Nora89

reference to ch77.. what mistake is Sumin talking about.. I also thought of ch64 bed talk.. Seju talked about her "dumb mistake".. and in this chapter they both talk about their mistakes subtly..

Now I'm overthinking Sumin's mistakes or times she would want to go back to the most. Ostracizing Seju? Losing the ring? Breaking their promises? There is not a completely obvious one here.

Till the end of time I would say, the ending was planned right from the beginning.. everything is connected.. every panel can be traced to another..

Nice work. :)

sayuri12

We're thinking the same then. I honestly believe that things can change up until the last minute with the way they set up. Right now though, I'm leaning towards Seju/Sumin being more possible.

You are very cautious, like me. XD Sometimes I think that way, but then I think a last minute change-up would not make sense (unless Team Gaji can do something about that).

But if they were going for Sungji/Sumin, then why aren't they putting more effort in substance to their relationship. It still doesn't outweigh the Sumin/Seju relationship at all. It still hasn't.

You are right. I feel the same way. They seem to have been showing the opposite for Sungji and Sumin: instability and less substance. And yes, they could've ended Seju and Sumin permanently multiple times, but they didn't.

Team Everyone Happy Here.

I wish the same, but I also wish the ending makes sense. And right now, this is favoring Sumin and Seju.

hlama

Sumin and Sungi's relationship feel very... cautious, for lack of better words, while sumin and Seju is more honest and intimate.

Glad many others have thought this as well.

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Nora89

Maybe, but at least you can sufficiently back up your confidence. :)

Nora89

Yeah, yoonie0104 is winning both ways. XD

You're the last person that deserves that fate and it would be sad to see happen (although, in mobile, you can't see avatars anyways).

I just finished making 10 slides of parallelism and similarities between chapters

Cool. :D

Nora89 and yoonie0104

What are the exact conditions of the bet anyway?

sayuri12

I am not one to bet, because only the authors know 100% what the ending is. It is not over until it is over, as the saying goes.

However, I believe that they have laid out a clear, solid ending for Seju and Sumin. All the pieces just need to come together. Their ending is the most logical one, given all that has been built up.

Team Gaji has not seemed to do the same for Sungji and Sumin. An ending for them would be open-ended and there is no clear goal that is set up for them.

That's the difference in my opinion, how final and definite the story could end.

Es0teric

I understand, I feel the same way. Some are easier to guess than others, based on stereotypes, or others just say it.

You are harder to guess, that's why I asked. The nature of this manhwa also adds to that perception.

Es0teric

That is probably the best and healthiest way to go about things.

Are you a guy or a girl? Curious. If that's too personal, then you don't need to say. XD

Foxy lady

True, well said. :)

Yes, us readers can just enjoy the product and discuss our thoughts.

Nora89

Fiction is great that way. It can make us believe people are meant for each other.

I have a similar mentality towards tattoos of that nature. It is a back and forth thing. Same thing with marriage.

Es0teric

I see, okay. :)

Nora89

lol I guess that's one way to put it. I just don't like heated arguments. XD

Es0teric

If you're referring to what I think, at least it's not their names. It's much more symbolic, but you probably knew that. ;)

Nora89

Yeah... you probably were not expecting a discussion like that.

Nora89

Haha, I enjoy watching some tattoo shows too when I get the chance. That is a common cover-up.

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Nora89

Okay, cool. :) Yeah, it would be great to hear what she has to say.

Nora89

How should I put this... To be honest, those sources are insufficient. You can find almost any article or book to conform to your ideals and thoughts.

What I'm looking for is something from the American Psychiatric Association or scientific articles (that contains an abstract, hypothesis, methods, data, results, and conclusion) specifically on those terms. If there was one, it would not be hard to find.

It is easy to make up a term and list out qualifications for it. The Internet does that all the time. The difference for professionals is that a consensus should be reached among many of them to the point where it can be officially part of the guidelines that they practice. This happens after multiple studies are done that reach a general conclusion about a specific disorder or treatment.

Do those terms fit Sungji? Yes, I won't argue with you there. I just hesitate to diagnose or classify her as that as those terms are not official.

I hope you get what I mean? I really don't want to argue.

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I'm leaning more towards Es0teric regarding this sensitive topic. This is all with the disclaimer that she is who she says she is.

Health care professionals run on guidelines that are formed from various studies that reach a general consensus (I'm studying to be one, so I think I do have some credibility here).

Nora89, I googled "eccentric personality" specifically the David Weeks one and "hysterical bonding" and there are no credible, medical sources that specifically discuss and diagnose those. There is a specific "eccentric personality disorder" but it is different from his article. Not that you're wrong to believe so! Those do fit Sungji, there is just no official consensus by professionals on those.

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LustGreed

You summed up the comments perfectly.

Nora89

I just need her to list the symptoms of "asperger's syndrome" and remind me of the supportive scenes or panels.. that's all !

If not Asperger's specifically, then something within the autism spectrum. It could possibly be argued that Sungji has it, but that doesn't change where the story is going though. I'm not sure if she could argue sufficiently about the ending.

Nora89

That was very apparent to me as well when I started to read this forum.

she claimed also that Sungji suffered from "asperger's syndrome"

Interesting... I did think along those lines too. Maybe that's why she's a Team Blonde? Because she interacts with patients on a regularly basis with similar disorders, so she has more empathy towards them.

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Nora89

okay, my narcissism is running wild tonight.. gosh!

I don't blame it. You deserve some ego boost with this chapter.

But again, it ain't over till it's over! I would hold off a bit until the end (but feel free to do whatever you want :D).

Es0teric

That's what I meant by brief. XD

Nora89

And it would be fun to watch you do so. :)

Es0teric

lol I gotta say, you have some of the briefest, straight-to-the-point posts on here, which is not a bad thing at all. It adds some variety. :)

There are some great posts here, so if you ever do feel like checking them out, I would recommend it.

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