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Anime season 28 May 11:09
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

22/7 shows a new clip !!! http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6k9taj
anime is saved (?)

Whose "onee-san" does she like again?

"Itoko no oneesan" is cousin. I wonder if the "oneesan" part is to make sure the cousin is female. I would guess it's that, but I'm not sure.

She says it's a joke in the end, though.

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Anime season 27 May 18:22
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

New cutie honey episode got very, very yuri. As yuri as you can get without kissing.

All those death flags for Nat-chan though ;_;

I'm not watching it anymore, nor I plan to. But as far as I know the scene where she dies in the manga is over already, and she lived through it. It would be weird to kill her in another scene when they already avoided it.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

He can say what he wants to help his ego, but truth is that not even Steam is stupid enough to remove a game because of one report. This was either Steam wanting to ban VNs already or some big group mass reporting it.

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Anime season 17 May 11:47
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Either that or making her as a villain, since she's assaulting another girl. Regardless, would people even be happy with that? Wouldn't that be like, really sudden? Like some kind of consolation prize instead of development a couple properly.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Read the first chapter. Had to stop as it's really uncomfortable and I don't recommend it to anyone. The drama is also pretty stupid.

It's hated even in Japan, so I think it'll be axed soon.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Is statutory rape not a thing in Japan? Isn't this girl supposed to be in Middle School?

Fun fact: Child porn was banned in Japan in 2014. They havent fully adjusted to this yet.

fun fact: manga characters aren't actual persons.

It was actual child porn, like, with real children.
Not like it was normal to hold those, it just wasn't a crime. And making child porn was always a crime.

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Anime season 13 May 16:05
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Well, you could always read the events online if you're only interested in the story/characters.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

"ex-het" I really hope it's a joke -.-
a very bad one, indeed.

What is this??? People who exist in madoka's world but or something?

it's from the game Magia Records or something

Her wish to become a mahou shoujo was having courage to confess to the guy she liked.
He rejected her, though.

I'm not talking about her sexuality, tho........
I'm talking about this "people-can-just-turn-cis/straight/LGBT+-at-will" mentality.

Oh yeah. It's probably a joke. The "lez" one too is mainly used for porn genre, and as such, they usually use it to describe perverts.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

"ex-het" I really hope it's a joke -.-
a very bad one, indeed.

What is this??? People who exist in madoka's world but or something?

it's from the game Magia Records or something

Her wish to become a mahou shoujo was having courage to confess to the guy she liked.
He rejected her, though.

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Anime season 12 May 17:02
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

2nd and third season for BangDream omg https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-05-12/bang-dream-anime-gets-2nd-3rd-seasons/.131493 is the first one good at all? I thought back then "I have enough with LL" so I didn't really care

It's good. Has more deep to the story than LL in general. Although I would recommend the game instead. The character writing there is great.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

The curious thing is how Natsuki doesn't even mind two girls dating anymore. The teacher reveal that they're dating was received with just indifference.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Standard is actually 3 to 4 volumes. I don't remember last time something with 2 volumes was announced as an anime.
That does tell they only got it because they wanted to animate something with cheerleaders, though. Like Bland S only receiving anime because they wanted something like Working. So I wouldn't mind much. It wasn't chosen because the manga was popular (no way to know that for sure with two volumes) and it'll probably flop.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Anime when?

They decided to animate a stupid cheerleader series that runs in the same magazine instead, because they hate money. (It'll actually probably end up making them a lot of money because it's cute girls doing cheerleading; I just dislike the series.)

To be fair, Swap Swap anime would need to be made next year, when there will be a forth volume and enough material.
What's the problem with the cheerleading manga? I don't like it already because the author made a "yuri" manga with a pretty shit ending hinting het.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

https://twitter.com/tomekitigai/status/991347150075318272?s=19

Manga is getting a second print, so it's probably selling well.
Anime when?

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Anime season 01 May 17:02
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Hisone to masotan ... I saw the first episode and I understood what you all were talking about, is a bit messy but it was fine for me, but ahmmm that second episode making the mc act more naive than anyone, the other bitch just bitching and bitching during the whole episode (maybe not the whole episode because I just closed the video during the second half), the pervert ... Okada and even the opening (where I saw the others girls who look really lame tbh) yeah I guess this isn't for me after all, the only character I like is the maintenance guy! The others try really hard to not be likeable.

Kyoani did a great job with Kumiko (euphonium) making a very honest girl who speaks her mind... Masotan failed, that's my useless review, just my opinion.

My Hero Academia was super hyped! they're making a great job adapting the manga and making it way more exciting!

Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii had a super hilarious episode 03!

Third episode was worse. Making fun of sexual harassment and power harassment. The guys just shouldered it off as "the previous pilot didn't mind it". There's a talk about sexual harassment in Japan right now after a report was harassed by a politician, so it's really unfortunate. I saw some people complaining about it in japanese on twitter, too.
There are some other annoying implications, like the previous pilot quitting her job after having a child.

And yeah, in general it's just not that good. It's not interesting and the characters are whatever.
Ending is great, though.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

So swapping is the goddess plan.
Just make them feel so used to it and not wanting to stop that they have no other choice but to marry each other.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Is the first year teacher shipping them?

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

But why the studio is not afraid of losing money ? i know that they do receive budget and money from producers. but do they really not care about BD sales at all ? in that sense it means studios can never lose money and always profiting even if the sales were horrible. but then why studios like Mangalobe and Artland went bankrupt with really huge debts? ($2.62 million Artland's debt and 350 million yen Mangalobe's debt) is it the producers fault ?

It's not that they're not afraid of losing money, but they have no money to lose. Of course, they're losing time, and time is money, but they do keep the BD profits to them. So, of course, they care about BD sales, but it's not a critical thing. That's why a lot of studios can't break out of 1k and are still alive and well. Also, studios do not work only on their series. They do a lot of outsourcing, too, so they have other ways to make money.
Thing is, even if sales are low, the studio was contracted to work on that. They did it as they should, so their work is done. They usually don't invest money of their own, or at least not that much money, so the loss isn't that big.
I don't know about Manglobe, but some studios do invest a lot in their projects, like KyoAni, Toei and Bandai Namco. But these are big companies, and they usually own the title.

What did you mean here ? sorry but i really don't know much about those stuff and i'd be glad if you explained more.
Edit: one more question: Why there are some anime that sells horribly, but still manage to get a second season ? what's the explanation for this? it's like why make another season if they didn't profit from the first one, are there money resources other than Blue rays or broadcasting ?

Two example: Flip Flappers and Marchen Madchen.
In Flip Flappers case, 3hz said they did lose money because the committee money wasn't enough. So they put the studio's own money to compensate. That happens because probably no one believed the project that much to invest, and the studio wanted to deliver a good product. I would say that was a smart idea. Now they have PriPri that had Bamco behind and GGO, that it's a big project. Had FliFla quality failed, they probably wouldn't get projects like these.
Marchen Madchen was the opposite. The staff knew they wouldn't be able to do it right. They tried to warn the CEO, but he didn't want to spend more money, so it became a mess, probably hurting the studio's reputation.

The reason why animes that sell bad still get a second season is that someone on the committee is making money with it. Crunchyroll and BilliBilli were on Citrus's committee, for example. Streaming for the series was good, so if Ichijinsha ever wants to make another season (they probably won't), they probably will have those two investments again.
Then we have things like Wixoss. Wixoss keep getting animes even though the BDs don't sell because the card game is their source of money, and the anime keep it relevant. Also, Takara Tomy have a lot of money.

Really, BD are just a good indication because BD is so expensive that if something is selling a lot of BDs, it's probably selling every other merch, too.

last edited at Apr 27, 2018 1:06AM

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I don't think manga sales are an indication for the success of the anime adaptation. Citrus manga sales exceeded one million copies i think and appeared in New York Times best seller manga list five times in 2015 not mention it's huge popularity. yet the anime adaptation didn't sell that much, it didn't sell bad but it was low compared to other anime (check this). and as for popularity it didn't get that much in fact, it did receive a lot of criticism unlike the original work did. well it is to be expected when you expose the work to a wider audience. (you can check the scores and reviews on anime sites)

There's one thing bothering me about that topic. They say as if the studio was afraid of losing money, but the studio most likely didn't lose any money at all. That's just not how the committee system works. If they did invest, it was little, because most of the money comes from the committee, with companies like Crunchyroll, BiliBili and Ichijinsha. And those three are probably pretty happy with the anime, because it was a success of streaming and it helped the magazine. Don't remember who else was in the committee, though.
Does that means that a second season will happens? Not really. Could happen, but we never know. But it was a successful project for the companies involved regardless.

Unless the studio actually put money on it to compensate a weak committee, but I doubt it, since the animation wasn't anything spetacular.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Re:Creators have a really good animation, but it's an action show. YagaKimi needs even less than that. What we need is an atmosphere that fits, and I think Sakurako did that good. Problem with Sakurako was the script not being any special.

Troyca is not a big studio and they contract a lot of freelancer, though, but that's not the point. They clearly are worried about quality given their other projects and I doubt they would approve something bad unless it's an extreme situation.

Fact is that they have only three shows made by them, but all three have some competent animation even though the studio is small. And YagaKimi won't be a hard series to do, since it's pretty slow.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Sakurako's direction is not bad at all, though. Nothing special, but not bad. Can't remember the specifics of the episodes he directed in Re: Creator, but that series in general had a strong direction. Its weak point was the script. So there's not much to worry so far.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

So the company doing it is Troyca, so more knowledgeable people than me, is that a good or bad sign?

They did few shows, but all of them have good production value. Sakurako's Bones, Aldnoah Zero, Re:Creators.
I guess regardless of the budget they're getting, they'll probably try to keep their portfolio good. They also don't get a lot of projects, so they can put effort on this one.

Should we be worried that the script writer for Hibike is writing this script too...?

It's the opposite. He was probably one of the reason why Hibike is gayer than it was supposed to be. He did shows like Love Live, Chuu2 and recently YoriMoi. Most of his shows have some yuri subtext in it, so he probably likes to add it.
He's also an actual good writer, so she should make a good job adapting it.

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Anime season 25 Apr 09:39
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Wtv posted:

But when they call it fanservice for men because it has sex scenes, they're saying women can't like sex.

I was saying it for some time, but apparently there exist distinct "male fanservice" and "female fanservice" that some yuri fans can tell apart and judge if something is pandering to male audience or to "true yuri fans". As if "male fanservice" was inherently incapable of appealing to female audience. I guess in that case I'm a guy, since I don't mind most of that "male fanservice"

There's a difference between male targeted fanservice and female targeted fanservice in anime. Not that one can't enjoy something made to the other, as it always work with any product for a target audience (I'm not a kid and can enjoy Precure, for example), but the difference is there. Problem is that west doesn't seem to realize it.
For example, panty-shot is almost exclusively male-targeted fanservice as is most boob grab jokes. The kind of sexual tension used in Citrus is pretty common in female-targeted smut, though. Take 25-sai no Joshikousei for example. It's the exact same kind of smut as Citrus, even worse on the sexual assault part, and no one tries to defend that it's not for women. But apparently when you put two women in the same kind of story, it magically turn into something for men.

I think the problem of that person on Twitter and some others I saw complaining about the same thing is that this kind of complaint erase the concept that smut for lesbians exists and turns it into porn for men.

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Anime season 25 Apr 08:56
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Yuri Queen posted:

The comment in the Twitter post simply says that they dropped Citrus because they were lied to about it being wholesome. They just wanted a wholesome lesbian show.

Here. They meant they wanted it to be true yuri, not something that has fanservice and parts aimed at male audience wanting to see 2 girls making out. Also I guess that person doesn't like rape in their manga.

Not that I have a problem with it, but both Citrus are true yuri and aimed at a female japanese audience. It's okay to not like it and even complain about it, but maybe they should complain about something the series actually is. Like, complain about sexual assault is completely valid. But when they call it fanservice for men because it has sex scenes, they're saying women can't like sex.

Citrus and NTR are more popular between the female audience of Yuri Hime, not the male.

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Anime season 25 Apr 08:10
Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

So, how gay is this "Liz to Aoi Tori" thing? Is it just yuribait like the thing it's a spin-off of? Someone mentioned it in the Bloom into You anime announcement reddit thread (also, yesssssss) and said something like it was a triumph for the yuri genre (okay, I badly misquoted that, but it's something like that). It's apparently super popular in Japan right now, so I guess it would be a triumph if it actually were... but, yeah, I'm getting myself hyped up over one person's comment. Can anyone else testify that this is all that person claimed it is or is it just the usual subtext?

If the spoilers I saw are true, just standard friendship show with a unsatisfying ending. Not really yuri but not as bait as Hibike because neither girl find boyfriend.
It can actually be annoying depending on how you see it.