NozoEli and JolKs are my OTP. Is it possible to change the name of the pairing to Eli X Nozomi? In NozoEli Radio Garden, they specifically said that Eli's spelled with a "L" not a "R".
Likewise. I keep watching JolKs stuff on youtube till my eyes become too dry. xD
Kayo-chin! Hahaha, they just have way too many cute moments that it's impossible not to ship them.
From the concerts alone, there's:
3rd: NozoEli convo between Arifurete and Junai Lens
4th: GARASU NO HANAZONO
5th: Forehead touch during the MC
Final: Kssn running into Nan-chan's arms at full speed during Super Love Super Live
Fan-meeting: Kssn was being hyper, Uchi asked what could be done to calm her down, Rippi immediately started calling for Nan-chan (who's resting backstage due to her knee injury).
Ch. 4 is out! Someone please translate it and post it here <3
As for the imbalanced relationship... From what I see, Chiru's incompetency in doing household chores is understandable cause she's an Ojou-sama that hasn't needed to do anything for herself. But she is trying, and I respect her for it.
Ch. 4 reveals Senri's past, and I really don't think the relationship is imbalanced at all after reading that chapter. Senri may seem like the reliable one, but she has her fragile moments, and while it may seem like Chiru isn't contributing much to their relationship, she is lending Senri strength by staying by her side and supporting her. The accepting love and support are not tangible products that can be evaluated like a meal or new clothes, but don't underestimate the power that are brought when you know and feel that you are loved! :D
As a certain Wise Wolf once said: "Loneliness can cause death." And I know she's grateful for that someone that came into her life and journeyed with her through both hardships and happiness.
I LOVE YOU, ITOU-SAN!!! ONEE X LOLI IS THE BEST!!!
Can we just appreciate this sweet, sweet love between a kind-of-socially-awkward-but-looks-ikemen-as-heck-and-is-actually-such-a-gentle-loving onee-chan and a super moe little girl? Master hasn't done anything that Mel doesn't like, so can we stop with the "Stockholm syndrome" comments. I mean... really?! Stockholm?!?!
There are so many -- WAY TOO MANY -- things that are worse than this, things that are actually sick... and you think THIS is CREEPY?! Yeah, there's an age gap, but that doesn't mean it's evil... They love each other, so they kissed (she even asked for her permission before she kissed her!!!). She caught her when she's in danger, and told her she's fine just the way she is when she was feeling insecure... Mel even said she loves being in the embrace of Master. People. Please.
The "Fox borrowed the might of a tiger" is a Chinese saying (I'm not sure if it's also a saying in Japan). If I remember correctly, the story goes: a tiger captured a fox and was about to eat him, when the fox told the tiger, in a haughty manner, that he is actually the king among animals. The tiger didn't believe him, so the fox asked the tiger to walk behind him and observe how all the other animals run away at the sight of the fox. The tiger agreed and saw, indeed, all the animals fled upon seeing the fox. What the tiger didn't know, was that all the animals fled upon seeing him. It means someone weak borrowing the strengths of a strong person for their own advantages.
Here it's changed to racoon dog (aka Tanuki) because that's Nozomi's "spirit animal". XD
That's subjective within ANY culture. This post was extremely informative and I commend you for that. However, if Sun Jing wasn't such a charming and attractive person by nature, Qiu Tong might not be quite as receptive to her friendship. In practice it looks like things are turning out well for the two, but I don't think it's unreasonable to interpret Sun Jing's actions as 'potentially' pushy and scary.
True, I was more addressing the issues with the translation, but yes, I agree that it isn't unreasonable for people to think of her actions as pushy. Thank God that Sun Jing is the charming person that she is ;)
^ I'm so glad people recognized the seiyuu reference! On top of Shika-chan's reference, I'm wondering if the artist is inspired by the Fan Meeting at Tokyo Day 2. Emitsun mentioned that she was at the zoo looking at polar bears when she suddenly spotted a Honoka bag or phone strap.
Ok, I've been reading the discussions about this work for a while and being someone that has been following the Chinese updates (someone fluent in Chinese) I just HAVE to make an account and clear some things up.
The manhua's original name is "SQ: Beginning with Your Name". (S for Sun Jin, Q for Qiu Tong). In case anyone's wondering.
Qiu Tong (Written: 秋瞳) is NOT pronounced as Tsiou (there's no such sound in Chinese as Tsiou) but more like Cho. (I must confess, I honestly cannot fathom why "Q" was chosen for "Ch" sounds and "X" for "Sh" sounds... But alas, I'm not the one to have designed Pinyin.)
By the same logic, Qi Fan (Written: 祁放) is pronounced Chi Fun (For the vowel sound in "Fan", think of the beginning vowel sound in the word "Encore".) And Qin Xiong (Written: 秦雄) is pronounced Ching Shong.
Sun Jing is in 1st year of high school. That should translate to grade 10, not grade 9.
"Xiao" (Written: 小) in the context of this work is used as endearments to people. As others before me have said, you can think of it as "chan" or "kun" from Japanese. If you put it in the context of English, it's like calling your friend "Alex" instead of the full "Alexandra", I guess.
Sun Jing' confession. In Chinese, if A likes B and is actively trying to win B's hand by doing things that please B, we will say "A在追B". A direct translation would be "A is pursuing B". But, please, CONTEXT is all when you are translating. Due to the natural evolution of languages, the "A在追B" is actually a shortened form of "A在追求B", which really means "A is chasing after B / hoping to win B's favor by doing things that pleases him/her". (Chasing in this context as if someone is chasing after a dream. NOT chasing after a prey, like how the translation led a lot of people in this thread to think about. I must confess I was screaming a little when I saw all the comments saying how "scary" Sun Jing was, or how she's going to "scare her off"... all because of the way her confession is translated word-for-word without given the proper context!)
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Sun Jing didn't ask: "Am I annoying you?" She was asking "Do you dislike me now?" And while it may seem like she's smiling, you can see in the next panel that she has her hands in fists from nervousness behind her back. She's scared to hear that QT is repulsed by her declaration of love, and she's literally standing there wondering if the worst will come. When QT didn't reply right away, SJ then asked: "So you don't dislike me?" To which an embarrassed QT replied: "Dislike!" (though it's pretty obvious it's a tsundere moment.)
Maybe this is a cultural difference thing (?), but when I first read the part of her confession and the consequent chapters, I thought it was really adorable. Like some of you have said, Sun Jing is creating a basis of attraction, because if she doesn't say anything, Qiu Tong will likely never see her as a romantic interest due to them being the same gender. I am sure Qiu Tong is attracted to Sun Jing already, prior to the confession on the bridge, but I don't think she realized it for what it is. As is shown in more recent chapters, QT is actually quite lonely at home. As for at school, while she is cute and kind, that doesn't contradict her statement of being not good at socializing or being around other people. To QT, SJ is special. She is the one who went out of her way to befriend her. Her introduction of "Hello, my name is Sun Jing" was the beginning of their relationship and to show that she is grateful for SJ to come into her life, QT reciprocated SJ by saying "Hello, my name is Qiu Tong.".
SJ's insistence on accompanying QT home didn't seem pushy, as QT was flustered but wasn't really mad from her confession. My heart went out to SJ a bit, actually, cause she was trying to be as optimistic as she can. She knew she was going to be rejected by Qiu Tong, but she still faced her feelings up front. She needed to follow QT, because she needed to know if QT is repulsed by her confession, and she needed to ease up the mood to prevent QT from avoiding her forever in the future. And even after QT shouted "dislike!" at SJ, she tried to ease up the mood for both of them by purposefully saying: "I like you and you dislike me, we're perfect then, our feelings complement each others!"
Then, it starts raining and SJ's first reaction was to use her bag to cover QT. And QT's reaction was to cover SJ's arm so her wound wouldn't get rained on. This caring action cheered on SJ, and is the reason why she was smiling to herself -- because all is not lost, even after her confession, QT is still willing to care for her.
QT's declaration at the end is confusing because SHE HERSELF is confused. She knows at that point that she doesn't like SJ in the way she hopes, so in order to not give her false hopes, she decided to let her know clearly that she can't reciprocate her feelings. It is precisely because she really does treasure SJ that QT wants to let her know right away that she doesn't like her in that way. She doesn't want to let things slide and end up leading SJ on falsely, only to one day turn back and say "I only ever saw you as a friend.". She doesn't want to hurt SJ, whom she cares.
SJ is relieved that QT cares for her still, so she teased her for a bit. (I mean, flustered QT is sooo cute, who wouldn't want to tease her a bit? XD) And then she said: "You don't need to reciprocate my feelings. You can be passive, you don't need to reject me (as in, you don't need to worry that by not rejecting me now you will end up hurting me in the future), you don't need feel obliged / responsible to return my feelings."
"I just need to you to not reject me (as in, not shut me out completely, and that will be enough.)."
QT got teary-eyed and asked SJ: "Are you an idiot?" because she's moved by how far SJ is willing to go for her. SJ's literally telling her: "I will keep on liking you and caring for you even if you never return my feelings. As long as I get to be with you, then that is enough."
Hopefully that long-winded explanation help clear up the situation a bit. SJ is not being "creepy" or "pushy" or whatever scary traits you've attributed to her -- she's actually just the adorable dork that she's been since the beginning of the series.
The girl's confession to Qi Fan. "I have a good feeling about you". ...Wut. If any of you are wondering who the heck would say this in a confession... you're right, no one would. This is, once again, a word-for-word translation. In Chinese "我對你有好感" may be translated literally like ^, but really, it means "I like you.". CONTEXT IS ALL.
I think this is all, for now. I hope this helps. God, it's just so frustrating when things get lost in translation and misunderstandings about other cultures occur. It's like, if the only North American TV show being aired in Asia is about teens partying and getting pregnant at 16 with no idea who the dad is, and the people in Asia believe that all of North America is like that. shudders.