheeky For a Commoner"

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Just science baby it. No problem

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You know a story has great characters when every new character that appears, every one, instantly makes the readers change their otp ship to mc x new character. ¯⧵_( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

It has already happened with Ena, with Izumi, with Serina, with Nao...

And that's where the true endgame comes in

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Why am I simultaneously reading a manga about lesbian brothels, and rooting for the main character to stop going to lesbian brothels and settle down with a nice girl?

my internal impulses don't make a lick of sense

We need a poll, how many of us are like u

https://linkto.run/p/P1RF2JDD I guess

I’d say the poll is missing an option. Asumi and Nao go to the brothels as a couple!

I mean, "no" does cover that bit also

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I do want Nao and Asumi to get together but that should in no way keep her away from the brothels! In fact, have her take her new gf with her a couple times! As a date!

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To those who know, 389533

Asumi-chan gets mommy'd. That's one more fantasy she gets to live out. I am so happy for her but also jealous lol.

high key want a translation, that was so cute

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$100 bucks on Hino asking Koguma if she's wearing panties under her yukata, or if she's being traditional about it.

No one's gonna take you up on that, it'd be a sure loss.
That's definitely going to happen :D

And then she'll check, just in case.

But what if: Koguma's answer is not done verbally

Knowing Koguma, there's no way of that happening, unless it's done by just furious blushing. Which still warrants checking to be sure whether she blushed over not wearing any or just the thought of it.

What I'm saying is that we get some character development

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$100 bucks on Hino asking Koguma if she's wearing panties under her yukata, or if she's being traditional about it.

No one's gonna take you up on that, it'd be a sure loss.
That's definitely going to happen :D

And then she'll check, just in case.

But what if: Koguma's answer is not done verbally

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I wanna watch the anime but the animation/art style hurts my eyes. Is the manga any good?