yoonie04

Since you are playing on both sides and i haven't heard the other end, why do you think sumin and sungji will end up together?

Sorry it took me too long to answer, today is too hectic for my liking xD

Fate is the theme but there is another theme, finding love again and SuminxSungji fits perfectly in this category xD, just like fate for SejuxSumin

Another thing is Sungji, she is the reason for why I havent given up on this couple just yet even though I like Seju. The biggest reason why I still bet on this ending even though things have changed alot since the day I took this bet xDDDD. Just like Seju, she is persistent xD, she persist with what she chose and who she wanted to be with. Despite hurt and doubt from loving someone like Sumin, she still stays with her and being with her, trying her hardest to understand Sumin and being a good gf.

I'm sorry to all Sumin fans but despite all promising words Sumin has said to Sungji, Sungji is the sole reason why I still think SuminxSungji is possible xDDDDD, that I still have chance to win this bet, not because Sumin "loves Sungji more" or "Sungji is the person Sumin loves right now" or "SuminxSungji is better", otherwise, I would've given up long ago.

If the author goes for a theme when one person shouldnt give up too soon on someone who you think is a apathetic person from the outside, turning that person into someone she used to be, Sungji will be the ending that many of readers hope for

So imo, even though Sumin is the middle person, she is awesome but Seju and Sungji are the one who makes this love triangle special. They both represent two different things in love. Seju is forever love, Sungji is second chance, and both are equally meaningful in real life xDDD, which one do you think the author will go to? XDDDDD

I, for once, dont know myself but I like forever love more even though I feel that the author will go for second chance xDDDD

hehe, I've seen too many second chance endings so I'm sorry for being biased for my bias

last edited at Aug 13, 2017 9:52AM

yoonie you are full of contradiction. Smh.

Hehehe, I'm famous about that in the forum xddddd

Orange

Hahaha Yoonie this sounds quite masochistic! XDDDDD

Liking Seju is already masochistic itself XDDDDDD.

Nora89

hahahahhaha.. you may change it for a better shot of Seju muhahahha XD

I dont think I'll change till the bet is final xDDDDD. I've been waiting for so long for a perfect shot xDDDDD. This, the sad moment, the emotion, Seju's unreadable expression over a sad moment like this, I like this xDDDDD

This scene she lets Sumin leave the place without making a scene, begging or sth. I'm still waiting for her next scene to know what she is thinking, she lets Sumin go without uttering a single word after all. Its sad and its perfect xDDDDD

Foxy Lady

You can have everything. :D

I can have anything? XDDDDD So can I have Seju for myself instead? XDDDDDD.

But very nice post about love and what people see as obsession and toxic XDDDDD. I love it a lot

last edited at Aug 11, 2017 10:36PM

Except for her blinded love for Sumin that many readers keep saying she should move on, us readers wouldnt have anything else to complain about this character, really.

Even though you already make an exception but yeah, Seju's only flaw would be she loves Sumin so much that she forgets her own self xD.

People mistakenly thought that Seju loving Sumin so much is her flaw but actually the lack of self-worthy is her flaw so that she devoted herself to Sumin. So actually, moving on from Sumin or not doesnt fix it xDDDD. She'll still forever a girl who thinks she is useless even without Sumin. The problem is not Sumin but Seju herself xDDD.

Do I want her to learn to love herself? Yes, of course xD, but do I want her to be like a lot of people out there, using their mind even in love, calculate every actions by analyzing about right and wrong and being selfless? Hmmm, I dont think I want that xDDDD

I do realize that fact but I dont want her to fix that "flaw" of loving too much, like many others out there xDDDDD. People want her to be independent, to use mind and head while loving someone else and to be selfless in love while to me, the Seju who loves hard and and go hard for her love is the Seju I particularly love xDDD

She can learn to love herself but also crazily in love with only one person xDDDDD

She has a "flaw" but if I'm about to choose, a Seju who blindly loves so much, gives so much and would die for her love and a Seju who is so independent and learn to be fine with everyone who leaves her life and be able to move on easily, even if its the person she loves the most. I'd rather have a Seju with a flaw which is blindly love so much and being hurt so much

I'll still want to have a Seju who forever stupidly loves Sumin unconditionally and selfishly xDDDDD

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yoonie0104
I may not have commented back on many of your legendary points.. I found your comments on point in many occasions.. specially when you abandoned your bet to be just. XD Such a Libra, you haven't got that scale for nothing XD

I still wont let you win that easily, you know xDDDDDD

I even preapared for anything happened next 2 chaps by having Seju as my ava for awhile before having to change it xDDDDDD

So I guess it's safe to say that there is about 1 to 3(the most) chaps left in wdfts right? A talk between SuminxSungji and Seju's fate. That's it xDDDD.

Could've been pretty predictable if Sungji back away, Sumin said no, I've cut ties with Seju, I love you and only you, etc, lol, Seju visited the house and left, open ending for Seju XDDDDDD

Life gives her a decent amount. Wealth and health, two things that people wish for, she has them by birth. Time, she still has it. Career and respect, she achieves them. Freedom, she is getting it, even before chairman's death, she had a choice to free herself from her fam, she just chose not to do it. One person's love is what she is longing for, supposedly all she cares for... she can say that because she does not need to occupy herself with other life necessities. Her upbringing is not great, but I wouldn't go as far as blaming life from taking anything from her or not giving her enough. After all, orphans, slaves and war victims have it worse than her, they survive.

Life doesnt give her care or love, doesnt it? You list all the materialistic stuff and ask a person who lives by feelings and emotions to live on. Its like you give a crying child a toy while that kid is hungry as hell and want to eat.

Go ask depressed people why they are depressed?
They have family, they have career, they have money, they have health (before they fall into depression, that is) so why they committed suicide? Many reasons, at least for them. Go tell them you have family caring for them, you have money, you have a good career then leave them with a stack of sleeping pills, go back tomorrow, let's find out they die or alive.

Look at all the people who committed suicide. Are they all orphans, slaves, or war victims? Or ask depressed people who ask for help from doctor, are they all lacking of love, care, money?

Each case has each way to deal with the situation, you list all of these thing about her and think that's enough for you to force her to live, instead of thinking she herself thinks she is useless and not worthy, that she herself doesnt need a single thing you are listing. Give her a reason to find herself worthy and not useless first. And dont go tell her find inside her or from what she already has or being luckier than many people with blessings. You cant expect her go to nature, to an old house, standing there and magically realize she has a purpose to live. (oh, if TG could do that, I would admire them completely, maybe in that old house have diary about how much her mother loves her, lolllllll)

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Can't give her anything and not offering her anything. Will comes from within. I think she has it in her.

What comes from within her? She is not a monk, she doesnt have inner power.

What about suicidal attitude inside her, yeah, that's about right.

Anyway, sarcasm aside, life doesnt give her anything but takes away everything from her and you ask her to find will from within? You're asking too much from a human form who has endured more than 30 years living like that. And you ask her to continue living without committing suicide, finding will inside her? That she has to look at her life right now and go "its worth living. Lets try harder. You can do it. Fighting!!!". Such a shame for depressed people who committed suicide in the world who even have family caring for them when they look at Seju then

How long did it take for sumin to jump back to her after their breakup? She didn't kill herself during that break, and she won't die in the next break.

Her dying 10 years ago would be too soon, no wdtfs and suminxsungji. She should die now. Perfect timing.

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yoonie
Yoon, you are asking a philosophical question. XD
I would argue that most people do not know the purpose of their existence. People live to find their purpose; they may never find it, or they may think something is the purpose until it no longer is, then searching becomes "the thing" they delicate their existence to. Sad, empty? Maybe, depends on how you interpret it. Personally, I would like to make the most out of the search by enjoying the little things along the way.

You have to have the will to go on that searching journey of yours first to be enjoying it. So give Seju that will first before offering something else for her.

That's not good. We can't let that itch stay like that. Let me help you out.

Seju is god damn selfish and toxic! All she cares about is her past love and her guilt and shit. She does not care about how her existence affect sumin's life. I mean her family is psycho and she knows it, yet she still risk sumin's safety by clinging onto her. If she loves sumin so much, she should just move far far away from her and set her free! And get a god damn life or die already.

Come on. Let it out. Come at me.

LOL, I wont. Talk as you wish. She is all that, LOLLLLL

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Remember the scene when Seju's mother turned around by the window? Would be nice if Seju visited the house and standing right at that position, in front of the window. I wanna see that scene xDDDDD.

Hahaha you sure love to contradict yourself XDDD are you also the type who would play chess with yourself? lol!

Haha, I dont play chess but honestly, I like the version ending of SejuxSumin for many reasons screw the bet, lets go with this:

• Definition of true love xDDDDD. Some said this is toxic, dependent XDDDD but love is not some rational action to begin with xDDDD. Using my head to define love in WDTFS is like using my head to define depression and wonder why people kill themselves out of depression. What's is wrong with giving it all to one love? To dove your head first and sacrifice everything for your love without thinking? xDDDDDD

• The journey of finding happiness. SejuxSumin is a journey itself XDDDDDD

and with this current events, I want it more than anything else, but I dont find it realistic to go for it and abandon Sungji xDDDDD

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 11:57PM

Finding her own self-worthy doesnt mean she have to detach herself from the person that is, in your definition, the addiction xDDDDD

But, yoonie isn't this rather like trying to quit smoking cold turkey while having stashes of cigarette packs everywhere all around the house? XDDDD an exercise of extreme willpower lol

That's why I quote "in your definition" xDDDD, because I myself dont think it that way, I just go with their opinion xDDDDD, "addiction"

Nah, if I go SuminxSeju way, I would have to elaborate more about my comment which is not really smart since I bet for the other pair, LOLLLLLLL

Sometimes I just feel a little bit itchy with some comments saying Seju's love is an addiction and well...toxic or dependent xDDDDD. I dont see it that way but I also know why they think that way

I think I'm just gonna stop for now, I feel like our opinions are just gonna go around in a circle :P

Yeah, sure xDDDDD.

Yeah, that's the point we disagree, I don't think Sumin is the key, I think Sumin is the problem.

Sumin is the key and the problem xDDDD.

Seju states herself she only lives for Sumin, I'm not sure how being around Sumin can somehow lead Seju to not living for Sumin.

By Sumin's words and action, lol

You're too focused on the fact that she has to be far away from Sumin to be herself. She can be herself and learn to be herself with Sumin by her side, lolll.

Finding her own self-worthy doesnt mean she have to detach herself from the person that is, in your definition, the addiction xDDDDD

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I guess the characters learning to live for themselves would be the best way I can put it, I also think they can't really do that if any of them stay in a co-dependent relationship with each other.

1. Healing to Seju is finding her own self-worthy
2. Only Sumin could give Seju that kind of "healing". I re-phrase this, only Sumin could help her heal.

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 9:35PM

yoonie, Seju loves simple things... slippers, gloves.... she won't be able to use it where she is going. ;)

you're being so cryptic, I'm literally waving my white flag. I dont know how to interpret this xDDD. I'm so sorry.

But one question: In chap. 68, who do you think the King Fox for? Since, if Sungji really loves stuffed toys, she could have get the red tail fox in Sumin's apartment to which she intended to do so when she went there for she asked that in the cafeteria.
Thus, she was not really into stuffed toys but only love to be around in Sumin's apartment. An apartment that is obviously bigger and expensively interiorly designed with a modern multi-media system. hehe...

hmmmmm, dont tell me you insinuated she is into big fancy stuff? And someone with position like Sumin? #.#. That's pretty hard to believe @_________________@

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 9:36PM

Also, I find if "healing" is suppose to be a major theme of the story then that defeats any interpretation of "healing".

What is your definition of "healing"?

In front of Sumin, its a happy Seju but out of Sumin's view, I dont think she actually feels happy, lol. So I dont think its a happy Seju with Sumin xDDDDDD

I don't know how Seju could be happy really, she essentially dedicated her entire existance to being Sumin's girlfriend so she might as well be empty when she isn't dating Sumin.

Tell me, other than Sumin, what is thing that is meaningful for her? LOL. Put yourself in her shoes, dont just go and say, "find something else", or "find someone else". If she goes find "something else" or "someone else" and she also dedicated her entire existence to being beside that thing, what do you say? And from what I can see, she will also dedicate her entire existence to the next thing available. Isnt this also "empty"?

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 9:25PM

By the way, important question

Will Seju use Sumin's gloves before the story ends and will she even have a chance to use it? For what occasion? XDDDDDD

Just have soft spot for any character who has one sided, unrequited love.

Arent we all xD? That's one of important reasons why Seju gets alot of love anyway xD

Well to be honest sumin has get character development too, and I like this "new sumin" than her past self... she becomes more honest, and act in a way that wishing both side happy (seju & sungji)

She definitely has changed for the better. Some could say her recent acts are idiot but I like this version of her more than the past. More reasonable, courageous and determined xD.

However I do hope she doesnt make the wrong final choice and then officially regret for the rest of her life xDDDD

These previous chapters, giving away an illusion of happy seju with sumin, might be just a fan service (present) from TG to pink team, since they will end it the opposite.

In front of Sumin, its a happy Seju but out of Sumin's view, I dont think she actually feels happy, lol. So I dont think its a happy Seju with Sumin xDDDDDD

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 11:26AM

And now seju legitimately become my no1 favorite character beat the previous bias sumin. Lol

What's with the sudden change of heart? XDDDDD. Did Seju finally win your heart completely with her evil attitude? xDDDDD

but honestly though, the more this story prolongs, personally I think the more people start to like Seju than other two, not sure if this comment is biased or not xDDDD

Guessing next chapter would be hard for team pink

Has it ever been easy for them? Lol xDDDDDD.

last edited at Aug 9, 2017 11:08AM

Fun fact, Seju's short hair actually has gotten longer since its first appearance in chap 56 xD. So detailed, this Team Gaji xDDDD

Sumin is busy with Sungji and well, she doesnt even know where the house is, lol.

Sumin knows. chapter 58. :)

She does? I cant argue with you so let's see if she magically appeared at the door house or not XDDDDD

So we can have the satisfaction of seeing her free herself from her misery. :P
such a wishful thinking :P

Can't chap.89 suffice this perspective?... :)

Free from one but not from the bigger other xDDDD. Still wait for that one bit xDDDD

such a wishful thinking :P

What can I say? I am an optimist.
We will see in TEN MORE DAYS. =_=

Technically, its only 9 days from now xDDDDD.

The end is near, dont worry, the torture is almost over xDDDD

Hmmm, remember the time we agree on everything? Me either. Lol.

LOL, we only discussed once if my memory doesnt fail me xDDDD. Not too many to have some agreement, LOL

This chapter sends a mixed signal. She says she can't live without sumin, yet she says losing a family member does not feel as bad as she imagines. I will need the official translation to get a better feel of what that entails.
Maybe something about her mother or motherhood will hold her back.

She has never felt something special towards her family before, even her father. They're all a rope that tied her down, she is well aware of that so she knows she should feel sad but she didnt feel it.

I'd rather focus on her tone about Sumin like she questions herself what would happen if she also lost Sumin now, Saehyun's answer is the same as last time and her face xDDDD.

Simply because she was pushed to the edge now

Is she pushed to an edge, or released from her cage? She is free from her family for the first time, something that has weighted her down even before sumin comes into hey life.

Is it free her from her cage or actually free her from the obligation from living her life? You could see freedom as her living freely but also could see no tie holds her back and Sumin would be the only thing matters and if it's gone, what is there to live?

Thing is, I believe, she has always wanted to have that freedom she is gonna have right now but not alone, she wants to have it with Sumin xDDDD.

So we can have the satisfaction of seeing her free herself from her misery. :P

such a wishful thinking :P

Would've been funny if after all the discussion, next chap Sumin and Sungji will have the talk then have one hell of a sex, lollllll