More over, I don't know why you would think I'm mad about anything. You would have no reason to assume that unless you were looking for an excuse to dismiss my points without a solid reason why.
I doubt they were looking for any excuse to dismiss your points without a solid reason why. I think the impression you made on them felt overly aggressive because (to them) you seemed to attack their views on the manga in an unnecessarily harsh manner while blatantly telling them they're wrong and you're right, without any margin of error. From one side, your arguments are perceived as analytical, while from another side, they sound like absolute shut-downs with no room for debate.
You mean the relationship she as no reason to think is anything other than explanation? You're confusing knowledge readers have with the knowledge the characters have of each other. If you want further elaboration why you're wrong just go back and re read the thread because nothing you have said is new in comparison to the people before you.
I actually thought she meant to use the "romantic relationship" as a reason to reject confessions, while being able to have a friend to hang out with in Miu.
I also don't understand why you don't like having lots of confessions for Fujiwara. Please elaborate.
On principle I hate any and all harems, implied or otherwise. Because they are nothing more than cop out story telling devices used to forcibly progress the plot with no real justification.
Are harems that uncommon in real life? My impression of Japanese culture is limited to what I see in fiction and media and a few non-fiction sources, but I thought they were influenced by reality to some extent. Which lead to harems being used in stories. If not, and harems are really more wishful-thinking, then it'd be quite nice to see less of them.
Receiving confessions - whether serious or out of admiration - would happen regularly for popular people, and doesn't seem to imply harems on their own. Even only among girls, it seems to happen enough for the Japanese people to deem it a normal part of adolescence.
Not to mention the whole "everybody is gay point. It is silly and unrealistic to assume so many gay people would be in one place at one time.
I'm a little confused about when this was pointed out.
EDIT: My apologies. I'd originally meant to ask when the everybody is gay point had been laid out, but I ended up asking something like the opposite.
There's a stereotype that girls' schools tend to have meaningless relationships between one another as an experimental kind of thing
This is a cliché, not a stereotype. Very big difference. But, that's besides the point you're trying to make. And as it's already been noted that it's stupid to think she could pick of on Miu's vague singles of being upset around those other girls but not be be able to tell if the people confessing to her are serious.
By cliché, meaning in stories? I thought it was a real stereotype too, and not only because of manga.
I didn't see Miu's signals of being upset as vague, but maybe that's just me. Also, I thought Fujiwara might have realized that letting the club members tag along on their date may not be the best way to simulate one, but again, probably only what I read into it.
There are cases where the girls are using the subject of their love/admiration as a replacement for a man, but they themselves may not have realized this yet. Often, the intense admiration for an idol can also be confused for love. Experimentation is definitely a thing. It complicates matters when some of the girls are truly in love, but for various reasons restrain themselves from emotional or otherwise telling displays of heartbreak when they are rejected, assuming they confess at all. Fujiwara seems to have a certain preconception of such confessions - namely that they are more likely to happen at girls' schools - and although she admits that they seem serious, she still has doubts. There has been little to no detail about how these confessions unfolded, so it's difficult to gauge how insensitive/clueless she may possibly be regarding these matters.
She'd have to be thinking like this. "Oh this girl came up to me all teary eyed, confessed. I rejected her and she left crying... Eeeeh? She must have been just joshing with me; back to volleyball practice".
If that can't be taken seriously no confession can.
When/where was the exposition on this?
Honestly, it seems to me like you're purposely trying to rile everyone up.
Again, you have no reason to think other than you want to dismiss my points with no solid evidence. Just because I don't blindly gush over everything and anything that's tagged as "yuri" does not mean I'm trying to antagonize people.
Humans have varying levels of sensitivity when it comes to blunt statements like those you've made, especially in environments like the internet where lack of other visual and auditory cues may contribute to a misleading impression. I think they felt you were forcing your theories and views on others in a less than diplomatic manner. Your criticism of one (perhaps a non-native Anglophone) for their English may have appeared unforgiving of the difficulty of discussion in a foreign language. I know there are other non-Anglophones who are also similarly unforgiving of those who don't master English, though. In addition, there are native Anglophones whose English is much worse than ESL graduates, so I suppose some struggle with language more than others. There was some confusion, but I mostly understood what they were trying to convey.
So I don't think the things that you're citing are actually contradictions.
Key word here being "think". What you personally think is not really relevant to anything. And even if that was the only contradiction, you'd be wrong. Because there are other contradictions that have been pointed out in this very thread.
I think he was stating the facts as he perceived them, but did not express it in as direct or absolute a manner. He may be allowing room for debate since he did not imply his perception of the facts was the only truth.
do you know ANYTHING about autism?
I can't exactly respond to any of these points because you did not pick up on the fact the term "autism" was being used euphemistically, not literally. Everyone else noticed that though. Kind of another reason why anything you think or say does not hold any validity.
That last sentence in particular is an example of why some would be misled to thinking you carry a hostile and/or angry attitude with your comments. It can be interpreted as rational and practical, but also can be seen as provocative and disparaging, especially if insinuation of one's stupidity is detected.
/rambling
Good-night.
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