It is incredible and kind of hilarious how the "straight" girl can be in that much denial about her actual sexuality, yet it doesn't surprise me given societal pressures. Their dynamic is interesting and funny, can't wait for the next chapter!

Where? Russia? Pretty sure western countries are all for it

Only ever anime I gave 1/10 to. Never seen a more garbage anime in my life. This is the anime equivalent to the Visual Novel "Highway Blossoms". Both garbage and should never be touched by someone who likes yuri.

See, the thing is, people are talking about not wanting rape/sexual abuse being introduced as a plot device, but I would have wanted it much sooner. This manga already shredded any sympathy I would have had for the girl, and I actually don't care what happens to her past this point. I've simply lost any investment I had in this, and I'm not falling for the sunk cost fallacy.

What did you do to become so woke?

I read a lot of stories that I didn't like to the end thinking I might change my mind. And in the end, I felt just as dissatisfied as I did while reading them.
I'm not going to say the story is terrible, or that the characters are universally unlikable, or anything subjective like that, but I will say that this chapter convinced me that I don't want to read any further.

You... I like you. Keeping subjectivity away from an argument is the most intelligent thing to do. You have my seal of "Intelligence/WokeAsFuck".

Well, I'd like to wish good luck to any brave souls continuing on this journey. As for me... this is where I get off.

Wait one more chapter fellow friend. That is where all the issues will be brought to light and we can drop it together if needed

See, the thing is, people are talking about not wanting rape/sexual abuse being introduced as a plot device, but I would have wanted it much sooner. This manga already shredded any sympathy I would have had for the girl, and I actually don't care what happens to her past this point. I've simply lost any investment I had in this, and I'm not falling for the sunk cost fallacy.

What did you do to become so woke?

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Well, I'd like to wish good luck to any brave souls continuing on this journey. As for me... this is where I get off.

Wait one more chapter fellow friend. That is where all the issues will be brought to light and we can drop it together if needed

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/this_girl_will_make_me_a_woman
Sequel to this.

And daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. This was so good in its own way. I usually dislike cheating and NTR, but the fact that she liked Haru-senpai and that was the misconception all along, to her actually liking Towada-san.... that is so fucking good.
I don't know who I should root for. Can we get the polyamory ending please?

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Wow, did I hate this ending. I’m an inveterate Kdrama fan, and this was a textbook horrible Noble Idiocy copout finale. (Noble Idiocy—one partner giving up the other “for their own good”—can actually be a viable plot trope, but it has to be done very, very thoughtfully.) The manhwa was pretty decent most of the way through—lots of familiar tropes, but that’s no crime in genre fiction—but this ending was almost a parody of Kdrama Noble Idiocy Done Wrong. (I realize that the author isn’t Korean, but that’s where I know the trope from.) I’ll stop ranting, but this pattern of ending: [sudden Noble Idiocy > time skip > character reunion > little or no depiction of what happens next] has become so common in Lezhin yuri stories (WDTFS, Love Doctor, Serenade, The Third Party) that I begin to suspect it’s as much editorial policy as it is authorial failure. Again, sorry for ranting, but I needed it.

I think the ending should be interpreted as "They got back together". It is a cop-out though. Why can they never fight for their love. Why is it always the "give up to then later get back together". I mean, I get that it is more realistic this way, but yuri is not supposed to be realistic.

I'm getting shitty vibes from this. If it turns out she was fucked by the cousin, I am dropping this faster than Disney drops content creators. Her saying "Did he take your virginity" definitely does not help the chances of her not being sexually abused by her cousin, as I doubt one would say it like that unless they no longer are virgins themselves. The only thing worse than Het is Het-rape. Miss me with that shit. I don't get why rape drama even exists in manga. I mean, if you are going to introduce rape to your manga, at least do it from the beginning. There is nothing worse than getting emotionally invested into a manga, to then get completely stabbed in the kokoro. This is What Does The Fox Say all over again, where over 60 chapters in, they turn the manhwa into complete and utter shit with the whole cheating aspect. Thots are everywhere these days.

NTR 100
One sided 100
No reversal 100
Speech 100

Still cute though

I hope this won't go the predictable way, just like any other manga with a similar plot. One girl really wants to have sex with another girl, but when the time comes, the other girl will top the first girl, stopping her from giving back. It really seems to me like that is what is going to happen, but I can always hope for something more original. Like both of them giving and taking, which is really rare these days tbh XD.

I think it will be predictable, Komaki already showed that she is a pretty dominant person, if a romantic relationship develop between this two Komaki well totally treat Shun like a pet.

How boring

http://mangahasu.se/yuri-g44.html
This is a great website for people who want to read Manhwa and Manhua. They also have many series that Dynasty has yet to post

Nevri, I believe we have encountered one of those rare people with the ineffable quality of never being wrong. It’s sort of like charisma, except it only works on themselves.

Moving on, I think Touma-kun is, if not “beautiful” by the current conventions of yuri manga, quite interesting looking in an ambiguously-gendered sort of way—very much the sort of look that (in terms of yuri tropes) would be attractive in an all-girls school.

The difference between facts and opinion is that, no matter what your opinion is, a fact is still a fact. You are basing your argument on mob mentality. Just because more people believe something, doesn't mean it is true. People didn't believe Copernicus and Isaac Newton, but what they said was and still is true. Arguing with "Ugh, this person just doesn't understand our opinion" does not make your statement any more true or false. It just makes you look as if you have no counter-argument.

SomethingOrOther posted:

SomethingOrOther posted:

Looking at it from an objective standpoint, seducers are mostly to always great looking.

You clearly don't understand how charisma and seduction work. If you were so good looking women go to bed with you without issue, you wouldn't need to seduce them in the first place.

Also "looking from an objective standpoint". Lol. And where is your prove majority of seducers are good looking?

Do you even know what seducing means? So you are telling me that seducers are ugly with great charisma? Oh do you have it all wrong.Look at Casanova, the most renowned seducer in the world. In his times, his looks were most sought after. Look at Ted Bundy, a serial killer with lack of emotions, mischievous, and also great looking.

I never said all seducers are ugly. You're the one saying they all have to be certain way. It's nice that you at least can name some examples, though 2 is nowhere near "majority". Also yes. I do. It is the act of tempting someone to do something (usually sex). Nowhere it says you are supposed to tempt only with your good looks. In fact, I bet both examples you stated had also charming personality (or at least knew how to talk to girls) as well as good looks. The point is you can seduce people without looking like top model from fashion magazine, but it definitely make it easier. Also I love how you assume all women are so shallow they will go to bed with anyone as long as they are good looking. Sure some will, but even the best looking man in the world need to have something else going for him if he wants all ladies to flock to him. That is where charisma comes into play.

Name one well known seducer who is ugly, I'm waiting. And don't you dare name Uganda's ugliest man. He may have had 3 wives and has 8 children, but that is because he is famous for something and also has a heart of gold. At least that is what his 3rd wife says. Just because you are the ugliest man, doesn't mean there won't be people who find you attractive. All I am saying is, that people who get it on a lot are good looking. If you look at famous people with great looks, they have had up to 77 known partners.

Man, you are so hypocritical. So he doesn't count because he is famous, but other famous people who happened to be good looking do? Also the part about heart of gold is basically what charisma and seduction is in a nutshell. You get people interested into you by other values than your look. It's sad to hear someone honestly believe women don't care about people being smart, interesting, funny etc. and only want to fuck pretty people regardless of their personality.

Honestly, I wrote much more than you deserved, because you are condescending af in your posts and act as if what you say is some ultimate truth everyone should agree with, while making pretty hasty generalizations on top of that. I don't expect to convince you, since you clearly think you already figured everything out and nobody can prove you wrong, so I'm not going to bother with you more than that.

EDIT/ I did a quick google search:
"Many of Bundy's young female victims regarded him as handsome and charismatic, which were traits that he exploited to win their trust."
He strove to be the ideal escort in the first act— witty, charming, confidential, helpful—before moving into the bedroom in the third act.

I wish I could put pictures here so I could show you this http://memes.ucoz.com/news/my_point_you/2016-09-18-3273
I never said they didn´t have charisma. Where did you get that from? All i am saying is, that charisma by itself will never make you into a seducer. The Ugandan dude is also not a seducer. Having a wife is different from having sex with many people each day. Imagine him at a club trying to get chicks. That would not end so well. He might even get thrown out. I gave two examples just so you could get the point (which you clearly didn't). I could name hundreds whilst you can't even name one from the top of your head. Yes, you didn't say that "all" seducers are ugly, but you said "If you were so good looking women go to bed with you without issue, you wouldn't need to seduce them in the first place." and you also disagree with the statement that the majority of seducers are good looking. An unknown dude or woman who is fucking hideous could mostly never seduce someone, no matter how charismatic.

SomethingOrOther posted:

Looking at it from an objective standpoint, seducers are mostly to always great looking.

You clearly don't understand how charisma and seduction work. If you were so good looking women go to bed with you without issue, you wouldn't need to seduce them in the first place.

Also "looking from an objective standpoint". Lol. And where is your prove majority of seducers are good looking?

Do you even know what seducing means? So you are telling me that seducers are ugly with great charisma? Oh do you have it all wrong.Look at Casanova, the most renowned seducer in the world. In his times, his looks were most sought after. Look at Ted Bundy, a serial killer with lack of emotions, mischievous, and also great looking. Name one well known seducer who is ugly, I'm waiting. And don't you dare name Uganda's ugliest man. He may have had 3 wives and has 8 children, but that is because he is famous for something and also has a heart of gold. At least that is what his 3rd wife says. Just because you are the ugliest man, doesn't mean there won't be people who find you attractive. All I am saying is, that people who get it on a lot are good looking. If you look at famous people with great looks, they have had up to 77 known partners.

Looks are subjective. You might think they were ugly, but others might think they are gorgeous. And also, the dude fucking around when having a spouse is a piece of shit.

The first part kicks the chair from under your own previous argument. The second, while arguably true, is irrelevant to the topic except inasmuch that it illustrates being a dodgy bloke is no issue. ʅ ( • ε • ) ʃ

When did I ever say that looks are not subjective though? Of course, there are looks who more people find attractive, aka. toned body, symmetrical face, tall, nice skin, but some like things like obese women, hence the BBW fetish. Also, there is no way to prove the legitimacy of your claim, since it could be something you made up. Looking at it from an objective standpoint, seducers are mostly to always great looking.

Let's agree to disagree on the looks part, because no one extremely ugly, even if they were the most charismatic person in the world, could be great at seducing people.

This is simply false. I have known personally of two people who were, if not “extremely ugly,” definitely physically unattractive who had a constant stream of partners, almost all of whom most outside observers would consider to be significantly more attractive than they were. One of them routinely got out of bed with one person to go have sex with another one before going home to their spouse.

Call it “charisma,” call it a miracle, call it whatever you want, but I can guarantee that those people were exceptionally “attractive” without being good-looking at all.

Looks are subjective. You might think they were ugly, but others might think they are gorgeous. And also, the dude fucking around when having a spouse is a piece of shit.

Touma seems dumb af and all the girls are falling for her I don't get it

Insert *Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well" meme

You do realise a lot of very successful seducers (of either sex) IRL aren't even spectacularly good-looking? It's more about interpersonal skills and that ever-ephemeral "charm" or "charisma" or whatever you want to call it.

And Touma really comes across as someone who doesn't quite grasp the actual meaning of what they're doing. She probably just thinks she's being nice.

Let's agree to disagree on the looks part, because no one extremely ugly, even if they were the most charismatic person in the world, could be great at seducing people. That is just not how things work. Looks matter more than people want to believe, because lying to themselves about things they don't have makes them feel better.

I also get that she might not know what she is doing, but that in no way makes it less cringe and bad. If someone stole without knowing it was bad, they would still get punished, because what is done is done.

I hope Touma falls in love with someone and it never becomes requited, so she can get a taste of her own medicine. And truly, how could one get charmed by a person like her. She is basically an air-headed idiot with average looks.

First off, chill... It's not that serious. Secondly, I actually would like that to happen, but for a different reason. Maybe after that happens she'll realize what she's been doing to some girls up until that point. With it possibly being followed by some flashbacks or something.

Also, have you seen harem anime? That's pretty much the whole setup and there are tons of those out there. People still watch it, though. It's different here. Touma isn't our focus, she's the focus of the girls who fall for her charms. Our focus are the girls who do and the self-discovery journey they go on.

Lastly, "average looks"? That sounds a bit salty to me.

Compared to the other girls in the manga, she is average to worse. And in harem anime the MC is usually somehow innocent and ends up trying to push away the attention, but here the MC is basically like a pervert who can actually get her hands on people and not just have wishful thinking about doing things with people. The word "like" is key here, since I wouldn't want to have my words twisted around.

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You can read the third chapter here http://mangahasu.se/yuri-g44.html
I don't know how to feel about it. I don't mind the rape tag, but this is somehow making me feel weird. Not knowing that what you just did was have sex doesn't feel right. Also, I hope the girl will get more assertive if this continues as a relationship, because right now she is basically a starfish sex toy.

I hope Touma falls in love with someone and it never becomes requited, so she can get a taste of her own medicine. And truly, how could one get charmed by a person like her. She is basically an air-headed idiot with average looks.

I hope this won't go the predictable way, just like any other manga with a similar plot. One girl really wants to have sex with another girl, but when the time comes, the other girl will top the first girl, stopping her from giving back. It really seems to me like that is what is going to happen, but I can always hope for something more original. Like both of them giving and taking, which is really rare these days tbh XD.

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