Welp only five people got to fill it out but here are the results:

Gender:
2 male
2 female
2 genderqueer

Transgender:
0

Sexuality:
2 gay/lesbian
1 straight
1 bisexual
1 pansexual
1 otherkin

I don't have any info on how these answers intersect, but there's the numbers. Thanks for playing. :P

last edited at Feb 11, 2015 12:13AM

It was all anonymous and the questions were harmless enough, but it is your site.

Cos why not?

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Can't seem to get it to show data to participants after they have completed the survey, but I will post the results to this thread.

last edited at Feb 10, 2015 10:25PM

I don't really care that Sachi cheated with Remi nor do I think Remi is a bad character for being an instigator. I think Remia is a plot device machine. She has no real background, no real character development. If Shuninta wanted her to be the catalyst for everybody getting through their issues (however unrealistic that shit is) then fine, but at least sell me on her. Let me know her background, what made her that way. Give me SOMETHING. Damn.

hating on remi just because she's the one who's openly sexual with everyone(because they didn't have a choice with having sex with remi amirite) and ignoring the fact that she's the only one making literally 90% of the character development happen in this series AND the fact that nobody understands what's happening in ch12

yeah okay i will fight all of you to death to defend best girl remi(╯°□°)ຈ҉̛༽̨҉҉ﾉ̨

That is exactly my point. She is a plot device and serves no other purpose. It is lazy writing. I am disappointed. :/

Shuninta is lazy as fook. Remi is just one rolling plot device after another, she has no back story, no character development, and literally serves no other purpose. We learn that Ruki is a codependent doormat and that Sacchan is straight not through character development, but through the non-entity that is Remi. I agree with the previous poster, either Remi is a succubus or Shuninta really fooked off with this title. LAZY ASS WRITING!!!

last edited at Feb 5, 2015 3:42AM

Well they are supposed to be yandere characters after all. Violence is as natural as breathing to them. Having their object of affection act so sweetly towards them isn't typical for them though. It's more likely to be screams of terror or fearful obedience instead.

TBH I personally think calling them yanderes is totally missing the point. Neither of them show the obsessiveness or crazed possessiveness that marks the classic yandere, to start with. But more importantly, it's clear that both of them are basically the archetype of the highly-trained, hair-trigger assassin type, put in a completely different context (girl-girl romance). All the stuff they do, if you remove the battles, would be out of place in any issue of Yuri Hime or Hirari.

Violence is their language, but to me it's in a much different fashion to a typical yandere.

I personally think the point of this manga as satire, that it uses extreme violence as a juxtaposition for yuri/romance tropes to point out their silliness. When I view it in that light it is friggin HYSTERICAL. i could be off base and over estimating the title, but imma choose to continue to interpret it that way for the lolz. ^_~

last edited at Feb 2, 2015 10:21AM

Can anyone from China explain tattletale to me? Is he like a very ardent communist nationalist? Is that the joke? And if so, is that a common trope?

I don't think it's that the Communist leanings are the joke, so much as the contrasting attitudes expressed by the side character.

The nickname "Tattletale" and the businesslike-appearance suggests a character that is bossy, stuck-up, toadying; a born bureaucrat.

However, the dramatic and romanticized patriotism of protecting the Chinese Communist flag from the rain doesn't immediately fit that fussy image. It's strangely old-fashioned. And as the other characters note by their surprised reactions, it's bizarrely dashing.

Additionally, there's his appearance as a sort of epilogue to the three friends seeing the confession umbrella. As the more "main" characters are still processing the day's events and on getting home, Tattletale skips off in the rain like a dandy.

Effectively, he's a straitlaced-looking individual that is actually surprisingly odd.

I apologize if this is too many words; I think I enjoy over-explaining things.

edit: oh yeah, not from China. But hopefully it was informational.

Yeah, thanks for your interpretation. I would have to say that I do not believe he is skipping off into the rain "like a dandy" it seems more like he is marching into it. Tattletale seems stoic, and carries intense nationalism. Again, I was just wondering if being an ardent nationalist is a common character trope/archtype.

I am Chinese-Cuban and there are many ardent communist nationalists in Cuba. Many.

Also, Nez and Hanna, I appreciate your perspectives. <3

I don't get the whole rape being attractive thing. A woman struggling and saying no is pretty gross/scary.

:D :D In that case I have raped few girls by now (and I am a girl too). :D :D

Girls can rape, you know. It's hardly unheard of.

And given how many people don't seem to understand the concept of consent, and the popular myth that rape involves a scary stranger dragging women into an alley, it's actually possible for people to rape but believe they didn't do anything wrong. So yeah, if you've had sex with someone saying "no" to you, or only saying "yes" because they're really drunk, then you might have.

Now this particular story could be different though, since as has already been mentioned it's customary in Japan, or at least Japanese fiction/porn, to have some token resistance before going ahead with sex. Hell, look at all the stuff that uses "I'm so embarrassed" as a stock phrase to indicate that sex is happening. And of course, the story is already set up as something that doesn't really happen in real life so at least you've got a little separation there.

Well, I sometimes sleep with girls that say no (usually if I know them very well and I am aware that they really want me), but I never sleep with drunk girls who I don't know very well because I don't want them to regret it in the morning. :) And I am also into BDSM and as such a person I am really very careful about consent. :) Because in my heart I am a "gentleman". :D :D And of course I know a girl can rape a girl but I don't think it's very common.

Rape in the queer community is more common than I think you realize.

I think that this notion of "no" being foreplay is a facet of rape culture. Coercing someone (which is what is happening in this manga) is anything but healthy consent. Last I checked Japan was a patriarchal society. Women can and are complicit in their own oppression, it is a component of their oppression. It would not surprise me that women anywhere in the world do say "no" as foreplay, but I do believe it is the duty of partners to have clear consent.

I get that this is fiction, but media matters, as is evidenced by the commenters who do not seem to understand consent. This kind of media reinforces really detrimental stereotypes/behaviours and I personally am tired of seeing this as a trope. And this isn't just a japanese thing, as Hana said, people all over the world definitely believe rape is a violent encounter with a stranger and the majority of the time that is not the case.

last edited at Jan 29, 2015 6:31PM

Tattletale is best character.

Can anyone from China explain tattletale to me? Is he like a very ardent communist nationalist? Is that the joke? And if so, is that a common trope?

Welp, when someone says "no" and you continue, ignoring their protests, that is rape. No means no, and all that.

I don't get the whole rape being attractive thing. A woman struggling and saying no is pretty gross/scary.

Deliciousmell.

And it's less than a day before the new chapter! Sha-ba-da-doo!

What do you think Ran would actually smell like?

Y'all are analyzing why a secondary character can smell Ran. I mean, just take a moment to let that settle in.

I feel like this is brilliant satire; taking typical romantic tropes and putting them in the context of violence to show a bit of their absurdity. Throwing your girlfriend out of a second story building, then complaining you're afraid of hurting her with the smex? Brill. Yes, please. Thank you.

So much this. ^^

It drips with the best kind of satire, and what makes it so damn fun is how endearing the two mains are.

Oh, I agree completely! They are super cute!

I feel like this is brilliant satire; taking typical romantic tropes and putting them in the context of violence to show a bit of their absurdity. Throwing your girlfriend out of a second story building, then complaining you're afraid of hurting her with the smex? Brill. Yes, please. Thank you.

Sigh. My comment is not about being threatened by men, it is socio-political commentary on the portrayal of men and women in media. Capitalist societies (and most societies across the planet) are patriarchies. Men's stories are told with such abundance that we are utterly saturated with whole, multidimensional male characters. Given that that is the case, I do not feel I am losing out by not having male characters in Yuri. Someone said not having males in yuri stories was unrealistic, i merely pointed out that social relations, especially among queers, are often gendered and that it is not uncommon for women to not have very many male friends.

I really do not think these are difficult concepts to grasp, but whatever. I am over the entire conversation.

So, realistically any queer person living in a queer community or simply engaging in queer culture in a major city can easily go through their social lives without having prolonged conversations or meaningful engagement with the opposite sex. I haven't had male friends (much less straight male friends) in nearly a decade, so I do not think an absence of men in yuri manga is unrealistic at all. I also prefer not to have male leads in stories I read because every story in society portrays men as competent people. Women are frequently just damsels or tinsel on the tree. I have been so saturated with the male experience in media that i could easily never experience it again and be no lesser a person for it. I certainly wouldn't be dissatisfied. There are tons of straight male stories out there, if you want to read them feel free.

Although it is wholly possible to live without having any meaningful contact with those of the opposite sex, frankly I think that's unrealistic for your average person, especially if you're a student attending a co-ed school (and let's be real, the majority of universities today are co-ed campuses). You're inevitably going to meet/interact/talk with people of the opposite sex, regardless of your own sex or sexual preferences. If you wanted to live free of interaction with the opposite sex, you would have to make a conscious effort to do so. In a world where statistically a little less than half of the population is male, I'd think that it would be pretty difficult to live without knowing any men. Unless the setting was an all-girls campus, I'd feel that the complete absence of men in the story would be quite unrealistic, especially given that Seol-a is seen as the queen bee of the school.

And it's just like you said, queer people living in queer communities and cities have the opportunity to isolate themselves from those of the opposite sex. However for most people living on our planet, this isn't the typical situation.

Fluttering Feelings takes place in Korea, a place without any particularly flourishing queer communities/cities. What >determines whether the absence of men in a yuri manga/manhwa is unrealistic or not is the premise of the story. For a typical Korean college campus in this day and age, it would be unrealistic to have no male characters at all.

One outlier in a total set doesn't determine the norm. So while it might be normal in your case to not interact with men at all, for a majority of women, that isn't the case.

Except that it is not an "outlier" experience as Nez has illustrated that straight women often also do not have male friends. Social relations are gendered and they can be very much segregated. So this burning desire people have to see more dudes in yuri is something they should examine.

I do not mean to say that women have ZERO contact with men, I am saying (especially in the case of queer women) they often have very little role in their lives outside of casual contacts.

last edited at Jan 22, 2015 12:11PM

when citrus chapters stop being a prime example of how to do yuri drama wrong i will stop referencing it.

I would like to second, third, fourth, holy hallelujah, and amen this sentiment.

As for men being portrayed as dangerous, uh, statistically, the world over, the number one threat to women is violence perpetrated by men.

So, realistically any queer person living in a queer community or simply engaging in queer culture in a major city can easily go through their social lives without having prolonged conversations or meaningful engagement with the opposite sex. I haven't had male friends (much less straight male friends) in nearly a decade, so I do not think an absence of men in yuri manga is unrealistic at all. I also prefer not to have male leads in stories I read because every story in society portrays men as competent people. Women are frequently just damsels or tinsel on the tree. I have been so saturated with the male experience in media that i could easily never experience it again and be no lesser a person for it. I certainly wouldn't be dissatisfied. There are tons of straight male stories out there, if you want to read them feel free.

last edited at Jan 21, 2015 12:56PM

Why would it be nice to think Ran has been waiting lose her virginity to Keiko? That would be hella obsessive and disturbing.

We haven't really gotten into Ran's romantic past (thus her sexuality). I imagine that will come up at some point. I can't see her being a virgin, but I can totally see her never having been in love before.

last edited at Jan 17, 2015 5:21PM

I think y'all have your yuri goggles set to delusional. :P

Sigh. When I saw this update I had a feeling of dread that yuri would never come to fruition with Stretch. I hope I am wrong. I wanna send ex-boy on a rocket out of the damn galaxy. :/