Kyonne posted:

I miss when robots couldn't climb stairs

Holy fuck that is amazing @__@

Alice Cheshire posted:

I do actually intend to roll it into the Thingifier eventually though. I just need to find the time and energy to deal with it is all.

Yea, I think it would be neat, since Thingifier already have so many functions so adding titles to it wouldn't be a stretch. But of course when you have time and energy x3

Edit2: Ah wait, I thought you were talking about the Title Rethingifier but after logging into Greasyfork I see I was mistaken. I'll get the Thingifier post edited.

Sorry for confusion. Yea, both names are kinda wonky, so Thingifier and Rethingifier can get mixed up easily.

That's just listing how many userscripts are active on the current page.

Ah ok. Thanks.

Also I have red 1 on top of Tampermonkey icon as if there was some message or something, but I can't find it anywhere, not to mention I can't even see all the options when I click on it, since for some time for some reason when I do, the window is not fit to what is inside, but has set size, even if it means cutting the part of content inside. I have the same issue with uBlock for some time.

Ok so I finally stopped being lazy and deleted Greasemonkey and installed Tampermonkey. I was only using Thingifier and Title Rethingifier, but it seems the title thing is now part of the Thingifier? At least it works for me with just Thingifier installed. Rethingifier required being logged in on some other account on some other site or something so maybe that is the case? Though I'm not logged in there right now and I don't see anything expect for Greasemonkey active/installed on my firefox.

EDIT/ Nvm, I found it is still installed in scripts page. Well I'm not really good with it, so I thought thingifier was installed through Tampermonkey, but apparently Firefox has separate page from add-ons etc. for scripts and it instaled there through Tampermonkey? Either way my previous confusion was solved.

Speaking of it, I think the post for Thingifier should be updated. Sure the OP says you need to use Tampermonkey for both browsers, but the post that is linked there still says Firefox uses Greasemonkey and links to it, so if someone will miss that 1 line in main post, they can try to install Greasemonkey instead.

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Nya-chan posted:

Inb4 their friendship is ruined and their school life too.

Never listen to advice on the interweb. Listen to yourself.

While I don't really disagree with the bolded part people do kinda have a point. You can't just sit around waiting for something to happen. Yes there's a risk to their friendship. But at the same time if you refuse to take risks then there's very little chance of things ever changing.

I feel like the solution in the manga, is pretty much the best advice people could give to this person as well, but well, I'd need to spoil the chapter 3 first. So I guess wait for when YP get to last chapter?

Whelp, since we are waiting on chapter 3 does anyone want to take bets on whether it will be Mii or Hinako who makes the first move to patch things up?

I could, but idk if you want, since I know how it ends.

woah creator pls slow down

the story is way too fast

It is only 3 parts long, so it kinda have to be.

Welp, doesn't have to do it anymore. With how long people need to wait for me to do anything, I don't think it is actually a bad thing I guess...

It's been three four months and we still don't know who planted that kiss

It was all a dream.

So I think the "cheating" is either a misunderstanding

I'm pretty sure it will turn out to be stupid misunderstanding, but this way before it will be cleared, we will get few chapters of, sweet, sweet drama and people waiting eagerly to see where it will go.

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Either way, that scenario is a bit of a stretch. He married Kaoru because he realized his sister loved her, and Kaoru needed her too? This guy must have the compassion and intuition of a saint.

Honestly the chance of it working exactly this way is so low, I'm questioning how in any way it would be a good idea. Either just have serious talk with them or don't marry the girl your sister loves hoping it will magically bring them together somehow. And if he tried to cover for them, so nobody will give them shit, how about simply suggesting to marry Kaoru but let them do their thing, while he does his? Seriously, no matter what, just doing it silently and hoping the girls will figure out his actual intentions and become a couple, is such uncertain plan, there is no way it could ever work without some crazy luck. Unless he has some weird need of sacrificing himself for others without taking for it any credit and he doesn't want them to ever figure his real intentions out and is fully prepared to hurt and be hated by either or both of them. Again, it is simply way too convoluted and, like in most manga, it is something much easier solved by talking than trying to do something for others without actually asking if they want it in the first place.

The more likely explanation is simple "the wheel of drama must spin on" in order for series to keep going and audience to be interested in reading it.

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Nevri posted:

https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/morinaga_milk (ok I guess except for Mare)

What's wrong with Mare? Serious question because it's one I have yet to get around to reading.

It is nothing like her other works, it is hentai with dark themes, het, rape, gore etc. It does have a yuri ending and I don't think it is bad work by any stretch. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. Still it isn't work for just anyone and definitely not something for new readers.

This is a really good one https://dynasty-scans.com/series/stretch

Don't kill me Nez ;P

EDIT/ On a serious note you can start from reading anything from those authors:
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/takemiya_jin
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/morishima_akiko
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/otsu_hiyori
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/morinaga_milk (ok I guess except for Mare)

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There was none of that in the manga, they both pursued Hazumu as equals.

Yea. That was better imo too. Later part of the anime feels a bit weaker in general, especially with it feeling like Hazumu got guilt tripped into choosing Yasuna and stupid misunderstanding.

Also, I swear this is my last off-topic post here. I actually tried searching for Kashimashi thread, to post there, but it does not exist, apparently...

Well manga is not uploaded here so no wonder. And yes I think we can safely end it here or move it to manga general thread or something x3

I was just pointing out similarities with stuff I've experienced in NTR, not actually calling it NTR.

The way you said it sounded like that, hence my respond.

Itsuki never really deceive her.

That is plainly wrong, regardless of the rest :p

Well it wasn't his fault the first time. And you can argue whatever or not once she explained her situation and asked him to help her, it was right or wrong for him to help her out while keeping his gender a secret. Sure he had impure motives, but it wasn't like he tried to manipulate her, in fact only thing he wanted was to point her into direction of his male self and then do the rest of work as a guy. My point is, deceiving is kinda a strong word. It sounds like he is tricking or manipulating her, while in fact, he tried to genuinely help her and didn't really took advantage of his position other than trying to make her aware of his male self.

Meanwhile, Itsuki, who's trying to help her to get closer to her with the goal to be with her, falls for another girl.

Nobody is obligated to pursue their first love. His feeling simply changed over time which might not happen had Tokujira made her move faster.

Also just in case, I never thought she deserved it or anything.

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I'm pretty sure you either use the term NTR incorrect or don't understand what it actually mean. This is just a normal love triangle, there is nothing NTR about it.

in the stories I read which were labelled NTR, the MC get their love interest taken from them because they take too much time or don't want to actually commit to their feelings

And that is what I meant I feel like your definition is off. NTR is mostly about 2 characters loving each other and/or actually being in relationship, but then the love interest (female since it is usually het stuff) get blackmailed in some way and forced to leave MC and ends up getting mind broken or w/e to be with other guy and the usually ending is the MC finding out and being unable to do anything other than (usually, but not always) fapping to some sex tape of his beloved. Sure, there are some stories where they aren't a couple yet and girl doesn't necessary loves the guy yet, but girl still gets stolen by some guy, who usually at least knows the MC's feelings or I guess in rare cases it just happen so just bad luck, but for the most part I'm familiar with stories as I described first. People say the MC gets off on his lover being stolen, but I never get that impression, it always happen when it is already too late and MC is a wrack devastated by his lose so he just goes to business because he lost all his will etc.

The point is that in NTR stories, I've seen people write "the cucked one (that would be Tokujira there) deserves it"

And that is again something I never saw. The guy who is doing the cucking is usually some assholes which abuses his power or something else in the first place to steal the girl, because he can. To me NTR is a really specific kind of work, usually really dark and fucked up to the core, that is why you describing this series as one sounds to me so wrong on so many lvls.

That would've been less sad if it was Tokujira's own fault to lose her love interest. But since she was deceived by Itsuki, I find it unfair

Itsuki never really deceive her. I mean, she would never pay any attention to him if he wasn't dressed as a girl. By dressing as a girl that was the only way she would even come to know him and we still aren't sure w/e she fallen for him as a girl or as guy, so in the end you could say, she had chance to love him as either only because he "deceived" her in the first place. So yes, it was her own fault. Botan simply had better chemistry with him whatever boy or girl version, so no wonder Itsuki's feelings changed during time Tokujira was doing nothing.

As for the anime, yeah, it was over before the final volume of the manga was published, so the staff had to wing it regarding the ending. But, considering that a snippet of the OVA, specifically, the parts where Yasuna breaks up with Hazumu and Hazumu then confesses to Tomari, are included in the last regular episode (12th episode, after the credits), and even the OVA came before the final volume of the manga. means that the anime ending of Hazumu/Tomari actually predates the manga ending.

I didn't bother to check dates, but I didn't remember it was included in last episode. I was sure it was all in the OVA. My bad then.

That being said, it was done much better in the manga. In the anime the breakup with Yasuna has little sense, and it somewhat cheapens Hazumu's feelings for Tomari, when Hazumu practically immediately after said breakup confesses to the other girl. I mean, I liked it because I rooted for Tomari (in both versions), but the anime ending felt like something out of left field.

Yes, the ending really put a dumper on things. It felt pretty satisfying until weird breaking them up with little to explanation and then Hazumu just going to his second choice as if Tomari was a back up or something. Still even if anime and manga differ quite a bit, I still like them both. They both have good points I think. Then again I watched anime few times (I really love the comedy in early episodes) and read manga only once. Maybe I should give it a re-read sometime soon. Btw what I much like more in manga over anime is the Yasuna's approach, or I guess their personalities are totally different. In anime she is too afraid to approach Hazumu, even after he turned into a girl, in manga once he turns into a girl, she realized it is like a miracle for her cos now she don't have to worry of it disappearing one day and comes on strong at him at every opportunity. Her being so aggressive was really refreshing compare to typical melodramatic love triangles.

Edit: Also, lol, getting off topic too much.

Just a little bit ;P

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It hurts my heart to see Tokujira crying like that... Being too late is a common mistake in netorare stories, but here it doesn't feel like she deserved it (contrary to what some may think in NTR stories)

I'm pretty sure you either use the term NTR incorrect or don't understand what it actually mean. This is just a normal love triangle, there is nothing NTR about it.

Speaking of this, I wonder if there's a manga where there's a triangle and then the MC goes for one of them, then, after a while, breaks up and goes for the the second one.

Except Kashimashi girl meets girl, which is the only one that pulled that off as far as I know.

Only in the anime version.

Was about to comment on that. Well it was more that at some point manga and anime went different ways and in anime he ended up with different girl. He actually does end up with her as the series ends. It is only in ova (which came much later I assume) it is explained in 1 sentence that they broke up off screen and he started to date the other girl which imo was a insult to people who actually enjoyed anime. I'm not sure if it is true, but my best guess it happened because of course anime was being made as manga was still ongoing and it kinda looked the girl they choose in anime would win, but later the other one won so they wanted to retcon it for some unyurily reason?

Hazumu was actually predestined to die, they knew this, courtesy of alien-kun. She was unable to decide between Yasuna and Tomari until it was almost too late. At the last moment, when she was mere seconds away from dying, she called out to Tomari. Alien-kun used some alien techno stuff in that precise moment to connect their hearts and thus save Hazumu (he was only able to do this because of 'true love', thus making it even more entrenched that Tomari is the one).

The fact he was supposed to die wasn't really that important. He simply was undecided who he loves more. And he didn't actually wait till the last minute. He was about to confess who he loves more or maybe even say both, but Alien-kun made a mistake in his calculations and Hazumu died faster than he thought. Also it wasn't like he had to make decision, it was more that in theory if his love would be strong enough and other person would share the same feelings, Alien-kun might be able to do something, but that wasn't certain. In fact Hazumu couldn't even know about the connecting hearts deal, because if he had started to think about it in terms of prolonging his life, it would make his feelings impure and make the whole deal impossible. The reason their love was "true" was because in his last moments, the person that first came to his mind was Tomari, making her the person he considered the most important and it still wouldn't work if Tomari didn't immediately jump in to try and save him, showing his live was more important than hers and she was ready to sacrifice it for him. So that was the only reason they fates could be linked together, because in that instant they shared a strong bond thinking only of each other. So they simply just loved each other that much.

You know, just ask anyone you know who know Japanese, or just people on this site, see how they would translate and read that. Cause apparently, you aren't willing to understand what I'm saying at all. I'm done trying to explain.

And thanks for reading and liking the stuff I do.

I have a degree in Japanese from a good university. I have studied the language for 18 years now, and studied in Japan for a year in college. I don't need to ask anyone, I know what is correct per my education.

That explains why you worship jps so much. Go read raws then instead of wasting time on inferior translations since you clearly don't need them. We don't need people who try to be smug about their knowledge here.

I'll say it again, NEEKO is a combination of ニート (NEET) and 子(ko). NEET is spelled Niito in Japanese. Her nickname being like that is a reference to her being a NEET.
Besides, anyone who knows how NEET is read, both in English and Japanese, will read her name exactly the same way it is written in Japanese, Nii-ko, hence ニー子. Nobody will read it as ネー子.

I'll say it again, you're romanizing the Japanese pronunciation of an English loan word, and as such it should be done (IMO) phonetically, not trying to mimic the original acronym. If you wanted to do that you should do it as NEE-ko, which would be distracting. The joke doesn't work in translation so it's better to just write the name pronouncably correct.

Ok, you are missing the point so freaking much...

1. There is no such thing as pronounceably correct. Every single language has different way to write the sounds so they will be correctly pronounce.
2. This is a japanese>english translation, as in, it is meant to be understood by english speaking people, hence if you are going to preach about any correct spelling, you should be looking if the spelling is correct in english.
3. While jps word ニート is indeed the loan word of NEET, it is still used in that exact meaning. It could make sense if the loan word gained new interpretations or connotation, but as far as I know, the word is used the same in both jps and english, so in fact, you should be writing it as NEET. If it was a sentence I can imagine leaving it in "correct spelling" would actually look jarring. "I'm currently a niito."
4. The way jps spell things isn't sacred or anything. They just happened to spell most of their stuff phonetically unlike english. In fact, they actually try to write english words the closest possible to english pronunciation using their language to write it "pronounceably correct". In every instant where they can, they actually do spell it NEET. There is no point obsessing about how jps spell something and instead you should spell it the way you know how to read it.
5. I can understand where you are coming from though. When I saw tittle i wasn't sure which way I should read it as well, but after seeing the chapter, it was pretty clear it was the joke on the word NEET. If I have to say anything I actually don't know if people will get it for different reason. To me it is clear it is a play on words NEET by adding ko to it, which is a common way to end names, so by extension creating nicknames. But I'm not sure average person will catch on it and realize the "Nee" in "Neeko" is indeed the "Nee" from NEET and the "ko" part is just meant for making it a name. Maybe I'm thinking too deep into it, but just recently I realized that some things that are obvious to me at this point, might not be to new readers or someone who is new to manga and jps in general. Ignoring the spelling, maybe a short tl note somewhere explaining the gag might not be bad idea in this case. Alternatively trying to turn NEET into actual english name/nickname, but that could turn out even worse.
6. Honestly, whatever you write it as "Neeko" or "NEE-ko" is the least important thing as long as it works. In fact writing it as NEEko, might actually work better as a short-cut that "nee" is part of NEET and fix my issue from point above.
7. While some jokes are indeed hard or even impossible to translate, it doesn't mean you shouldn't at least try, since simply ignoring them is just as bad.

Sequel! First chapter in Galette No.4!

Seriously? Awesome!

So I finally started to play Kindred Spirit and while I enjoy it so far... why the hell they didn't tl it as Yuri Spirits? I kinda get what they were going for with tl'ing it as kindred, but that is the best pun/gag in entire game, not to mention the freaking title of the game, so the fact translation doesn't contain the yuri part of it is a huge misopportunity. And before anyone say, someone might not know what the word yuri means and translation should translated things like that, they explain what the yuri word mean in the beginning of the game and later even one of story lines is called "Yuri Cupid" so even if you wouldn't know what it means before playing a game, you definitely would after. Really such a shame people who can't speak jps won't experience that funny joke.

I thought we were past this crap

That is the only kind of drama Saburouta can write. And we need drama to keep interest and popularity of the series. There is even a high chance editor was the one who forced this, saying something like "ok, we had enough of nothing happening, create some tension so we can keep reader wondering what will happen next and not get bored of reading this".

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Um I did mention that it is gruesome in my first post didn't I?

I forgot.

You forgot to mention the messed, depressing and fucked up premise of the manga. Idk really if it is worth getting through just for some subtext yuri.

I think if you try to convince someone that something they think is bad is actually good by pointing out that other people like it, you're missing the point.

Not when people try to state their opinions as if they were facts. And especially not when they try to state that their opinions are of the majority.

I never did that though. It had potential that it thrown away and went the worse possible way. Even if the manga gets good after it in 20th chapter, it doesn't change the facts that (most of) those 19 before it were terrible. I know it is popular and scored high by a lot people. It doesn't make the series good for me. Everyone has different taste and ways to judge series. I read my fair share of shoujo manga, to know why exactly people love Citrus, despite it flaws. I used to read that kind of stuff with anticipation too. I just grow tired of it, so cheap tricks like that doesn't work on me anymore.

Only if those who bashed it did it because doing so was popular.

More seriously, it's funny how in many threads I find people bashing Citrus every occasions they get, some even coming back to the manga's thread swearing they would forget it forever several years before. I guess it's the manga you love to hate.

I agree bashing it just because it is popular thing to do is pretty stupid/immature thing to do. I on the other hand simple think series went down hill really quick, really fast, but I'm not going out of my way to announce it to everyone. That being said I dislike when in this and similar cases, people who like it, simply assume the person in question hates it because it is popular thing to do and not because they actually have reasons to hate it.

EDIT/ Sign, again mode wrote when I was typing. I was going to suggest continuation of this topic in Citrus thread if the need will arise though.

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Isn't bashing Citrus out of fashion by now?

Only if those who bashed it did it because doing so was popular.

Yeah, cause the ratings and sales totally backs up all the hate. /s

popularity =/= quality

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